Ticking/clicking noise?

rmorse · August 14th, 2012, 05:33 AM

Hey guys,

What would cause a ticking/clicking/slight rattling noise when the bike is running? Bike has just shy of 15,000 miles. The sound is more prominent at lower RPMS, but that might be just because there is less ambient noise.

Also, seems it only really happens when bike is under load. So, it's pretty bad at lower RPMs and going about 20mph.

I'm about to do an oil change and see if I hear a change.

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 05:54 AM

Valves? They should have been checked and and/or adjusted twice by now with 15k.

rmorse · August 14th, 2012, 06:26 AM

Yea, I was thinking valves too. Previous owner said he checked/adjusted the valves back when he should have. I need to check them soon. Do you think it can wait until winter? Or do I need to spend a weekend and do the whole 15k service soon?

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 06:48 AM

I would say soon but I will also say that I have seen this engine go 40k miles with no adjustment...

Personally I did mine at 10k and I'll look at them again around 20k unless I hear anything unusual.

rmorse · August 14th, 2012, 11:25 AM

Damn man. I just feel like this is going to take forever and be extremely challenging.

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 11:37 AM

I admit the first time is kinda rough. Once you get in there and have a better understanding of what your doing then the stress level comes down. Second time should be breeze. Some of the DIY's I've seen have you taking all kinds of parts off like the radiator and engine mount.... I found that to be unnecessary and time consuming. Take as little off as you need to get your feeler gauge in there.

rmorse · August 14th, 2012, 11:39 AM

Yea....I just don't want to do it either. I'm planning on running it down to the beach not this weekend but next. How bad would it be to put ~500 miles before checking?

This is what I'll probably end up buying:
http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Cams-Valve.../dp/B000WJWTM6

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 11:40 AM

I did my 1st one in about 5 hours but of course I had to stop to get my shims. The trip was probably an hour of that time. With shims in hand and focused on the job at hand, I think it could be done in under 2 hours. Of course your tool selection and your confidence and skill level will be factors. I'm pretty comfortable taking the engine apart.

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 11:43 AM

500 more miles will set the self destruct feature we have off. It will blow it to smithereens.

J/k... it will be fine.

dubojr1 · August 14th, 2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorse

Yea....I just don't want to do it either. I'm planning on running it down to the beach not this weekend but next. How bad would it be to put ~500 miles before checking?

This is what I'll probably end up buying:
http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Cams-Valve.../dp/B000WJWTM6

I considered that until I found out my dealer sells them for $2 a piece. I only ended up needing two shims.

rmorse · August 14th, 2012, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

500 more miles will set the self destruct feature we have off. It will blow it to smithereens.

J/k... it will be fine.

Bahahaha. Good to know. I'll park it and rip it open when I get back from the beach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

I considered that until I found out my dealer sells them for $2 a piece. I only ended up needing two shims.

Legit. I'll call them up and see what's up!

Jiggles · August 14th, 2012, 01:50 PM

Click it or Ticket

abhijitz · August 14th, 2012, 04:20 PM

umm that doesnt sound right. I had a similar sound on my DRZ and it turned out to be a shim split in half. If the bike still runs, stop running it any more. Take the head off and inspect the shims/buckets. (Turn the bucket upside down and notice for visible indention)

Stingray1000 · August 14th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorse

Yea....I just don't want to do it either. I'm planning on running it down to the beach not this weekend but next. How bad would it be to put ~500 miles before checking?

This is what I'll probably end up buying:
http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Cams-Valve.../dp/B000WJWTM6

You going to OC on he 25th? Or Virginia Beach? I'm riding mine down on the 25th to OC, MD

rmorse · August 15th, 2012, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abhijitz

umm that doesnt sound right. I had a similar sound on my DRZ and it turned out to be a shim split in half. If the bike still runs, stop running it any more. Take the head off and inspect the shims/buckets. (Turn the bucket upside down and notice for visible indention)

It's done it for like 500 miles so far, but gotten worse....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

You going to OC on he 25th? Or Virginia Beach? I'm riding mine down on the 25th to OC, MD

Yea man, OC.

In other news, the bike was hard to start yesterday when hot, and popped. It then started right up. New symptom of the valves being off or new issue?

dubojr1 · August 15th, 2012, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorse

In other news, the bike was hard to start yesterday when hot, and popped. It then started right up. New symptom of the valves being off or new issue?

The hard start could be valves as well.

The "pop" can happen to any of us. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...ht=loud+garage

Stingray1000 · August 15th, 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorse

Yea man, OC.
In other news, the bike was hard to start yesterday when hot, and popped. It then started right up. New symptom of the valves being off or new issue?

Dud you might wanna take it to a shop just for a once pver before you make that drive... Meg and I will be down all that week if you wanna hang out at secrets or do some rides down coastal hwy or something.

rmorse · August 15th, 2012, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stingray1000

Dud you might wanna take it to a shop just for a once pver before you make that drive... Meg and I will be down all that week if you wanna hang out at secrets or do some rides down coastal hwy or something.

Yea, but I don't know any legit shops here that I actually trust to know WTF they are doing.....

We'll see on chilling. Probably won't be able to. My brother is in town from Germany, so this is a family get-together at the beach. Haven't seen him in like 2 years, so I'll probably be sticking with them lol.

Stingray1000 · August 15th, 2012, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmorse

Yea, but I don't know any legit shops here that I actually trust to know WTF they are doing.....

We'll see on chilling. Probably won't be able to. My brother is in town from Germany, so this is a family get-together at the beach. Haven't seen him in like 2 years, so I'll probably be sticking with them lol.

Yea we're staying with her whole family too so I understand. But if for one night you and her wanna sneak away and grab a beer with me and Meg you got my number punk lol

August 14th, 2012, 05:33 AM	#1
rmorse ninjette.org guru Name: Bobby Location: Silver Spring, MD Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawi Ninja 250R, 2013 Honda CRF450R, 2008 Honda CRF250R, 2001 Honda XR400 Posts: 301	Ticking/clicking noise? Hey guys, What would cause a ticking/clicking/slight rattling noise when the bike is running? Bike has just shy of 15,000 miles. The sound is more prominent at lower RPMS, but that might be just because there is less ambient noise. Also, seems it only really happens when bike is under load. So, it's pretty bad at lower RPMs and going about 20mph. I'm about to do an oil change and see if I hear a change.

August 14th, 2012, 05:54 AM	#2
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Valves? They should have been checked and and/or adjusted twice by now with 15k. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 14th, 2012, 06:48 AM	#4
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I would say *soon* but I will also say that I have seen this engine go 40k miles with no adjustment... Personally I did mine at 10k and I'll look at them again around 20k unless I hear anything unusual. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 14th, 2012, 11:37 AM	#6
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I admit the first time is kinda rough. Once you get in there and have a better understanding of what your doing then the stress level comes down. Second time should be breeze. Some of the DIY's I've seen have you taking all kinds of parts off like the radiator and engine mount.... I found that to be unnecessary and time consuming. Take as little off as you need to get your feeler gauge in there. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 14th, 2012, 11:40 AM	#8
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I did my 1st one in about 5 hours but of course I had to stop to get my shims. The trip was probably an hour of that time. With shims in hand and focused on the job at hand, I think it could be done in under 2 hours. Of course your tool selection and your confidence and skill level will be factors. I'm pretty comfortable taking the engine apart. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 14th, 2012, 06:26 AM	#3
rmorse ninjette.org guru Name: Bobby Location: Silver Spring, MD Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawi Ninja 250R, 2013 Honda CRF450R, 2008 Honda CRF250R, 2001 Honda XR400 Posts: 301	Yea, I was thinking valves too. Previous owner said he checked/adjusted the valves back when he should have. I need to check them soon. Do you think it can wait until winter? Or do I need to spend a weekend and do the whole 15k service soon?

August 14th, 2012, 11:25 AM	#5
rmorse ninjette.org guru Name: Bobby Location: Silver Spring, MD Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawi Ninja 250R, 2013 Honda CRF450R, 2008 Honda CRF250R, 2001 Honda XR400 Posts: 301	Damn man. I just feel like this is going to take forever and be extremely challenging.

August 14th, 2012, 11:39 AM	#7
rmorse ninjette.org guru Name: Bobby Location: Silver Spring, MD Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawi Ninja 250R, 2013 Honda CRF450R, 2008 Honda CRF250R, 2001 Honda XR400 Posts: 301	Yea....I just don't want to do it either. I'm planning on running it down to the beach not this weekend but next. How bad would it be to put ~500 miles before checking? This is what I'll probably end up buying: http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Cams-Valve.../dp/B000WJWTM6

August 14th, 2012, 11:43 AM	#9
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	500 more miles will set the self destruct feature we have off. It will blow it to smithereens. J/k... it will be fine. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

August 14th, 2012, 01:50 PM	#12
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Click it or Ticket __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

August 14th, 2012, 04:20 PM	#13
abhijitz ninjette.org sage Name: Abhijit Location: San Francisco Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): Many Two Wheels .. Posts: 611	umm that doesnt sound right. I had a similar sound on my DRZ and it turned out to be a shim split in half. If the bike still runs, stop running it any more. Take the head off and inspect the shims/buckets. (Turn the bucket upside down and notice for visible indention) __________________________________________________ [ex-AFM #828 \| SMUSA #828 \| Sponsors : MotionPro \| LeoVince \| Insurrection Racing Gloves \| QstarZ Laptimers + OEM Parts @ 30-40% OFF : Harry @ 1-877-437-1631,17 harry@hondaeasttoledo.com

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