Hi Is the wiki down

[mikedabike64]

when I log onto it I just get index in bold letters with a blank screen thanks

[NevadaWolf]

Alex posted an update here: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...43#post1039843

[Alex]

Looking at it a little more last night, it might be a pretty sizeable problem. Seeing a ton of PHP errors in the logs coming from the wiki calls - it looks like the update to PHP isn't compatible with the (very old) software we are using for the wiki. I need that version of PHP to be able to update the forum software to where it needs to be. No easy reconciliation of this yet, but hoping that I will be able to at least get the content up in another format.

The version of mediawiki we were using is many years back, and it was sadly a matter of time before an issue like this cropped up. I had tried a few years back to update mediawiki, but the bridge to the vbulletin accounts started to fail for any version post 2010 or so.

Stay tuned...

[cookiebug79]

Sad face, as the Wiki is a great resource!

Thanks for the updates! Let us know if we can help somehow!

[akima]

@Alex if you get stuck for ideas a simple solution would be to load up the old site in a vm and save the wiki out to static html files. You can then at least serve up the static wiki.

In the future you could maybe install a new wiki system and let us manually port across the content from the static wiki. If we got one member per wiki page on board then it would be a quick job! Count me in, if you do that.

-Akima

[Alex]

There's no obvious solution at the moment. There is no other wiki system that works with this version of vbulletin at that level of user integration, so it's a false choice of keeping the main site at risk by not updating it, or continuing to update the main site and break the wiki.

The wiki software itself isn't the issue, it's just media-wiki, the same platform that wikipedia runs. The secret sauce here is the linkage to vbulletin accounts. Without that, people would need to log in separately to access/edit the wiki, and then user administration for this site doubles in complexity. mediawiki also has very few tools to manage it compared to forum software (anti-spam measures, anti-bot, user moderation, etc.). That user-linking appears to rely on older features that were supported in PHP, that have been taken out / re-architected in later versions of PHP, due to security concerns. It doesn't appear that I can just suppress the errors, it just won't work without going back to an older PHP version, which puts the main site at risk.

I don't have an abundance of free time at the moment, but the fallback plan is likely something similar to what you suggest. I will try and access the db content one way or another, in order to serve the content up in some static way. But I don't want to even go to that level of work before figuring out how I'd want it to work longer-term.