2010 250r OTD

cmzdmc · July 21st, 2010, 06:49 PM

Well im looking to buy my first bike and went to a couple of dealers looking for a 250r I was quoted $5200 on a red and black SE. Live in socal and i was wondering if this was a good deal

Soujyu · July 21st, 2010, 06:59 PM

You can get it down a bit (but not by that much more). If they can't get you around $5000 or less, walk away.

Edit: Wait, it's the SE.... it may be right on the dot on what oyu can do, but what's stopping you from using the walk away method to get the lower price?

kkim · July 21st, 2010, 07:04 PM

Have you considered buying a used bike instead?

tiggen · July 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM

I watched two new gens (admittedly with some cosmetic issues) got for near wholesale at auction today. This was a wholesale auction, not salvage. The only reason I mention it is because the 250 has consistently gone for 18-30% premium over wholesale since December.

In other words used 250's are a better deal than they have been recently, they are certainly a better deal than new ones.

cmzdmc · July 21st, 2010, 07:45 PM

@soujyu haha so $5000-$5200 is spot on eh? $5000 would be better imo

@kkim i have but its harder for me to finance and im not too sure what a used bike has been through.

kamikaze · July 21st, 2010, 08:19 PM

i just got one for 5200 OTD, but that's CDN (~5k USD)

Reswob · July 21st, 2010, 08:27 PM

$5,200!? Holy crap! I got my '08 for under $4,000 out-the-door, and MSRP was $3,500, and the waiting list was a mile long. The '10 MSRP is $4,000, so I wouldn't pay much over that if I were you.

kamikaze · July 21st, 2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Reswob

$5,200!? Holy crap! I got my '08 for under $4,000 out-the-door, and MSRP was $3,500, and the waiting list was a mile long. The '10 MSRP is $4,000, so I wouldn't pay much over that if I were you.

the MSRP up here is 5k

Reswob · July 21st, 2010, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamikaze

the MSRP up here is 5k

But in CA (where the OP is from) it's 4, so no way he should pay 5,200.

EDIT: unless MSRP of the Kommiefornia emissions bike is $5k?

GeneJunkie · July 21st, 2010, 10:33 PM

Which dealership(s) in So Cali did you go to? The best is to go to different dealerships and get prices, then go back around and try to get them to beat each others prices. I think $5200 out the door is high... actually that is the ideal price that sales guys will probably shoot for. I believe Kawi is still doing rebates so make sure they take that in to account, I think its $300 off. I would say to try to shoot for $4700-$4800.

headshrink · July 22nd, 2010, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneJunkie

Which dealership(s) in So Cali did you go to?

Please don't say Berts.

kkim · July 22nd, 2010, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmzdmc

@kkim i have but its harder for me to finance and im not too sure what a used bike has been through.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50053

TenaciousD · July 22nd, 2010, 05:19 AM

I negotiated on a new 2009 and they started at $5200 OTD. That's $3999 MSRP, tax, tag, title, freight, and dealer prep. So, basically no discount from MSRP. The SE is a couple hundred more, but that is still quite a premium price they are giving you. I got them down to $4500 OTD quite easily. I ended up not taking the deal and buying slightly used.

GeneJunkie · July 22nd, 2010, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

Please don't say Berts.

LOL I was thinking the same thing.

wvninja · July 22nd, 2010, 09:15 AM

my 2010 SE was $4500 taxes and title out the door with 0 miles (they built it out of the crate when I bought it).

Actually my bike was bought at the $4299 msrp and they added taxes, title, and fees and it ended up just under $4500 like $4468 I believe.

Heck I'd sell you mine for $4,500 you just have to come get it

Cab305 · July 22nd, 2010, 09:15 AM

You should be able to get it down, mine was $4300 for a new 2010 3 months ago, out the door in South Florida.

If you can show up with cash, it's a great motivator for sales manager.

cmzdmc · July 22nd, 2010, 12:55 PM

No i didnt go to berts. i went to the dealership in Long beach on cherry and one in whittier....the latter gave me the 5200 for the SE but the one on cherry offered a red 2010 250r with a two bros exuahst for 5700 which i thought was a bit much.

@wvninja but wouldnt it be better if you saw beautiful sunny california?

@kkim thanks for the link i'll look into that

thanks for all the feedback im starting to get a better picture of what i should pay

RaceBikeRentals · July 22nd, 2010, 05:24 PM

Try these guys. They usually have very good pricing:

http://www.otdcyclesports.com

Werehusky · July 24th, 2010, 07:24 PM

You could call around to see if any dealers have 2009s in stock. Or a 2009 with really low miles like less then 100 used.

I got a new 09 for $4000.

Kitdog · July 24th, 2010, 08:07 PM

Yea that sounds way high... I got my 09 in march for around $3500 brand new + costs, came with an Icon stage 2 jacket and Joe rocket gloves. But the dealer I went to here in NM had an 08, 2 09's and 2 10's. shop around and pit one dealer against another.

Werehusky · July 24th, 2010, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitdog

Yea that sounds way high... I got my 09 in march for around $3500 brand new + costs, came with an Icon stage 2 jacket and Joe rocket gloves. But the dealer I went to here in NM had an 08, 2 09's and 2 10's. shop around and pit one dealer against another.

yeah mine was 3800 + costs. Sorta got screwed I guess, but it was the only way to go other than craigslist and I didn't want to go that route. No way I'm just walking around with 3000-3500 grand in cash; even if it's only a mile.

adri99an · July 25th, 2010, 05:35 PM

I've seen a ton on Craigslst....from 3200-4200 used though....not the one you want or the 2010 SE.....Why go new when you can buy used? Cash talks with people...cash doesn't talk much at a Stealership as they know people will pay top $$$ for their bike--because they are "new" with a warranty--makes people feel safe and happy. What's great about Craigslist is that people have done some great mods for you already....of course it is wise to take someone that knows about bikes---maybe hire a mechanic for a bike you are truly interested in...or if you have a friend that knows the ins and outs...the 250 is a strong lil bike that is worth the money....don't let a Stealership rip you off---and Berts--yeah I hate that place!!! I'd get the yellow pages--call around...tell them you are looking for x bike and you want to pay x amount of money....get a name...call another stealership and tell them this guy from x stealership quoted you an OTD price for x amount of dollars.....now...if you have no cash and are going to finance--then the stealership might be your only ticket or take out a small loan and go used.....used will save you big and if it's your 1st bike---it should be used...

July 21st, 2010, 06:49 PM	#1
cmzdmc ninjette.org newbie Name: Chris Location: Downey Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 3	2010 250r OTD Well im looking to buy my first bike and went to a couple of dealers looking for a 250r I was quoted $5200 on a red and black SE. Live in socal and i was wondering if this was a good deal

July 21st, 2010, 06:59 PM	#2
Soujyu ninjette.org sage Name: W Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R (sold), 2012 Tuono V4R Posts: 512	You can get it down a bit (but not by that much more). If they can't get you around $5000 or less, walk away. Edit: Wait, it's the SE.... it may be right on the dot on what oyu can do, but what's stopping you from using the walk away method to get the lower price? __________________________________________________ 2010 Kawasaki Ninja 250R - "Aria" (sold) 2012 Aprilia Tuono V4R - "Perrine" Proof that Harleys and Ninjettes are friendly with each other

July 21st, 2010, 08:27 PM	#7
Reswob ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Richmond VA Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Triumph Bonneville Black Posts: 627	$5,200!? Holy crap! I got my '08 for under $4,000 out-the-door, and MSRP was $3,500, and the waiting list was a mile long. The '10 MSRP is $4,000, so I wouldn't pay much over that if I were you. __________________________________________________ '08 Bonneville Black sold->'08 Ninja 250R \| OES Swingarm Spools \| EBC HH brake pads \| reflector delete \| no-cut brake light modulator \| DIY fender eliminator

July 22nd, 2010, 05:19 AM	#13
TenaciousD ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: Tampa Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 250R Posts: 230	I negotiated on a new 2009 and they started at $5200 OTD. That's $3999 MSRP, tax, tag, title, freight, and dealer prep. So, basically no discount from MSRP. The SE is a couple hundred more, but that is still quite a premium price they are giving you. I got them down to $4500 OTD quite easily. I ended up not taking the deal and buying slightly used. __________________________________________________ Kevin 2009 Ninja 250R

July 22nd, 2010, 09:15 AM	#15
wvninja ninjette.org sage Name: Nate Location: west virginia Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Honda CBR600RR Posts: 633	my 2010 SE was $4500 taxes and title out the door with 0 miles (they built it out of the crate when I bought it). Actually my bike was bought at the $4299 msrp and they added taxes, title, and fees and it ended up just under $4500 like $4468 I believe. Heck I'd sell you mine for $4,500 you just have to come get it __________________________________________________ "Riding a motorcycle is like playing sports, not everyone is cut out for it." - WVNinja

July 21st, 2010, 07:04 PM	#3
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Have you considered buying a used bike instead?

July 21st, 2010, 07:33 PM	#4
tiggen ninjette.org guru Name: John Location: Atlanta Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2003 250 Posts: 333	I watched two new gens (admittedly with some cosmetic issues) got for near wholesale at auction today. This was a wholesale auction, not salvage. The only reason I mention it is because the 250 has consistently gone for 18-30% premium over wholesale since December. In other words used 250's are a better deal than they have been recently, they are certainly a better deal than new ones.

July 21st, 2010, 07:45 PM	#5
cmzdmc ninjette.org newbie Name: Chris Location: Downey Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 3	@soujyu haha so $5000-$5200 is spot on eh? $5000 would be better imo @kkim i have but its harder for me to finance and im not too sure what a used bike has been through.

July 21st, 2010, 08:19 PM	#6
kamikaze ex-ninjette.org guru :o Name: Trevor Location: Barrie, Ontario Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2003 SV1000 S Posts: 475	i just got one for 5200 OTD, but that's CDN (~5k USD)

July 21st, 2010, 10:33 PM	#10
GeneJunkie ninjette.org sage Name: Cindy Location: Wethersfield, CT Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250R Posts: 691	Which dealership(s) in So Cali did you go to? The best is to go to different dealerships and get prices, then go back around and try to get them to beat each others prices. I think $5200 out the door is high... actually that is the ideal price that sales guys will probably shoot for. I believe Kawi is still doing rebates so make sure they take that in to account, I think its $300 off. I would say to try to shoot for $4700-$4800.

July 22nd, 2010, 09:15 AM	#16
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	You should be able to get it down, mine was $4300 for a new 2010 3 months ago, out the door in South Florida. If you can show up with cash, it's a great motivator for sales manager.

July 22nd, 2010, 12:55 PM	#17
cmzdmc ninjette.org newbie Name: Chris Location: Downey Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): None yet Posts: 3	No i didnt go to berts. i went to the dealership in Long beach on cherry and one in whittier....the latter gave me the 5200 for the SE but the one on cherry offered a red 2010 250r with a two bros exuahst for 5700 which i thought was a bit much. @wvninja but wouldnt it be better if you saw beautiful sunny california? @kkim thanks for the link i'll look into that thanks for all the feedback im starting to get a better picture of what i should pay

July 22nd, 2010, 05:24 PM	#18
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Try these guys. They usually have very good pricing: http://www.otdcyclesports.com __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

July 24th, 2010, 07:24 PM	#19
Werehusky ninjette.org member Name: Jon Location: DF to the W Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninjette(sold), 2011 ZX-10r Posts: 66	You could call around to see if any dealers have 2009s in stock. Or a 2009 with really low miles like less then 100 used. I got a new 09 for $4000.

July 24th, 2010, 08:07 PM	#20
Kitdog ninjette.org guru Name: Kit Location: New Mexico Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250r, 1996 Yahmaha YZ 125... Both in Blue the coolest color Posts: 285	Yea that sounds way high... I got my 09 in march for around $3500 brand new + costs, came with an Icon stage 2 jacket and Joe rocket gloves. But the dealer I went to here in NM had an 08, 2 09's and 2 10's. shop around and pit one dealer against another. __________________________________________________ "Well you know, for me, the action IS the juice"

July 25th, 2010, 05:35 PM	#22
adri99an ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Donger Location: So CAL Join Date: Dec 2009 Motorcycle(s): "Is that a Ninjer 1000?" Posts: A lot.	I've seen a ton on Craigslst....from 3200-4200 used though....not the one you want or the 2010 SE.....Why go new when you can buy used? Cash talks with people...cash doesn't talk much at a Stealership as they know people will pay top $$$ for their bike--because they are "new" with a warranty--makes people feel safe and happy. What's great about Craigslist is that people have done some great mods for you already....of course it is wise to take someone that knows about bikes---maybe hire a mechanic for a bike you are truly interested in...or if you have a friend that knows the ins and outs...the 250 is a strong lil bike that is worth the money....don't let a Stealership rip you off---and Berts--yeah I hate that place!!! I'd get the yellow pages--call around...tell them you are looking for x bike and you want to pay x amount of money....get a name...call another stealership and tell them this guy from x stealership quoted you an OTD price for x amount of dollars.....now...if you have no cash and are going to finance--then the stealership might be your only ticket or take out a small loan and go used.....used will save you big and if it's your 1st bike---it should be used...

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