February 29th, 2012, 08:05 PM | #1 |
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Name: Six
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what should i expect... (low/no oil)
So from an oil starved engine what's the worst to xpect... The dealer seys its no point to submit it for warranty fix.. Ok so ill move on.. So I've been told if its oil starved the rod? Bearings might just need to be replaced... Or the worst is the cylinder walls are bad?? Do I need a new engine if the clynders are bad Or??
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February 29th, 2012, 08:08 PM | #2 |
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I think it depends to what extent it was oil starved and for how long. idk though, cant offer much help on this one.
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February 29th, 2012, 08:15 PM | #3 |
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Not sure myself cause the bike had oil in it B4 I took it in ect... The bike began to loose power and when I got it in 1st gear it shut off and could not get it started for about 10 mins it started then I turned around and headed home never got over 35 Mph rode it about mile and pulled over and it died in first again tried starting it and it took bout 5 mins and when it did started to make a loud clacking noise.. Had it towed after that...
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February 29th, 2012, 08:30 PM | #4 |
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Hmmm, doesnt sound like it was ran too long without it, still not good though. Did the oil light not come on???
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February 29th, 2012, 08:30 PM | #5 | |
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February 29th, 2012, 08:36 PM | #6 |
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There is a motor on CL right now I just seen it 350$
let me know if you want me to track it down NEW gen or OLD gen? .> actually I think you could find one a lot closer than ny. |
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February 29th, 2012, 08:37 PM | #7 |
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Only when it stalled the light came on it turned over the next day like nothing with the clacking sound.. Believe me I would have seen the oil light on I rode it six miles b4 the power droped.. It was low on oil ill admit maby just above the lower line in the sight glass... U had to tip the bike a lil more than usually...
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February 29th, 2012, 08:38 PM | #8 |
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Its new 2011 SE
Blah! Klon- where was this?? |
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February 29th, 2012, 08:41 PM | #9 |
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So suprised that it didnt come on sooner
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February 29th, 2012, 08:46 PM | #10 |
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I checked the oil that night after work... there was some in there maby it was .7 low? The dealer sed there was no oil...had my bike over a month now.. Lol..
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February 29th, 2012, 08:51 PM | #11 |
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That just sucks....know how you lost the oil?
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February 29th, 2012, 08:57 PM | #12 |
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Riding like a bat atta hell... Maby 1100 miles since my last change so I'm assuming that and a lil exhaust leak also and I needed a valve adjustment and carbs synced what sucks is I share a ride wit the Ol lady yak yak yak yak blah blah.. Lol
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February 29th, 2012, 09:37 PM | #13 |
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February 29th, 2012, 09:42 PM | #14 |
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Wasn't sure where to post Alex sir..But U are a gentleman and a scholar. This bikes name is Matilda theboxing Kangaroo! Ill keep yal aprised 'I'm sure...
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March 5th, 2012, 05:13 PM | #15 |
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@sixer
I'd say that the oil leak is possibly covered by warranty, as long as it was sudden. Mine was WAY past due for service and it never l;eaked or burned oil. The thing is, it always comes on when it stalls, so I don't think it activated late either. |
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March 5th, 2012, 05:34 PM | #16 |
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I'm trying to find out how you lost that much oil on a new bike. You should be able to go thousands of miles without burning a large amount of oil. Or really even a noticeable amount of oil. Especially if you are running synthetic oil.
As for the losing power and clacking... Sounds like you overheated the engine where the pistons seized in the cylinders and spun a bearing. If that is the case the motor is toast. I say this because it will definitely need new rod bearings. Because the pistons seized you will probably need new rings, a cylinder hone, new pistons (for the bigger cylinders) and new rods (from the stress of stopping). You could get by with just replacing the rod bearings but by the time it is all said and done it is probably less expensive just to buy a new motor and send me your old motor. :-) |
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March 5th, 2012, 05:58 PM | #17 |
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I'm going to add my 2cents but I'll start by saying I'm by no means a mechanic. On the other hand I'd also like to think I'm not a total idiot either.
Something doesn't add up to me. First you say the oil was low but above the fill line. 'Low oil' doesn't mean 'no oil'. Not to mention the light didn't come on. Yes lights can fail and you shouldn't rely on it but you also had the oil changed not that long ago. The issue to me is 'did the engine fail because it had no oil' or 'did it have no oil because the engine was failing'. With the information you've given, low oil, recent service, I'd speculate that the engine had a problem first. I'd push a little harder for warranty on this.
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March 5th, 2012, 05:59 PM | #18 |
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Sorry to hear that. I hope it's not as bad as it sounds.
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March 5th, 2012, 06:19 PM | #19 |
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Start looking for a used motor to put in. Running an engine without oil to the point of seizure generally damages so many things that the cost of parts to rebuild it exceeds that of a replacement motor.
At a minimum, to rebuild that motor you're looking at pistons, rings, possible cylinder head if warped, rods, bearings, crank, and oil pump. That's assuming the cylinder bores are salvageable. |
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March 5th, 2012, 07:18 PM | #20 |
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Yeah did my research a lot to rebuild so yeah I'm lookin for a used motor dealer drugg ass 5 weeks to tell me well submit it if u want- lol that's what I wanted so I paid their labor fee and took my bike I'm be removing the engine this week end...
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March 5th, 2012, 07:20 PM | #21 |
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The dealer said it had 400 cc of oil..
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March 8th, 2012, 07:34 PM | #22 |
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So today I thought I'd tighten my engine cover Lol snapped one of the four bolts - shrug - a mechanic I know has an engine for sale doesn't know the milliage but said it ran and was making noise but doesn't know whuts wrong wit it.. For 100$ - wondering if I should buy it tomorro and open both motors or save up fer a real engine
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