Bike won't start, and what do these wires go to?

CynicalC · May 7th, 2011, 08:26 PM

96 250 won't start. Got the bike without it running, it sat for ages with no love. Cleaned carbs, new gas tank + battery. Go to start it and nothing even clicks. (ignition on, in neutral, switch in run, etc) Any ideas?

Alex · May 7th, 2011, 08:40 PM

Those are the accessory wires. They aren't supposed to be connected to anything until you choose to use them for a GPS or another small electrical accessory or hookup.

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crazymater91 · May 7th, 2011, 08:55 PM

My 94 when I first got it had the same problem seeing that you said you started it guess you mean by crossing it ...... there's a brass plate behind the push starting button that probably needs to be cleaned ...but if you take that side apart where that button is there's a spring there with that plate that don't need to be lost

crazymater91 · May 7th, 2011, 08:57 PM

Opps sorry I miss read. Did you try starting it by crossing the starter relay

CynicalC · May 7th, 2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymater91

Opps sorry I miss read. Did you try starting it by crossing the starter relay

Nope. I've done it on cars but im not familiar with the bike yet. I'll give it a shot.

CynicalC · May 7th, 2011, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Those are the accessory wires. They aren't supposed to be connected to anything until you choose to use them for a GPS or another small electrical accessory or hookup.

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Thanks! It was driving me nuts trying to remember what I unplugged.

crazymater91 · May 8th, 2011, 08:31 AM

Its basically. The same thing as a car that relay is under the right side cover

CynicalC · May 8th, 2011, 09:18 AM

Yeah I saw it there, it just didn't occur to me to jump it with a screwdriver. I might even have a spare solenoid if it seems that's the problem. I'll report back.

DaBlue1 · May 8th, 2011, 09:49 AM

The other wires towards the front of the bike look like wires for the horn. Also if nothing clicks or comes on check the fuses.

Jojah17 · May 8th, 2011, 11:47 AM

I'd also check fuses. Are you sure battery is good? Have you tried jumping it?

CynicalC · May 8th, 2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaBlue1

The other wires towards the front of the bike look like wires for the horn. Also if nothing clicks or comes on check the fuses.

Yeah figured out the wires. Remembered I unplugged the horn. Fuses are all good, it's probably the starter button or the solenoid. Leaning towards the button since there's no click or anything, but I'll check it out later.

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Originally Posted by Jojah17

I'd also check fuses. Are you sure battery is good? Have you tried jumping it?

Brand new battery and I put the electrolytes in about 10 minutes before putting it on the bike. So it should have at least a 70% charge or so. The gauges light up and it should at least try to turn over if nothing else...

Jojah17 · May 8th, 2011, 12:22 PM

Sorry, didn't know the gauges were functional. Have you tried roll-starting it?

CynicalC · May 8th, 2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jojah17

Sorry, didn't know the gauges were functional. Have you tried roll-starting it?

Yeah and the rear wheel just locks up. I don't think it's seized, they're just very old and flat tires.

CynicalC · May 8th, 2011, 03:46 PM

Ok update, jumping the solenoid got it to turn over plenty, bike still wouldn't start or even sputter though. Turned it over for about a minute. So I'm guessing either fuel or spark problem. The carbs and fuel lines were completely dry since I just replaced the tank and cleaned the carbs. Does the bike need to be primed somehow? Or should it have started after cranking for so long?

CynicalC · May 8th, 2011, 07:51 PM

Any takers?

crazymater91 · May 8th, 2011, 11:20 PM

Make sure your giting fuel to your carbs as far as priming no it don't need to be

nickadolph · May 9th, 2011, 04:47 AM

You should set the fuel petcock to prime to fill the carbs. I think the only problem right now is that your trying to start it dry.

crazymater91 · May 9th, 2011, 10:20 AM

Also make sure your petcock is opening and allowing fuel to go through

CynicalC · May 9th, 2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nickadolph

You should set the fuel petcock to prime to fill the carbs. I think the only problem right now is that your trying to start it dry.

I don't think there is a prime. It's on, off and reserve.

crazymater91 · May 9th, 2011, 02:54 PM

The. Ninja 250 don't have one that I know of

CynicalC · May 9th, 2011, 03:22 PM

I'll get over there later to take the switch apart and clean it. Also see if I have spark, and see if there's fuel getting to the carbs. I also ordered new ngk plugs from kragen so they'll be in tomorrow. Getting there :/

nickadolph · May 10th, 2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymater91

The. Ninja 250 don't have one that I know of

Sorry missed that your not a 2008+ model.

May 7th, 2011, 08:26 PM	#1
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Bike won't start, and what do these wires go to? 96 250 won't start. Got the bike without it running, it sat for ages with no love. Cleaned carbs, new gas tank + battery. Go to start it and nothing even clicks. (ignition on, in neutral, switch in run, etc) Any ideas? Last futzed with by CynicalC; May 9th, 2011 at 12:57 PM.

May 7th, 2011, 08:40 PM	#2
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May 7th, 2011, 08:55 PM	#3
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	My 94 when I first got it had the same problem seeing that you said you started it guess you mean by crossing it ...... there's a brass plate behind the push starting button that probably needs to be cleaned ...but if you take that side apart where that button is there's a spring there with that plate that don't need to be lost

May 7th, 2011, 08:57 PM	#4
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	Opps sorry I miss read. Did you try starting it by crossing the starter relay

May 8th, 2011, 08:31 AM	#7
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	Its basically. The same thing as a car that relay is under the right side cover

May 8th, 2011, 09:18 AM	#8
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Yeah I saw it there, it just didn't occur to me to jump it with a screwdriver. I might even have a spare solenoid if it seems that's the problem. I'll report back.

May 8th, 2011, 09:49 AM	#9
DaBlue1 Long Time Rider Name: Blue Location: Charlotte, NC Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	The other wires towards the front of the bike look like wires for the horn. Also if nothing clicks or comes on check the fuses.

May 8th, 2011, 11:47 AM	#10
Jojah17 ninjette.org member Name: Ben Location: Atlanta Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Honja Posts: 171	I'd also check fuses. Are you sure battery is good? Have you tried jumping it?

May 8th, 2011, 12:22 PM	#12
Jojah17 ninjette.org member Name: Ben Location: Atlanta Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Honja Posts: 171	Sorry, didn't know the gauges were functional. Have you tried roll-starting it?

May 8th, 2011, 03:46 PM	#14
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Ok update, jumping the solenoid got it to turn over plenty, bike still wouldn't start or even sputter though. Turned it over for about a minute. So I'm guessing either fuel or spark problem. The carbs and fuel lines were completely dry since I just replaced the tank and cleaned the carbs. Does the bike need to be primed somehow? Or should it have started after cranking for so long?

May 8th, 2011, 07:51 PM	#15
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Any takers?

May 8th, 2011, 11:20 PM	#16
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	Make sure your giting fuel to your carbs as far as priming no it don't need to be

May 9th, 2011, 04:47 AM	#17
nickadolph ninjette.org member Name: nick Location: Twin Cities, MN Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250 Posts: 168	You should set the fuel petcock to prime to fill the carbs. I think the only problem right now is that your trying to start it dry.

May 9th, 2011, 10:20 AM	#18
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	Also make sure your petcock is opening and allowing fuel to go through

May 9th, 2011, 02:54 PM	#20
crazymater91 ninjette.org member Name: Marcus Location: brooksville Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1994 kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 54	The. Ninja 250 don't have one that I know of

May 9th, 2011, 03:22 PM	#21
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	I'll get over there later to take the switch apart and clean it. Also see if I have spark, and see if there's fuel getting to the carbs. I also ordered new ngk plugs from kragen so they'll be in tomorrow. Getting there :/