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Old January 2nd, 2009, 07:22 PM   #1
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koso gauges in action

fancy koso gauges in action right here.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 07:29 PM   #2
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Nice! Here's another one:

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Old January 2nd, 2009, 09:37 PM   #3
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great, something else for my 'I want it" list!
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:07 AM   #4
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Whoever gets one first, PLEASE do a detailed pictorial DIY!!!!
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Old January 5th, 2009, 07:20 AM   #5
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Hi all,

These were real easy to install though I am an electronics tech so I know my way around a circuit diagram. Hardest bit was taking off the fairings (was the first time I'd taken it all off) and finding somewhere to mount it.

If anyone wants more details send me a PM with questions / requests and I'll do my best to help out. Unfortunatly I was in such a rush to get them installed I'd forgotten to take pics and do up a DIY while I was doing it.

All up took me just under a day to get it done, with a trip to the hardware store as well, so could have been quicker.

Oh, I still have to fill that gap as well. I'm progressing from planning to trying a few different ideas though so hopefully it will not be too much longer and I'll have the finished product..
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:51 PM   #6
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Old January 15th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #7
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Could you post pics of how it is mounted?
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Old January 16th, 2009, 04:38 AM   #8
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Sure thing,

I'll try to get some tomorrow, hopefully I'll be able to get the camera at a good angle.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #9
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I want a set of these.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #10
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Hi Heatshrink & all,

Finally managed to get a pretty poor picture of the gauge mounted. It's pretty tight in there so camera had trouble but you sort of can make it out..

Foam in a temporary thing to fill the gap. I have to make time to finish it off but been very busy lately..
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Old January 30th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #11
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man those gauges look SWEET. The ONE thing I would change about the 250R is to have digital instruments! That would make things perfect. Someone do a DIY guide!!
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 07:37 AM   #12
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The gap

Update. The gap has been filled. (1st attempt)

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Could still use some work but still better than the gap.

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Old April 3rd, 2009, 07:52 AM   #13
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How does the gear indicator work? Is there an external sensor for it? or does it calculate using the speedometer, and rpm?
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 09:09 AM   #14
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I like.

Not a project I'm likely to tackle but it looks good.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 03:15 PM   #15
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How does the gear indicator work? Is there an external sensor for it? or does it calculate using the speedometer, and rpm?
Takes a signal from the speed sensor (has to be electronic but that was converted for the gauge anyway) and RPM and depending on the ratio tells you which gear you're in. There is a programming sequence in the installation where you program the different ratios for each gear. Pretty easy, just press a recessed button on the rear of unit, set number of gears, then drive in each till it learns.

I've found it not too be 100% accurate. I'm not sure if it's because the gears are so close together but sometimes it shows the wrong one. The ratio between 3/4 and 5/6 must be pretty close and it gets confused.
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Old April 4th, 2009, 10:54 PM   #16
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wow this is pretty cool
not sure if I'd spend the time and money on it though... unless there's a great DIY posted about it
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Old April 7th, 2009, 07:35 AM   #17
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does anyone know if these guages have gotten any cheaper... i know a while ago it was like 300 something bucks and thats just money i dont think im willing to put into the bike like that... but we'll see i might want to later...
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Old May 5th, 2009, 09:44 PM   #18
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ok so i was thinking is it possible to put like zx6r gauge cluster or another kawi cluster in it instead of putting in koso gauges b/c i know i can get zx6r clusters for like 100$ on ebay ..just wondering anyone has ideas??
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Old May 10th, 2009, 03:56 PM   #19
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I have the KOSO Rx2 dash.And an Air fuel ratio gauge mounted on my 2008 ninja 250.
So far it is a very nice unit with clock temp and gas gauge all together .
The speedometer is off by less than 1% at 100 mph . measured at Maxton and at Capital Race way In Crofton Md. That is nice . The tack is easy to read at night.

I used the power test feature to run 1/4 mile times . The race track was basically the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5nb7edFT1M

If anyone want to do this mod . I have the wiring stuff figured out . Just PM me.

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Old May 10th, 2009, 06:14 PM   #20
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and I am sure 6R gauges can be modified to work, hell anything can be modified to work. its called a soldering iron, schematic, and lots and lots of paitence. is it worth it - thats a personal choice. remember to take into account the different engine configuration though for the electronic tachometer signal if you use a i4 cluster
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The koso dash is a piece of cake to install .You can choose any engine 1-12 cyl 2or 4 stroke The instructions are great and the great selection of accessories like water and oil temp senders and speedo pick ups. You can select temp or fuel level . time or temp and where they display . When I ride to work I have a clock and fuel is in the middle.At the track I have water temp in the middle and oil temp above the speed. You can also pick the back ground color from 7 choice colors also.

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Old May 16th, 2009, 10:23 AM   #23
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Do you have to hack-up the inner faring?
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No you don't have to cut any of the body.
I made a panel and it just bolts on . I did have to cut my wiring harness off the stock gauge cluster . I can always buy one on EBay. but that is the only thing I had to do that is not reversible.(I could just splice it back I guess.)

One other thing is that the odometer is not settable . It starts at 0 and remembers the distance if you disconnect the battery . But it has two trip meters and all that . I installed mine with 2500 miles so I can just do the math . I will never sell this bike. so it is no big deal now.
And the clock is in 24 hour time . I don't mind it but some people do .
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Looks awesome, but is that a AM air fuel gauge? That thing is totally useless... better an analog fuel gauge (unless you want the fuel gauge in the digital display).

It really makes the bike look 'spensive though.. nice work!
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Air fuel ratio gauge

I had this thing laying around so I stuck it in . It is useless. I had to make the panel and I had to weld in an O2 sensor bung for a real gauge .I am going to get one with data recording. can use it to get the jetting right . But in the meantime this is a useless blinking light .
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that is a nice setup.. is that the LM-1? I was going to get that for one of my cars....

Do you think that you need a WB to tune your 250? Sorry.. I'm not familiar with your mods...
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I need it to tune my bike for a one mile long run at Maxton.I cant afford to go to a dyno. I have tried to use the one I have but I cant even remember to look at it .. That is why I need data logging.
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i was installing the gauges and when i was looking around for my wiring diagram for the bike it was gone (my roommate thought it was just a piece of paper ugh) now i got a gauge less bike, i dont know what wiring to connect to what does anyone have a wiring diagram for the 08 250 help!!!!
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Are you installing a koso Rx2? And are you using the wires from the back of the stock dash? If so this is the wires


Dash----------------------------------------- Bike
Fuel green ...........................................Lg/BK
oil light - grey..............................................Bl/R
High beam - Yello.........................................R/Bk
L turn + orange...........................................G
R turn + Blue ..............................................Gy
Neutral - White .............................................LG

ground -Black ...............................................G Bk/Y?
battery Red + .............................................R/BL?
Key Brown + ................................................Br?
tach brown ..................................................Bk?

I am pretty sure about the last four my notes are not clear. If this dose not work let me know.
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Are you installing a koso Rx2? And are you using the wires from the back of the stock dash? If so this is the wires


Dash----------------------------------------- Bike
Fuel green ...........................................Lg/BK
oil light - grey..............................................Bl/R
High beam - Yello.........................................R/Bk
L turn + orange...........................................G
R turn + Blue ..............................................Gy
Neutral - White .............................................LG

ground -Black ...............................................G Bk/Y?
battery Red + .............................................R/BL?
Key Brown + ................................................Br?
tach brown ..................................................Bk?

I am pretty sure about the last four my notes are not clear. If this dose not work let me know.
Looks pretty much what I had, only think that looks different may be the oil light feed..
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thanks thats helps a lot, im not sure which one is the oil light b/c when i hooked up everything the oil light came on when i switched on the highbeam instead of the highbeam signal, so im still getting the oil figured out. also which one does the purple on connect to? also for some reason the rpm meter isnt working i used the connection that goes into the positive electrode, im pretty sure i hooked it up right but im gonna mess with it today and ill let you know how it goes
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thanks thats helps a lot, im not sure which one is the oil light b/c when i hooked up everything the oil light came on when i switched on the highbeam instead of the highbeam signal, so im still getting the oil figured out. also which one does the purple on connect to? also for some reason the rpm meter isnt working i used the connection that goes into the positive electrode, im pretty sure i hooked it up right but im gonna mess with it today and ill let you know how it goes
Purple one doesn't go anywhere. It's the engine warning light that the bikes with computers have. If you had the FI Ninja it would work I guess though..
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Temp Sensor

Well I just purchased my first bike a Suzuki SV650S and it came with the Koso RX2 gauges. The problem is that the other guy had them installed some time back and never used the bike until I purchased it. I just noticed that the temp sensor is not hooked up to the gauge because it always reads 32 degrees. The temp sensor on the bike only has one black green cable, I tried hooking that up to the gauge but it either reades 240 or back to 32 if I switch the cables around. I think the gauge came with a diffrent sensor, is this the issue? Where can I get the sensor for that gauge?

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Well I just purchased my first bike a Suzuki SV650S and it came with the Koso RX2 gauges. The problem is that the other guy had them installed some time back and never used the bike until I purchased it. I just noticed that the temp sensor is not hooked up to the gauge because it always reads 32 degrees. The temp sensor on the bike only has one black green cable, I tried hooking that up to the gauge but it either reades 240 or back to 32 if I switch the cables around. I think the gauge came with a diffrent sensor, is this the issue? Where can I get the sensor for that gauge?

Thanks for the help I noticed this is a Ninja forum hopefully I wont get kicked out, please help
The temp sensors are run on separate wires that plug into the gauge like the speedo pick up but with two pins instead of three. You can get the sensor to screw into your drain plug so it reads oil temp. And they have a hose connection that a water temp sensor screws into .

This is a link to the manufacturer. they have a shopping cart so I guess you can purchase from them but have not tried . Feel free to ask any questions or PM me I don't have a Suzuki wiring diagram but I have all the KOSO stuff.

http://www.kosonorthamerica.com/
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So what your are saying is that the stock temp sensor on my bike will not work with the Koso gauge? I guess the Koso gauge originaly came with a temp sensor which replaced the stock sensor, right?
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Yep the sensor for the koso gauge is special . For the water you order the hose adapter according to the size of your hose and there is a sensor for that adapter. For the oil temp you replace the drain plug .You order either a special bolt the water sensor fits into .Or buy the sensor that replaces the drain plug all together. The drain plug for a 250 ninja is 14x1.50 . That is the bolt size. the part number from KOSO is like **14150
So you will know if it is the right size.
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Go it, so I figured out the sensor I need, its p/n BF100100. But turns out KOSO is out of stock and it wont be months till they get new ones. They suck!!!! I can buy an adaptor but its a little more trouble to install it I just need to figure out my hose size. Hey you dont happend to have that particular sensor that you can sell me or would know where else I can get one?

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