Don't mess with cagers!!!

[Z300]

Link to original page on YouTube.
Watch out for people like him when riding!!!

Don't start fights with cagers :3

Stay SAFE!

[Racer x]

If he would have jumped on my hood . I would have floored it streight into the other truck. Then held my foot on the gas. Pushing his truck down the road with him traped between the two trucks.Then just told the police my foot slipped off the break in all the excitement.

[Motofool]

This guy missed the opportunity of having a good fight and less damage to both vehicles.

Running away like that encouraged the other guy even more and created a lot of really dangerous traffic situations.

Avoiding confrontations is OK, but this guy went too far in my opinion.

From "Proficient Motorcycling":

[Peanut_EOD]

He should have played dead. Running made the other guy think he was a food source and pursue him.

[lgk]

honestly, i would have just shot him when he attacked my window.

endangering the public with a car chase is unnecessary..

[bdavison]

I agree...first time that guy got out of his truck and came running towards me, I would have dropped him right there in the road with two .45 holes in him.

[slowninja]

His comment at towards the end "how do you deal with someone who tries to kill you" here's my reply...with all that on video, I'll try to kill him first, at the point it's self-defense! Everything goes!

[lgk]

Originally Posted by slowninja

His comment at towards the end "how do you deal with someone who tries to kill you" here's my reply...with all that on video, I'll try to kill him first, at the point it's self-defense! Everything goes!

foreign countries don't always support self defense like the US does.
What happens is you second guess your actions. Since your not legally protected...

Thats why the guy tried to escape instead of fight or run the perp over.

Its not that he was a coward, he just had too much to lose.
In the US you could have defended yourself even without the video as evidence.
And not have gotten charged.

[Z300]

Originally Posted by lgk

honestly, i would have just shot him when he attacked my window.

endangering the public with a car chase is unnecessary..

Originally Posted by bdavison

I agree...first time that guy got out of his truck and came running towards me, I would have dropped him right there in the road with two .45 holes in him.

In Australia guns are a nono, so it's unlikely any one would have guns freely

[akima]

Seriously mental guy. Terrifying situation.

[Aggrotech]

Simple solution.

Step out of your vehicle, let the crazed, pathetic man charge at you and when he gets close, shoot him. While hes sitting there crying call the cops.

Simple solution.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by ninja yas

In Australia guns are a nono, so it's unlikely any one would have guns freely

thats why i'm glad to be in the USA.

i would still love to visit Australia for a short period of time though.
just have to watch my back more diligently, is all.

[bbonds007]

Originally Posted by Aggrotech

Simple solution.

Step out of your vehicle, let the crazed, pathetic man charge at you and when he gets close, shoot him. While hes sitting there crying call the cops.

Simple solution.

That sure worked well for Zimmerman .

*Not sure if the gun posts are serious, but if you shoot someone, even in the US, you are going to have a bad time. Unless you have concrete evidence, like this guy's video cam.

[lgk]

That was different, there was a pursuit, and zimmerman exited his vehicle.

In this case, it was broad day light, man tried to trap victim, commit assault multiple times, there were witnesses, etc.

Totally different scenario.

And yes i am dead serious

[cuz]

wow

[lgk]

Originally Posted by cuz

wow

amazed me too.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by ninja yas

In Australia guns are a nono, so it's unlikely any one would have guns freely

Doing some quick research, seems like Australian officers cant carry any duty equipment when off duty...

Even if the perp actually was able to trap and disable an off duty policemans vehicle it would have still ended in HTH.

Seems odd to me, since most police carry a firearm and flex cuffs off duty here.

[Aggrotech]

Originally Posted by bbonds007

That sure worked well for Zimmerman .

*Not sure if the gun posts are serious, but if you shoot someone, even in the US, you are going to have a bad time. Unless you have concrete evidence, like this guy's video cam.

All you need is witnesses brah. But srs, just make sure you got ur gopros on everywhere and especially wichever cam you have on ur helmet, that way you have clear and perfect evidence of every action taking place. The dude charging, yelling at you, threatening you and you pulling out the gun and droppin his sorry ass.


I have no remorse or sympathy for anyone who tries to harm me or the people i care about so it'd be an easy decision tbh.

[Mehbs300]

This happened about an hour from my place. What a lunatic.
But yeah very few Auzzies have firearms. If I decided I wanted a gun today by the time you go through the paperwork and get approved for a gun licence then you need to go through another round of paperwork and forms to acquire a firearm. Can take 6 months to a year before you can actually pick up your gun. Even then no one is allowed a fully automatic wepons, and there are very strict rules and regulations regarding storage, when and where you can use it etc.

I recon Americas gun laws are ridiculous and backward.

[skilletmo]

Here we see a zebra being chased by mufasa.

[Z300]

Originally Posted by lgk

thats why i'm glad to be in the USA.

i would still love to visit Australia for a short period of time though.
just have to watch my back more diligently, is all.

Lol Australia is nothing like that so nice to live in

+ Year round riding weather

[Racer x]

Just don't touch anything. Or it is poisonous and bites.

[Z300]

Originally Posted by Racer x

Just don't touch anything. Or it is poisonous and bites.

is that really what people think lul, ps we don't ride kangaroos either :3

[dfox]

I would LOVE to know what instigated this. Sure, some people are just crazy, but the guy driving the tan truck obviously had done something to piss the guy off. Did he do a hit-and-run and not know it? did he pull out in front of the guy and almost cause an accident? not enough info in this video to know.

I've had one person basically run me off the road on my bike. Thankfully I was in an urban environment, and just swerved through some cars and took off. That's another thing that makes me scared to drive such an underpowered motorcycle on the road. A civic could run you down in an event like this.

sounds like there's a lot of miss-information about the proper and legal use of a firearm in self defense. The scary thing, is it sounds like most of you are gun owners. I'm sure a lot of it is just macho man posturing, but there's some truth to your insane comments about shooting someone who is approaching your vehicle. Before you start carrying a weapon on your bike or in your car, I would recommend you refresh your knowledge of proper gun handling, before you end up slapped with a felony for showing a gun to an off-duty police officer.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Mehbs300

This happened about an hour from my place. What a lunatic.

if he actually was successful in trapping the victims car he wouldn't he alive to talk about it.
but even if the victim did have a gun legally and used it to defend himself, he would still face litigation...

its not only the gun that makes a difference the legal system has to support you action as well.

Originally Posted by Mehbs300

I recon Americas gun laws are ridiculous and backward.

i think the correct words are balanced and realistic.

our laws promote self defense and provide clear direction on when deadly force is appropriate. the laws also protect the ownership of firearms and other tools for personal carry, defense, and practice.

to me its ridiculous that laws are so strict even an off duty policemen can't carry his duty gear in case he needs to respond.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by ninja yas

is that really what people think lul, ps we don't ride kangaroos either :3

well thats disappointing, it was supposed to be the highlight of my trip.

don't tell me they quit having kangaroo boxing matches...

[lgk]

Originally Posted by dfox

I would LOVE to know what instigated this. Sure, some people are just crazy, but the guy driving the tan truck obviously had done something to piss the guy off. Did he do a hit-and-run and not know it? did he pull out in front of the guy and almost cause an accident? not enough info in this video to know.

maybe the guy looked at him wrong...
honestly i think you can throw any justification out the window, when you saw him jump on the hood and start pounding the windshield like a zombie from Dawn of the Dead(2004)...

Originally Posted by dfox

I've had one person basically run me off the road on my bike.

was he actively doing it? or did he just not see you.

i had a couple instances where they just didn't see me, and i just avoided them.

then i had a person repeatedly cut me off for enjoyment, i just slowed down and pulled over. they just sped off afterwards. if they made a u turn and got out of their vehicle it would have been real ugly...

Originally Posted by dfox

before you end up slapped with a felony for showing a gun to an off-duty police officer

around here brandishing a firearm is a misdemeanor, but check your local laws they vary from state to state and sometimes county to county.

off duty officers only respond to certain situations, and are trained to identify themselves in a secure/safe manner, not aggressively. if they are found to be too aggressive when off duty they are placed in remedial training.

i doubt anybody here would actually encounter an off duty cop aggressively assaulting their vehicle with no badge and an unmarked vehicle.

[Z300]

Originally Posted by lgk

well thats disappointing, it was supposed to be the highlight of my trip.

don't tell me they quit having kangaroo boxing matches...

lol

[Racer x]

The jumping jack ants will kill you the caine toads Will kill you the brown snake and six others are the most poisonous on earth. Don't even thi k about swimming. Sharks in the ocean and crocks on land. Then you have the baby eating dingos. And recluse spiders. I did not even think about being punched by a kangaroo. What else? Crazy drivers also?

[dfox]

Originally Posted by lgk

was he actively doing it? or did he just not see you.

actively... yelling out the window. All because I went around him, in a legal passing lane, because he was traveling slower than the speed limit. the passenger in his car looked totally embarrassed.

Originally Posted by lgk

around here brandishing a firearm is a misdemeanor, but check your local laws they vary from state to state and sometimes county to county.

off duty officers only respond to certain situations, and are trained to identify themselves in a secure/safe manner, not aggressively. if they are found to be too aggressive when off duty they are placed in remedial training.

i doubt anybody here would actually encounter an off duty cop aggressively assaulting their vehicle with no badge and an unmarked vehicle.

an off-duty officer doesn't have to be aggressive towards you to be sitting in a car next to you when you flash a gun at someone else.

laws regarding brandishing a weapon vary from place to place, agreed. Either way, unless you're in immediate danger, it's illegal. There have been many cases where people are charged with brandishing a weapon in road rage situations.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Racer x

The jumping jack ants will kill you the caine toads Will kill you the brown snake and six others are the most poisonous on earth. Don't even thi k about swimming. Sharks in the ocean and crocks on land. Then you have the baby eating dingos. And recluse spiders. I did not even think about being punched by a kangaroo. What else? Crazy drivers also?

so any living being and plant can kill or maim you,
not carrying a gun seems even crazier to me now, lol.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by dfox

actively... yelling out the window. All because I went around him, in a legal passing lane, because he was traveling slower than the speed limit. the passenger in his car looked totally embarrassed.

idk about yelling it just makes me laugh.

if he was driving slow i would have just sped off like you did.
but when he matches your speed repeatably trying to hit you then you need to stop and either call the cops, prepare to defend yourself, or both.

Originally Posted by dfox

an off-duty officer doesn't have to be aggressive towards you to be sitting in a car next to you when you flash a gun at someone else.

laws regarding brandishing a weapon vary from place to place, agreed. Either way, unless you're in immediate danger, it's illegal.

I don't think anyone here advocated just to brandish...
just that when there's a danger to life, which in this case is clear, the automated advancement of the perp would result in death.

trust me brandishing/threats are not really effective for insane people, fighting HTH isn't either.

[Alex]

Followup:

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[allanoue]

I am glad that lunatic did not have a gun.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by allanoue

I am glad that lunatic did not have a gun.

i'm glad too, but he could have easily got one if he wanted to.
homeboy had a substantial amount of money.

[Motofool]

Great find, Alex.

All that guy needs is love...............and he may be able to find it in jail.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by lgk

i'm glad too, but he could have easily got one if he wanted to.
homeboy had a substantial amount of money.

Maybe, but with 28 days to do a criminal background check, maybe not and certainly not from now on for the rest of his life.
4 times less likely to be murdered and 9 times less by a gun in Australia then the USA

[dfox]

glad this guy is off the road. Crazy that he's done this to other drivers too. The guy obviously has some rage issues, and not only should he never be allowed to get a gun, he shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of a car ever again.

Originally Posted by lgk

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idk what you laugh at. i stated i was run off the road. I was almost squished between a pickup and a parked car, while being yelled at. Had I not been able to take off down a bike lane, I'm sure I'd have eventually been hit, by a road rager. Sometimes, people are just having bad days and misdirect their anger. The guy I came across, who knows, maybe he just got laid off and was in the process of getting a divorce. Just because he's having a bad afternoon, doesn't mean he deserves to die.

and maybe you need to remember your own posts, the only reason I agreed with you on the laws differing between brandishing a gun, is because YOU started the discussion.

abrasiveness gets you nowhere in life, except ignored.

[happy944]

Crazy guy!! This is pretty scary man.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by dfox

glad this guy is off the road. Crazy that he's done this to other drivers too. The guy obviously has some rage issues, and not only should he never be allowed to get a gun, he shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel of a car ever again.

i agree with not him not being able to drive ever again, where we differ is that he should been DRT. not wasting tax dollar and resources in jail.

take my advice...
dont make the mistake of justifying the crazy, not only is it not worth your time...

you will end up victimizing yourself...

Originally Posted by dfox

idk what you laugh at. i stated i was run off the road.

you misunderstand me, that comment was about my experience riding with ragers.
people that yell at me when riding make me laugh, its like they think they own the road. i don't really care unless they start physically projecting danger towards another person... then i will find a way to end the rage either by calling cops or worse.

Originally Posted by dfox

abrasiveness gets you nowhere in life, except ignored.

idk, i seem to have gotten far with it.

the only reason i went down that path was due to this comment

Originally Posted by dfox

before you end up slapped with a felony for showing a gun to an off-duty police officer

i figured it would be useful for others be able to research the legal definition rather than guess.