Side Swiped While Lane Splitting [badly]

[akima]

Link to original page on YouTube.

IMO, her fault because she clearly didn't do a mirror check or she would have seen him. However, he was going much faster than I would split... which would be ok if he had a bit more control of his bike. I don't know if the video creates the wrong impression, but it looks like he had plenty of time to shave off more speed and plenty of space to turn more.

I'd have started shaving off speed the moment I saw her indicators go on and then would have intensified the braking as soon as I saw her car begin to turn. I think I'm being slightly deceived by the video though... it was probably all happening faster than it seems watching it after the fact. He's ok though which is good!

[caps]

No good

[Snake]

The damage is not as bad as I was expecting.

[Aggrotech]

guy took it pretty well imo lol.
Never understood how people try to use the excuse of "i didnt see you" when in reality, motorcycles are insanely easy to spot. fact that he has 1 headlight differentiates him from everyone around him, should be obvious if she would have even glimpsed in her mirror.

[CC Cowboy]

I would have definitely gotten her name and number (just in case).

[Snake]

He told her that she hit him... Wrong.. He hit her.

[Aggrotech]

Originally Posted by Snake

He told her that she hit him... Wrong.. He hit her.

argument could be made i guess.

i mean...she did turn literally right when she used her signal.

i was always under the impression that ur actually posed to let ur signals blink a few times before turning...but i guess ive been wrong this whole time D:

[akima]

Originally Posted by Aggrotech

i was always under the impression that ur actually posed to let ur signals blink a few times before turning

I was under the impression ur supposed to look where ur about to put your 1+ ton car to make sure nothing else is about to or already occupying that space.

[LNasty]

He took it well because she was pretty damn cute. Had it been a fugly chick or a dude, he prob would have been freaking out more

[walty87]

my only issue is that the dude seemed to be going a little too fast imo. Could be just cause it's on camera and in real life he may not of been going that fast.

[Aggrotech]

Originally Posted by akima

I was under the impression ur supposed to look where ur about to put your 1+ ton car to make sure nothing else is about to or already occupying that space.

obviously that takes too much effort

[alex.s]

they're both stupid. A) he should not have braked, but rather simply switched lanes with her and split between 2 and 3. B) she shouldn't be such a retard and try looking in her mirrors before she changes lanes.

[sLick415]

Shes probably one of those idiots that likes to point their side mirrors at their blind spot instead of directly behind.

[Jiggles]

Bikers fault, you don't split past a car and an empty space

[Xtina]

Firstly, is lane splitting allowed here? If not, it's the bikes fault.

[sLick415]

Originally Posted by Xtina

Firstly, is lane splitting allowed here? If not, it's the bikes fault.

I'm assuming this was I-10 in California

[Nemesis]

Clearly the motorcyclist was going too fast given the road/traffic conditions.

[beazy411]

Speed is hard to tell in that video because traffic was pretty slow/stopped. Watching the video, I saw 2 flashes but I was looking for it and the rider might not have been. That looked like the I-10 in Cali based on the quick look at one of the license plates, so lane SHARING is legal, not straight up white lining. There is a difference, even if a small one, between the two.

[dave42]

Yup, rider's fault. Too fast for his abilities, sucked at braking, and didn't even swerve.

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by beazy411

so lane SHARING is legal, not straight up white lining. There is a difference, even if a small one, between the two.

as someone who lane splits 100% of the time, there is no difference in terms of legality. in fact it isn't really technically on paper that it is legal or not. it is simply what we do. and if you ride unsafely, you'll get a ticket for being unsafe. also that rider was going an acceptable speed for conditions. the problem happened because the rider doesn't know how to ride his bike. instead of simply going around the car he slammed on his brakes and then ran into the side of the car. i split +10 to +25 everywhere. people cut me off on a regular basis. i don't crash because i simply move out of the way.

[greenmachine]

She is such a bad driver, she wasnt even sure she hit a motorcycle or not... "did you hit me?" yeah lady, you were in an accident, stop driving....

[Joshorilla]

Urgh, not another lane splitting thread

[7oxSin]

so many ove these vids on the internet, dumb vs dumber
'

omg i cant believe you hit me while i was speeding in between cars...

i have been stupid enough before to split lanes, ive only did it in grid lock on 100+ days where the ninja was going to overheat if i sat. and still if i would have got hit it would have been a "thats what my dumb ass gets" moment.

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so many ove these vids on the internet, dumb vs dumber
'

omg i cant believe you hit me while i was speeding in between cars...

i have been stupid enough before to split lanes, ive only did it in grid lock on 100+ days where the ninja was going to overheat if i sat. and still if i would have got hit it would have been a "thats what my dumb ass gets" moment.

Lane splitting is legal almost everywhere on the planet outside of 49 states, its proven time and time again to greatly reduce motorcycle acidents and fatalities. The only reason its illegal is because the american government is car-biased unlike other gas expensive countries where bikes are common even amoung government officials, and to someone in a car lane splitting looks like something exremely dangerous when in reality all it does is give the rider more room to move and avoid acidents.

People get rear ended and die not lane splitting, pretty quick to call him a dumbass just for doing something thats proven safe and legal where he lives.

People call me a dumbass for getting on a bike at all, but you and I know better dont we?

[Aggrotech]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so many ove these vids on the internet, dumb vs dumber
'

omg i cant believe you hit me while i was speeding in between cars...

i have been stupid enough before to split lanes, ive only did it in grid lock on 100+ days where the ninja was going to overheat if i sat. and still if i would have got hit it would have been a "thats what my dumb ass gets" moment.

regardless if its legal or not, its the drivers responsibility to look in the lane theyre going into before going into that lane via MIRRORS...that way this kinda stuff doesnt happen. Doubt she would have seen a car either lolol.

Derp

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by greenmachine

Lane splitting is legal almost everywhere on the planet outside of 49 states, its proven time and time again to greatly reduce motorcycle acidents and fatalities. The only reason its illegal is because the american government is car-biased unlike other gas expensive countries where bikes are common even amoung government officials, and to someone in a car lane splitting looks like something exremely dangerous when in reality all it does is give the rider more room to move and avoid acidents.

People get rear ended and die not lane splitting, pretty quick to call him a dumbass just for doing something thats proven safe and legal where he lives.

People call me a dumbass for getting on a bike at all, but you and I know better dont we?

so flying on the white line in between cars with 1 foot clearance on each side is not only legal, but a wise move in your book?

Edit pulled this from the interwebs
Motorcycle safety author and consultant Pat Hahn wrote in his 50-state handbook of US motorcycling laws that:
"Lane sharing with vehicles other than motorcycles is not legal anywhere, including California. However, it is tolerated in California to large degree" and that "California is the only state in the country that allows lane splitting, lane sharing, and filtering. However, contrary to legend, it is not legal. Nor is it illegal. It falls in a gray area unique to California … You can (and will) get stopped and cited if you're riding like an as

[alex.s]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so flying on the white line in between cars with 1 foot clearance on each side is not only legal, but a wise move in your book?

Edit pulled this from the interwebs
Motorcycle safety author and consultant Pat Hahn wrote in his 50-state handbook of US motorcycling laws that:
"Lane sharing with vehicles other than motorcycles is not legal anywhere, including California. However, it is tolerated in California to large degree" and that "California is the only state in the country that allows lane splitting, lane sharing, and filtering. However, contrary to legend, it is not legal. Nor is it illegal. It falls in a gray area unique to California … You can (and will) get stopped and cited if you're riding like an as

i'll be clear when i say this so you don't misunderstand me...

points:
1) you're an idiot.
2) you don't know what you're talking about.
3) you're wrong.

[JELY1990]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so flying on the white line in between cars with 1 foot clearance on each side is not only legal, but a wise move in your book?

Edit pulled this from the interwebs
Motorcycle safety author and consultant Pat Hahn wrote in his 50-state handbook of US motorcycling laws that:
"Lane sharing with vehicles other than motorcycles is not legal anywhere, including California. However, it is tolerated in California to large degree" and that "California is the only state in the country that allows lane splitting, lane sharing, and filtering. However, contrary to legend, it is not legal. Nor is it illegal. It falls in a gray area unique to California … You can (and will) get stopped and cited if you're riding like an as

http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by alex.s

i'll be clear when i say this so you don't misunderstand me...

points:
1) you're an idiot.
2) you don't know what you're talking about.
3) you're wrong.
4) why am i so butt-hurt?

to number 4, i dont know why...

any ways just because its in a legal grey area in one state doesn't mean its smart. im not talking about splitting a lane up to a light, im talking about what this guy is doing in the vid.

plus we all know the republik of kalifornia doesn't count when it comes to laws

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by Aggrotech

regardless if its legal or not, its the drivers responsibility to look in the lane theyre going into before going into that lane via MIRRORS...that way this kinda stuff doesnt happen. Doubt she would have seen a car either lolol.

Derp

i agree from that stand point, what im saying is that both parties engaged in dumb acts with motor vehicles.

[Panda]

I wish motorcycles were "insanely easy to spot"!

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by JELY1990

http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html

thank you for your link jely, alot more helpful then taking your milometer peter rage out on your fellow riders.

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so flying on the white line in between cars with 1 foot clearance on each side is not only legal, but a wise move in your book?

Edit pulled this from the interwebs
Motorcycle safety author and consultant Pat Hahn wrote in his 50-state handbook of US motorcycling laws that:
"Lane sharing with vehicles other than motorcycles is not legal anywhere, including California. However, it is tolerated in California to large degree" and that "California is the only state in the country that allows lane splitting, lane sharing, and filtering. However, contrary to legend, it is not legal. Nor is it illegal. It falls in a gray area unique to California … You can (and will) get stopped and cited if you're riding like an as

Yes, seeing as I dont have 4 walls around me while I ride, It is extremely safe for me to be in complete control over myself and my motorcycle, that includes freedom to move, theres room for me to sit between cars at a red, so I do so.

You arent a scientist or a statistician. Its proved year after year that countries and states that allow lane splitting have less accidents and deaths than those that dont. Just because you think its scary doesnt mean it is or dangerous.

You may look at your opinion this way,

-Most people think its scary and dangerous to be on a motorcycle, I dont, and I know its relatively safe.

-You think its scary and dangerous to lanesplit, I dont, and I know its relatively safe.

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

so flying on the white line in between cars with 1 foot clearance on each side is not only legal, but a wise move in your book?

Edit pulled this from the interwebs
Motorcycle safety author and consultant Pat Hahn wrote in his 50-state handbook of US motorcycling laws that:
"Lane sharing with vehicles other than motorcycles is not legal anywhere, including California. However, it is tolerated in California to large degree" and that "California is the only state in the country that allows lane splitting, lane sharing, and filtering. However, contrary to legend, it is not legal. Nor is it illegal. It falls in a gray area unique to California … You can (and will) get stopped and cited if you're riding like an as

Great job pulling that valuable information off of wikipedia. The website where I can make Matt Damon my dad in about 3 clicks.

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by greenmachine

Yes, seeing as I dont have 4 walls around me while I ride, It is extremely safe for me to be in complete control over myself and my motorcycle, that includes freedom to move, theres room for me to sit between cars at a red, so I do so.

You arent a scientist or a statistician. Its proved year after year that countries and states that allow lane splitting have less accidents and deaths than those that dont. Just because you think its scary doesnt mean it is or dangerous.

You may look at your opinion this way,

-Most people think its scary and dangerous to be on a motorcycle, I dont, and I know its relatively safe.

-You think its scary and dangerous to lanesplit, I dont, and I know its relatively safe.

again, not talking about red lights, just talking about speeding through traffic

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

to number 4, i dont know why...

any ways just because its in a legal grey area in one state doesn't mean its smart. im not talking about splitting a lane up to a light, im talking about what this guy is doing in the vid.

plus we all know the republik of kalifornia doesn't count when it comes to laws

After reading this, its obvious that you are just misinformed. Its not popular vote that lanesplitting is illegal. Its popular vote that lanesplitting is legal.

Outside of the US its legal EVERYWHERE. its not a "grey area in one state" Its an established FACT that lanesplitting saves lives, is safe and legal ALL OVER THE WORLD.

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

again, not talking about red lights, just talking about speeding through traffic

Its 110% percent safe to ride through traffic as long as you understand that a car in the left lane CAN AND WILL pull into the right lane if he has space there and you need to prepare for that.

As stated earlier, the rider in the video should have known that there was a space to the right of the female driver, and prepared to change lanes/brake when and if she put her signal on and changed lanes.

Its definitely NOT safe to just jump out and lanesplit, you have to learn how to do it and understand traffic.

Why would I not be able to fly between two cars going 60 if they are parallel to eachother? Neither can change lanes towards me.

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by greenmachine

After reading this, its obvious that you are just misinformed. Its not popular vote that lanesplitting is illegal. Its popular vote that lanesplitting is legal.

Outside of the US its legal EVERYWHERE. its not a "grey area in one state" Its an established FACT that lanesplitting saves lives, is safe and legal ALL OVER THE WORLD.

did you see the word state, that ment INSIDE the united states, and again, i didnt know all of those lane splitting crashes where fakes and the people where actually super safe and lived long safe lives...

i also said that i have split lanes before, if any of the flamers here read posts... wait that would stop them from being flamers, never mind.

[7oxSin]

Originally Posted by greenmachine

Its 110% percent safe to ride through traffic as long as you understand that a car in the left lane CAN AND WILL pull into the right lane if he has space there and you need to prepare for that.

As stated earlier, the rider in the video should have known that there was a space to the right of the female driver, and prepared to change lanes/brake when and if she put her signal on and changed lanes.

Its definitely NOT safe to just jump out and lanesplit, you have to learn how to do it and understand traffic.

Why would I not be able to fly between two cars going 60 if they are parallel to eachother? Neither can change lanes towards me.

again, not 2 cars, 20 or more hence the word traffic. and no one ever said consciences lane splitting was dangerous, i said flying on the white line in traffic, again, traffic = more then 2 cars...

[greenmachine]

Originally Posted by 7oxSin

again, not 2 cars, 20 or more hence the word traffic. and no one ever said consciences lane splitting was dangerous, i said flying on the white line in traffic, again, traffic = more then 2 cars...

Good god, I feel the need to draw you a picture, let me visit paint...