Honda CBR250RR in 2011

Den · July 22nd, 2010, 02:00 PM

http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/...g-ar80944.html
Not sure if anybody has seen it before, a quick search on the forum didn't return any good results.
It looks like our Ninja will get some competition some time soon.

So, what are your thoughts?

00NissanNinja · July 22nd, 2010, 02:12 PM

Looks pretty nice probably will be some competition for the ninja. That v-twin engine will probably give it a little more umph at the low end than the ninja. Knowing honda its going to be expensive though.

TrueFader · July 22nd, 2010, 02:16 PM

not gonna come to u.s.

00NissanNinja · July 22nd, 2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFader

not gonna come to u.s.

Nope definitely not coming here but the OP is European, uk right?

Cab305 · July 22nd, 2010, 02:33 PM

I'd like to import 1 for track only!

Den · July 22nd, 2010, 02:35 PM

Yeah, right.
This one should produce 32.1bhp so it must be fuel injected.
I'm strangely surprised why doesn't Honda target major 250 markets, or should this change? I think it's a 'Watch this space' case.

00NissanNinja · July 22nd, 2010, 02:40 PM

America is considered the place where only horsepower matters, That's why there are so few 250 sportbikes here. Honda should bring it though since they don't really have an entry level sportbike. Or are they too scared of the kawasaki ninja 250r? lol

lockie · July 22nd, 2010, 06:48 PM

Looks sorta ugly IMHO.

bob706 · July 22nd, 2010, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockie

Looks sorta ugly IMHO.

+1

c-dog · July 22nd, 2010, 06:58 PM

One thing about it is pretty cool to me - an aluminum frame. Wonder how much it weighs in comparison to the Ninja 250?

Reswob · July 22nd, 2010, 07:06 PM

well it certainly didn't inherit the good looks of it's older brother.

Anteraan · July 22nd, 2010, 07:20 PM

It's not as ugly as some of Honda's recent models (See also: NT700 and new VFR1200, although the Fury looks nice), but it's quite a ways behind the Ninjette.

tiggen · July 22nd, 2010, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cab305

I'd like to import 1 for track only!

Put me down for two!! I'll need a B bike as well.

I have seen the future. The world economy tanks, large capacity bikes become prohibitively expensive to build much less buy, and Honda, along with other manufacturers, decides to import 250's into America. Production 250 racing sees a heyday that rivals post-Earnhardt NASCAR. Glorious.

dubojr1 · July 23rd, 2010, 06:49 AM

I will have to have at least one if they make it here!

ckholloway · July 23rd, 2010, 07:57 AM

I would like to see it come to the US. Kawasaki makes a great product but they need a little competition to push them to make it even better. I think the bike would sell very well in the US and cause other builder to step up there game a little.

RaceBikeRentals · July 23rd, 2010, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckholloway

I would like to see it come to the US. Kawasaki makes a great product but they need a little competition to push them to make it even better. I think the bike would sell very well in the US and cause other builder to step up there game a little.

Hehehe, you must not know Kawasaki very well

The new gen Ninja 250R will look the same 20 years from now. They could care less about competition. Their bread and butter models soldier on forever.

randomwalk101 · July 23rd, 2010, 08:45 AM

Honda better not make it cuz I want my ninja 250 to be the best 250 ever....damn the FI model

j/k
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want1sobad · July 23rd, 2010, 08:47 AM

that honda is FUGLY!

CZroe · July 23rd, 2010, 09:20 AM

Like most here, I prefer the EX250J's styling, though I do like seeing the aluminum frame. Even though it's visibly much thinner than most aluminum frames, it is still overkill and mostly for looks, which only makes me wonder why they didn't do something similar with the swingarm.

ckholloway · July 23rd, 2010, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

Hehehe, you must not know Kawasaki very well

The new gen Ninja 250R will look the same 20 years from now. They could care less about competition. Their bread and butter models soldier on forever.

I know kawasaki very well actually aside from my Hayabusa, kawasaki has always been my motorcycle of choice for many many years. You are right about them not changing things, however when the market pushes for it they will change. I personally wouldn't buy a honda but to see kawi come out with an alum. perimeter frame would be kickass.

My personal opinion would be to discontinue any and all 250cc twins and release 400cc 4 cylinders.

TygaUSA.com · July 23rd, 2010, 01:49 PM

I doubt we will see a 250 CBR from Honda here in the states, considering all of their bad moves in the last 10 years...

They did not release an updated Hawk 650 when Suzuki had a hit with the SV so I doubt they will try to compete with Kawi in the 250 market.

They make a kinda cool CBR 150, I actually almost bought one (Thai market) but it does not compare to the Yamaha 125 that is actually much more track oriented (capable) than the Honda which is just a street bike.

It is sad we do not get the cool 250's and 400's the rest of the world does, I can just imagine what a modern CBR400RR would be like!

ithaca00 · July 23rd, 2010, 02:09 PM

First of all that rendering, and it is just a fanboy rendering, shows two different engines.

TygaUSA.com · July 23rd, 2010, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithaca00

First of all that rendering, and it is just a fanboy rendering, shows two different engines.

Some of it looks alot like the CBR 150 (frame) so I am sure they chopped it a bit from that!

I could not see Honda using a parallel twin 250, maybe a V or a single.

Werehusky · July 24th, 2010, 07:19 AM

No undertail exhaust

KTRacing38 · July 24th, 2010, 09:04 AM

Honda has been doing it's best to squash the Ninja 250 Cup here in Canada. Easy to do seeing as Kawasaki isn't backing it in any way. Kawi is barely supporting Canadian racing at all this year. Maybe this is Honda's answer for how to help out all the young racers that are coming up through the CBR 125 Cup ranks. Most of them aren't ready to get on a 600 and the SV cup pushes them over to a different manufacturer.

Guinss · July 24th, 2010, 09:14 AM

I dont like the plastic see-through fairings.

sixer · July 25th, 2010, 09:05 AM

ugly

thurt88 · July 25th, 2010, 09:42 AM

I would buy one

.
I bought the Kawasaki because it was the only quality 250cc sportbike.

Den · July 25th, 2010, 11:28 AM

This is the engine they will use:

Engine 249cc 90° V-twin DOHC 4 valves per cylinder, bore x stroke 60 mm x 44 mm, compression ratio 11:1
Power 23.9 kW (32.1 hp)@10500 rpm
Torque 23.5 N·m (17.3 ft·lb)@8500 rpm

To me the figures are almost the same as the Ninja's FI engine.
This should be a very close comparison, and in the very near future these two bikes will be often closely compared (and raced).

tiggen · July 26th, 2010, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTRacing38

Honda has been doing it's best to squash the Ninja 250 Cup here in Canada. Easy to do seeing as Kawasaki isn't backing it in any way. Kawi is barely supporting Canadian racing at all this year. Maybe this is Honda's answer for how to help out all the young racers that are coming up through the CBR 125 Cup ranks. Most of them aren't ready to get on a 600 and the SV cup pushes them over to a different manufacturer.

How's that? Are they getting people to race the VTR? Is there an aftermarket for that bike up there?

spooph · July 26th, 2010, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckholloway

I know kawasaki very well actually aside from my Hayabusa, kawasaki has always been my motorcycle of choice for many many years. You are right about them not changing things, however when the market pushes for it they will change. I personally wouldn't buy a honda but to see kawi come out with an alum. perimeter frame would be kickass.

My personal opinion would be to discontinue any and all 250cc twins and release 400cc 4 cylinders.

+1

fujimumu · July 26th, 2010, 07:18 PM

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What is this? A kick starter?

Mista Bob · July 26th, 2010, 07:46 PM

That's a shot from a CRF250 or 450.

TygaUSA.com · July 26th, 2010, 09:28 PM

Well I WAS WRONG!!!

Just heard from a reliable source, that Honda WILL make this model...nearly a done deal, and it will be a world model!!

fujimumu · July 26th, 2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mista Bob

That's a shot from a CRF250 or 450.

Why is that picture on the page for the 250RR?

c-dog · July 26th, 2010, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TygaUSA.com

Well I WAS WRONG!!!

Just heard from a reliable source, that Honda WILL make this model...nearly a done deal, and it will be a world model!!

So the US will be getting this too? Or world bike - as in everywhere except US?

Sound Wave · July 26th, 2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinss

I dont like the plastic see-through fairings.

lol... not sure if you are joking or not, but it is just showing what the engine looks like under the fairing. kind of like:

back on topic, i wouldn't buy one, but it would be nice to see honda bring it to the united states.

00NissanNinja · July 26th, 2010, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TygaUSA.com

Well I WAS WRONG!!!

Just heard from a reliable source, that Honda WILL make this model...nearly a done deal, and it will be a world model!!

Really?! that is unexpected so the ninja has a little competetion now. Hmmm ...Ninja FTW still

It is a sort of nice honda though

TygaUSA.com · July 27th, 2010, 11:51 AM

Well it is a go that the bike will be produced by Honda, whether it comes to the States is something else entirely!

July 22nd, 2010, 02:00 PM	#1
Den ninjette.org member Name: Denis Location: Brighton, UK Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 250R(sold); '10 ER-6F Posts: 152	Honda CBR250RR in 2011 http://www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/...g-ar80944.html Not sure if anybody has seen it before, a quick search on the forum didn't return any good results. It looks like our Ninja will get some competition some time soon. So, what are your thoughts?

July 22nd, 2010, 02:12 PM	#2
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Looks pretty nice probably will be some competition for the ninja. That v-twin engine will probably give it a little more umph at the low end than the ninja. Knowing honda its going to be expensive though. __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

July 22nd, 2010, 02:40 PM	#7
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	America is considered the place where only horsepower matters, That's why there are so few 250 sportbikes here. Honda should bring it though since they don't really have an entry level sportbike. Or are they too scared of the kawasaki ninja 250r? lol __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

July 22nd, 2010, 07:06 PM	#11
Reswob ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Richmond VA Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Triumph Bonneville Black Posts: 627	well it certainly didn't inherit the good looks of it's older brother. __________________________________________________ '08 Bonneville Black sold->'08 Ninja 250R \| OES Swingarm Spools \| EBC HH brake pads \| reflector delete \| no-cut brake light modulator \| DIY fender eliminator

July 23rd, 2010, 06:49 AM	#14
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	I will have to have at least one if they make it here! __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

July 22nd, 2010, 02:16 PM	#3
TrueFader ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: California Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: 129	not gonna come to u.s.

July 22nd, 2010, 02:33 PM	#5
Cab305 ninjette.org sage Name: Cab Location: Miami Beach Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Blue 10 250r Posts: 697	I'd like to import 1 for track only!

July 22nd, 2010, 02:35 PM	#6
Den ninjette.org member Name: Denis Location: Brighton, UK Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 250R(sold); '10 ER-6F Posts: 152	Yeah, right. This one should produce 32.1bhp so it must be fuel injected. I'm strangely surprised why doesn't Honda target major 250 markets, or should this change? I think it's a 'Watch this space' case.

July 22nd, 2010, 06:48 PM	#8
lockie ninjette.org sage Name: don Location: Port Elgin NB Canada Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 blue ninja 250R Posts: 742	Looks sorta ugly IMHO.

July 22nd, 2010, 06:58 PM	#10
c-dog ninjette.org sage Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: 591	One thing about it is pretty cool to me - an aluminum frame. Wonder how much it weighs in comparison to the Ninja 250?

July 22nd, 2010, 07:20 PM	#12
Anteraan ninjette.org member Name: Scott Location: Indianapolis Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 (Blue) Posts: 167	It's not as ugly as some of Honda's recent models (See also: NT700 and new VFR1200, although the Fury looks nice), but it's quite a ways behind the Ninjette.

July 23rd, 2010, 07:57 AM	#15
ckholloway ninjette.org member Name: Corey Location: Oregon Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): none yet Posts: 142	I would like to see it come to the US. Kawasaki makes a great product but they need a little competition to push them to make it even better. I think the bike would sell very well in the US and cause other builder to step up there game a little. __________________________________________________ Riding is not just something you do, It's a way of life!!

July 23rd, 2010, 08:45 AM	#17
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	Honda better not make it cuz I want my ninja 250 to be the best 250 ever....damn the FI model j/k Posted via Mobile Device

July 23rd, 2010, 08:47 AM	#18
want1sobad Ninjette CPT Name: Vince Location: jacksonville, fl Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Black 08 250r Posts: A lot.	that honda is FUGLY!

July 23rd, 2010, 09:20 AM	#19
CZroe CPT Falcon Name: J.Emmett Turner Location: Newnan, GA Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '08 CP Blue EX250J, '97 unpainted EX250F, 2nd '97 unpainted EX250F (no engine), '07 black EX250F Posts: A lot.	Like most here, I prefer the EX250J's styling, though I do like seeing the aluminum frame. Even though it's visibly much thinner than most aluminum frames, it is still overkill and mostly for looks, which only makes me wonder why they didn't do something similar with the swingarm.

July 23rd, 2010, 01:49 PM	#21
TygaUSA.com Tyga Performance Name: TygaUSA Location: Nevada Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Honda's! Posts: 99	I doubt we will see a 250 CBR from Honda here in the states, considering all of their bad moves in the last 10 years... They did not release an updated Hawk 650 when Suzuki had a hit with the SV so I doubt they will try to compete with Kawi in the 250 market. They make a kinda cool CBR 150, I actually almost bought one (Thai market) but it does not compare to the Yamaha 125 that is actually much more track oriented (capable) than the Honda which is just a street bike. It is sad we do not get the cool 250's and 400's the rest of the world does, I can just imagine what a modern CBR400RR would be like! __________________________________________________ www.tygausa.com Tyga Performance Products! (775) 293-TYGA *Ninja 250 exhausts and carbon fiber and LOTS more!!*

July 23rd, 2010, 02:09 PM	#22
ithaca00 ninjette.org guru Name: Ryan Location: Sacramento, CA Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2007 EX250 (street), 1994 EX250 (Race), 2008 250R (Race), 2000 250 (project), 1991 EL250 (a cruiser!) Posts: 287	First of all that rendering, and it is just a fanboy rendering, shows two different engines.

July 24th, 2010, 07:19 AM	#24
Werehusky ninjette.org member Name: Jon Location: DF to the W Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninjette(sold), 2011 ZX-10r Posts: 66	No undertail exhaust

July 24th, 2010, 09:04 AM	#25
KTRacing38 2010 250 Cup Champion Name: Kristy Location: Port Perry, Ontario, Canada Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R and 2007 Honda CR150F Posts: 168	Honda has been doing it's best to squash the Ninja 250 Cup here in Canada. Easy to do seeing as Kawasaki isn't backing it in any way. Kawi is barely supporting Canadian racing at all this year. Maybe this is Honda's answer for how to help out all the young racers that are coming up through the CBR 125 Cup ranks. Most of them aren't ready to get on a 600 and the SV cup pushes them over to a different manufacturer.

July 24th, 2010, 09:14 AM	#26
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	I dont like the plastic see-through fairings.

July 25th, 2010, 09:05 AM	#27
sixer no joy Name: Six Location: Cali Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 2006 636 Posts: 408	ugly

July 25th, 2010, 09:42 AM	#28
thurt88 ninjette.org guru Name: Tommy Location: Missouri Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Honda CRF250L, 2010 ninja 250r Posts: 413	I would buy one . I bought the Kawasaki because it was the only quality 250cc sportbike.

July 25th, 2010, 11:28 AM	#29
Den ninjette.org member Name: Denis Location: Brighton, UK Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): '10 250R(sold); '10 ER-6F Posts: 152	This is the engine they will use: Engine 249cc 90° V-twin DOHC 4 valves per cylinder, bore x stroke 60 mm x 44 mm, compression ratio 11:1 Power 23.9 kW (32.1 hp)@10500 rpm Torque 23.5 N·m (17.3 ft·lb)@8500 rpm To me the figures are almost the same as the Ninja's FI engine. This should be a very close comparison, and in the very near future these two bikes will be often closely compared (and raced).

July 26th, 2010, 07:18 PM	#32
fujimumu ninjette.org member Name: Kensai Location: New Jersey Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): Blue 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 103	Uploaded with ImageShack.us What is this? A kick starter?

July 26th, 2010, 07:46 PM	#33
Mista Bob Über n00b Name: Bob Location: Alberta, Canada Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Triumph TT600, Honda NS50F, Kawasaki ZZR-250 (sold) Posts: 225	That's a shot from a CRF250 or 450.

July 26th, 2010, 09:28 PM	#34
TygaUSA.com Tyga Performance Name: TygaUSA Location: Nevada Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Honda's! Posts: 99	Well I WAS WRONG!!! Just heard from a reliable source, that Honda WILL make this model...nearly a done deal, and it will be a world model!! __________________________________________________ www.tygausa.com Tyga Performance Products! (775) 293-TYGA *Ninja 250 exhausts and carbon fiber and LOTS more!!*

July 27th, 2010, 11:51 AM	#39
TygaUSA.com Tyga Performance Name: TygaUSA Location: Nevada Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Honda's! Posts: 99	Well it is a go that the bike will be produced by Honda, whether it comes to the States is something else entirely! __________________________________________________ www.tygausa.com Tyga Performance Products! (775) 293-TYGA *Ninja 250 exhausts and carbon fiber and LOTS more!!*

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