April 18th, 2009, 06:15 AM | #1 |
Scooter Trash No0b
Name: Frank
Location: Cleveland
Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 EX250R 'Gears of War' Theme Bike, ZG DB screen, cowl, progrips. Posts: 73
|
Was Stoner really squirrelly or what?
I'm totally new to watching Moto GP, but i watched Qatar the other day, and Stoner's rear end looked really loose. (Insert jokes here). Anyone else notice that his bike didn't exactly look planted? I didn't notice it on most of the others, but I saw a couple of times he looked like he was gonna back it in.
It's either that or I'm just a crackhead motogp noob and don't know nada. |
|
April 18th, 2009, 07:45 AM | #2 |
Akai Suisei - 赤い彗星
Name: Joseph
Location: socal
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kurosaki 250, 09 Honda 600RawrRawr Posts: 540
|
It's typical of the Ducati. They've been doing a lot of R&D to fix that problem with the rear end of the bike moving and pumping excessively.
That's why they built the CF swingarm and apparently it's been helping. Obviously the problem isn't totally gone but it's obviously good enough to be competitive... If you can see the bike moving from X hundred yards away, then it's moving alot for the rider. And if it looks violent on camera, imagine how the rider feels. The D16 is a strange bike. It takes a real specialist to make it go fast. Whatever Casey is doing, everyone else hasn't quite grasped. Mika Kallio seems to be doing OK so far which is impressive for a rookie. The other bikes on the field are not quite as "hard" to ride. The M1 seems to be a pretty friendly bike, as evidenced by Yamaha going 2nd, 3rd, and 4th and their other achievements in the past couple years. I would probably call the Yamaha the best bike in the paddock overall. Toseland needs to get it together and step up with the other Yamaha riders... |
|
April 18th, 2009, 07:13 PM | #3 |
I'm lovin' it.
Name: Mike
Location: Melb, Australia
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.
|
Hopefully Ducati get that problem fixed asap.
As for the Yamaha being the best bikes, I'd have to agree. I just hope the Hayatte team and the Kawasaki bike can get more competitive.
__________________________________________________
Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son. |
|
April 18th, 2009, 10:33 PM | #4 |
Track Junkie
Name: Jon
Location: Dallas
Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r Track Bike, DR350 commuter, KDX220 woods bike Posts: 602
|
if i remember right the yamahas really weren't very well sorted out before rossi switched over from honda. i guess his crew they brought over along with an extra wad of money made a pretty big difference.
__________________________________________________
Las Escobas -- Track Bikes Save Lives JonBroom.com |
|
April 18th, 2009, 11:06 PM | #5 |
I'm lovin' it.
Name: Mike
Location: Melb, Australia
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 Black 250R Posts: A lot.
|
Money makes the world go round, and also makes MotoGP teams better
__________________________________________________
Son: When I grow up I want to ride a motorbike. Father: You can't do both son. |
|
April 19th, 2009, 09:20 AM | #6 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Whodat
Location: Ware Is.,MA
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14
|
If you were to watch the MotoGP races (or any other pro races) in slow motion you will notice the bikes are sliding and sqirming all over the place. These riders just know how to controll (most of the time) all the action.
__________________________________________________
If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough! |
|
April 19th, 2009, 08:31 PM | #7 |
ninjette.org guru
Name: Purspeed
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 469
|
When the rear tire exceeds 100% traction, the rear end will move laterally (side to side) in order to gain traction. Ideally, you want about 7% slippage when accelerating off of the line.
In a turn, losing traction can cause a highside. These guys are experts at high speed ballet.
__________________________________________________
"This is my Ninja. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." ~ Purspeed (ca. Nov, 2008) |
|
April 24th, 2009, 07:07 AM | #8 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Steve
Location: Providence, RI
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '95 BMW K75 Posts: 188
|
I thought I had heard during the Qatar broadcast that the Hayate team was putting $0 R&D into their bike for the rest of the season so poor Marco was going to end up dropping back in the standings... I could be wrong, but it's disappointing - MotoGP drives a lot of the tech we see in our bikes and that does tend to imply that Kawi's going to fall behind Honda and Suzuki in the RR market. At our end, I'm not too worried, though - I'm not seeing much call for ABS or traction control on the Ninjette
|
|
April 24th, 2009, 09:36 AM | #9 |
ninjette.org certified postwhore
Name: Whodat
Location: Ware Is.,MA
Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14
|
I'm still waiting for the 250 to have an airbag so all the newbie don't get hurt in their maiden crash.
__________________________________________________
If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough! |
|
April 24th, 2009, 11:32 AM | #10 |
ninjette.org member
Name: Steve
Location: Providence, RI
Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): '95 BMW K75 Posts: 188
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Squirrelly back end | Proteus | Riding Skills | 27 | October 16th, 2014 12:27 PM |
[superbikeplanet.com] - Stoner. Stoner. Stoner. Third Practice Goes To Stoner at Barc | Ninjette Newsbot | Motorcycling News | 0 | June 4th, 2011 06:20 AM |
[superbikeplanet.com] - Sepang MotoGP Tests: Stoner ... Stoner ... Stoner | Ninjette Newsbot | Motorcycling News | 0 | February 1st, 2011 05:40 AM |
Rear end feeling squirrelly | Buffalony | 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk | 36 | August 12th, 2009 12:31 PM |
[crash.net - MotoGP] - Stoner vs. Stoner, sympathy for Rossi. | Ninjette Newsbot | Motorcycling News | 0 | June 28th, 2008 07:40 PM |
|
|