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Old December 17th, 2014, 12:03 AM   #41
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I don't think you're supposed to cover the rear brake.
I like to have my foot in position incase i need to hit it
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Old December 17th, 2014, 01:35 AM   #42
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Hello guys,
Anyway bottom line, I am comfortable on this bike, I respect it, and I'm not a reckless person. I am also a relatively big guy 6 foot 240 pounds. Would you recommend a liter bike in the spring? or should i stick to a 600?

Anyways hope everyone is riding safe and enjoying themselves
A liter bike will be too much bike for you. And if you weight 240lbs, the 250 is surely too small for you. I'm pretty sure if you behave & get more experience, the 600 would be perfect for you. You could even get away with a CBR500R, CBR 650, and many more sport touring bikes. The 250 is a great starter bike, and will help build your skills for faster bikes. You gotta ask yourself what you want out of a motorcycle and how much you are willing to pay for that certain make & model. That will ultimately determine your future bike.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 01:35 AM   #43
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Old December 17th, 2014, 11:45 AM   #44
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I like to have my foot in position incase i need to hit it
"Hitting" the rear brake might not produce the result you're looking for. Do some homework on highside crashes.

Think about it... when you're under heavy braking, what's happening to the rear tire? It's unweighting, which means it's easy to lock. Locking the rear can be dangerous and lead to a highside as the rear locks, then regains traction.

Look at your front brake. Now look at your rear brake. Why is the front so much bigger? Why do supersports have two HUGE front brakes but one tiny rear brake? Which end of the bike do you think does most of the work? In short, where is the vast majority of your braking power concentrated?

Next time you ride, try stopping using only the rear brake. What happens? (Hint: Leave LOTS of room.)

Now try doing a similar stop using only the front brake. What happens?

Do you think you can stop safely using only the front brake?

Are you aware that many track riders and racers use the rear brake seldom, if at all? Watch some racing footage... the rear tire is often OFF THE GROUND under heavy braking.

Bottom line: The rear brake is indeed there for a reason -- it settles the chassis and can shorten stopping distances somewhat -- but it should not be "HIT" as a rule.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 11:52 AM   #45
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Interesting points man, so for slowing down into turns and slowing down softly when I have plenty of room(the only 2 times I'm using just the back brake), is it best to just use the front lightly? Or engine brake?
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Old December 17th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #46
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Front brake is where it's at.

Your brakes can do WAAAY more than you think they can.

You should be in gear for the drive out of the corner before you roll on, so there will be some engine braking too.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 12:49 PM   #47
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Welcome, I would suggest a track day or two before you try to move on.

You might discover how much more there is to your bike than you think.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #48
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You're almost ready for the interstate. Def get a liter bike.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 01:42 PM   #49
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Old December 17th, 2014, 03:07 PM   #50
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Interesting points man, so for slowing down into turns and slowing down softly when I have plenty of room(the only 2 times I'm using just the back brake), is it best to just use the front lightly? Or engine brake?
brake pads are cheap, engines are expensive

if you mess up your downshifts to use the engine to slow the bike down you can blow the engine.

therefore the front brake is where it's at, downshift as you're slowing down. Many times you don't need to brake before a corner but just roll off the gas a bit because you aren't going that fast. Just remember not to turn in and add throttle at the exact same time, that's begging for a lowside.

Head to the track sometime to really practice your skills with people who know how to teach you based off of what they see you doing (mid-ohio is the best for this that is remotely near you)


also sidenote: don't cover your rear brake, if you accidentally press it at the wrong time you're screwed and it also doesn't let you weight the peg properly. Cover the front instead with 2 fingers. I ride like that 75% of the time on the streets because it cuts down your reaction time significantly.
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Old December 17th, 2014, 05:13 PM   #51
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Thanks guys, will change up how I ride as it sounds to be much safer. Cheers for not sticking with bad habits
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Old December 17th, 2014, 07:27 PM   #52
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Old December 17th, 2014, 07:49 PM   #53
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H2.

Why wouldn't you need 300 horsepower?
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