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Old November 17th, 2021, 07:23 PM   #1
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2007 Ninja 250r Tire Recommendations

I need a set of tires for my 2007 ninja 250. I have read the FAQ on tires. I am 55 years old so I'm not going to be tearing up the countryside on my bike. I may take a few curvy roads every now and then just to scare myself but other than that I will be driving around our small community and the occasional short cruise on the highway. I do like speed so I will probably put the hammer down when I can. It's just those curvy roads that I'm not sure about. This is my first sport bike. The tires that are currently on the bike are the factory ones. I do want to have to raise my front fender so a bigger front tire is out.

I was thinking about the Metzeler Feelfree.

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Old November 17th, 2021, 08:53 PM   #2
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Bridgestone BT45 is a good sport touring tire that I've been using for a while.
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There's A LOT of tyres available now that's not mentioned in FAQ. BT45 are awesome dual-compound tyres with sticky sides. Shinkos have really proven themselves since FAQ was written. I've gotten 10K-miles from set of Shinko SR740/741 and they've been amazingly grippy, smooth and durable. Gonna get another set for my 2002 250 soon!
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Old November 17th, 2021, 11:41 PM   #4
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BT45 Bias tire not thanks give me Radial tires
Bridgestone don't even make Front: 100/80-16 and Rear: 130/80-16
Shinko Tires SR740/741 Radial or Dunlop Tires K630 Bias is all I can find or just front but no rear or other way around by other brand it seem like even one is discontinue.
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I use the Shinko 740/741 on mine. It came with Dunlops but those were awful. There may be better Dunlops available, but I stick with the Shinkos because I know I like them.
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I can recommend Michelin City Grips. They're scooter tires and available in a wide variety of sizes, plus they are cheap, relatively performance-oriented tires. I was glad to see them recommended here as 16" tires are getting odd-ball for motorcycles - not for scooters though!
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Old November 18th, 2021, 02:43 PM   #7
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I can recommend Michelin City Grips. They're scooter tires and available in a wide variety of sizes, plus they are cheap, relatively performance-oriented tires. I was glad to see them recommended here as 16" tires are getting odd-ball for motorcycles - not for scooters though!
The thing is City Grips even newer ver 2.0 are no longer making 130/80-16
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I didn't know they discontinued the 130. I run a 120 anyway, it feels great on the lil 250.
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I didn't know they discontinued the 130. I run a 120 anyway, it feels great on the lil 250.
By going with 120 it smaller is size which I'm guest is a 120/80-16 ?
It give you less Sidewall Height 8mm or 5/16" and smaller Diameter 16mm or 5/8" and less Width 10mm about 3/8".
But it dose help in gearing

The only other work around in sizes is by going 100/90-16 front and 130/90-16 rear
It give you more Sidewall Height 13mm or 1/2" and over Diameter 26mm or 1" over stock size
But keep mind that this changes SpeedO and other thing
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I've had good luck in locating Shinko tires for my bikes and they ware fairly good and hold the road real well, the good thing about Shinko is their about $100 bucks less than the name brand tires ...
but to me a tire isn't all that important ...I don't race and I barely ride anymore
so as long as they don't crack when sitting I'll be fine ! LOL
both my bikes came with new tires... how strange is THAT !?!?!? so I won't be buying any tires any time soon !
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unfortunately the Triumph 750 has a odd looking tread pattern on the back tire
and I don't like the way it looks.... I'd much rather have a Pirelli MT53 on there as they were my favorite tire back in the day...
I'm 68 and although I love cornering those twisty roads I didn't get to do much of it this year.... I spent most of my riding time getting the bike to run right.
so next year I might be able to make those chicken strips a bit skinnier ! LOL
so my biggest dilemma will be which bike to ride ! LOL.....
I've never had that problem before ! HA !
And the KLR I am trying to get has new tires on it as well... a knobby street tire of some sort....more dirt oriented, which is perfect ! ...so I'm set for tires for a long time me thinks !
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By going with 120 it smaller is size which I'm guest is a 120/80-16 ?
It give you less Sidewall Height 8mm or 5/16" and smaller Diameter 16mm or 5/8" and less Width 10mm about 3/8".
But it dose help in gearing

The only other work around in sizes is by going 100/90-16 front and 130/90-16 rear
It give you more Sidewall Height 13mm or 1/2" and over Diameter 26mm or 1" over stock size
But keep mind that this changes SpeedO and other thing
Also have to drill new holes in front-fender to lift it high enough to clear taller tyre.
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wouldn't changing the front tire to a larger size change the rake and trail slightly as well ? not good, as the ninja is on the verge of having too long a rake as it is.... if anything you need a smaller tire for crisp handling in the twisties I think....
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wouldn't changing the front tire to a larger size change the rake and trail slightly as well ? not good, as the ninja is on the verge of having too long a rake as it is.... if anything you need a smaller tire for crisp handling in the twisties I think....
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Bob, you're absolutely right. Lowering the rear has the same poor effect. I raised the back by a hair and I appreciate the narrower rear tread. It sure seems to handle quick
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wouldn't changing the front tire to a larger size change the rake and trail slightly as well ? not good, as the ninja is on the verge of having too long a rake as it is.... if anything you need a smaller tire for crisp handling in the twisties I think....
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No it shouldn't as long rear gone up in size to the 130/90-16
The real problem is having enough clearance between the Fender and the tire itself on both the front and rear as you would need to gain 1/2 an inch versus the stock tire center line diameter
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Bob, you're absolutely right. Lowering the rear has the same poor effect. I raised the back by a hair and I appreciate the narrower rear tread. It sure seems to handle quick
In your case the change into a slightly smaller tire it shifts the weight to the rear more even though it's not by much and slightly lower profile tire which aid in cornering as you have a stiffer sidewall
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as all of you know I went through all kinds of height changes on my Ninja 250R
and I do believe it is alot better than it was when I first got it (stock...)
the end results were dropping the front forks 2" and raising the rear approx 3"
I added a lowering kit so I could manipulate the rear alot more ( I wanted to lower it) but I wound up with the seat height at about the same as it was...
I think dropping the front 2" was the major handling change it goes into corners with no effort at all now it's almost as if it's reading your mind it handles so well....
it works so well I'm not going to change it for love nor money ! LOL....
my tires have 28PSI in them front and rear to help soften the ride as it is sprung kind'a hard for this old man ! ...
the end results made the rake a bit steeper and shortened the trail by a tiny amount.... but I think I got about 5 deg. of steeper rake out of the deal maybe more... i don't know....but it sure handles good now !
....but this thread is about tires not geometry and I'm changing the subject talking about this stuff, so back to tires !
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I was looking at tires earlier today ( before light) and noticed something odd
many of the brand name tires have one but not the other tires not both ...
I have no idea why that is ...but I've always been under the impression it is best to buy MATCHING front and rear tires ! especially on sport bikes
.... is that true or just a bunch of B.S. ?????
for a freeway cruiser I can't see where it would matter much just about any tires that fit on the rims is good enough , just stay away from a knobby on the front and a slick on the back.... i don't think that would be a good combo for anything !
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as all of you know I went through all kinds of height changes on my Ninja 250R
and I do believe it is alot better than it was when I first got it (stock...)
the end results were dropping the front forks 2" and raising the rear approx 3"
I added a lowering kit so I could manipulate the rear alot more ( I wanted to lower it) but I wound up with the seat height at about the same as it was...
I think dropping the front 2" was the major handling change it goes into corners with no effort at all now it's almost as if it's reading your mind it handles so well....
it works so well I'm not going to change it for love nor money ! LOL....
my tires have 28PSI in them front and rear to help soften the ride as it is sprung kind'a hard for this old man ! ...
the end results made the rake a bit steeper and shortened the trail by a tiny amount.... but I think I got about 5 deg. of steeper rake out of the deal maybe more... i don't know....but it sure handles good now !
....but this thread is about tires not geometry and I'm changing the subject talking about this stuff, so back to tires !
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I was looking at tires earlier today ( before light) and noticed something odd
many of the brand name tires have one but not the other tires not both ...
I have no idea why that is ...but I've always been under the impression it is best to buy MATCHING front and rear tires ! especially on sport bikes
.... is that true or just a bunch of B.S. ?????
for a freeway cruiser I can't see where it would matter much just about any tires that fit on the rims is good enough , just stay away from a knobby on the front and a slick on the back.... i don't think that would be a good combo for anything !
....later !
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Bob the issues is the new bike have switch over to 17' manufacturers tend to stop making certain sizes after about 10/15 years unless it is super popular well sell tire size.
Front: 110/70-17
Rear: 130/70-17
The front is a tab bit taller unless you get a 100/70-17 then close match the 16" tire
The rear over there same Diameter, Width and Circum the only diff is Sidewall Height is less.
I don't know if we can swap to new Ninja 250/300 from 2008 thru 2017 front and rear rims
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I don't know if we can swap to new Ninja 250/300 from 2008 thru 2017 front and rear rims
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1. FRONT: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=266182

2. REAR: swap in new-gen swingarm, shock, linkage, rear-brake, 17" rear wheel w/rotor and spacers.

Takes about 90-minutes. Can be done as part of yearly rear-suspension greasing.
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piece of cake easy!

1. FRONT: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=266182

2. REAR: swap in new-gen swingarm, shock, linkage, rear-brake, 17" rear wheel w/rotor and spacers.

Takes about 90-minutes. Can be done as part of yearly rear-suspension greasing.
Nice but being the front end need to be mod has any one just change out the forks ?.
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I may be in the minority but I find the 16s on the old Ninjettes to add to its characteristics. I love the 17s on my SV or on a gsxr, but these are very different machines.
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Nice but being the front end need to be mod has any one just change out the forks ?.
yeah, that's been done too. Need forks, fender, brakes, 17" wheel & rotor, as well as new-gen fork-clamps due to different spacing. But lower offset on new-gen fork-clamps to match steeper head-angle causes slower lazier steering response when used on earlier pre-gen. I went back to pre-gen forks and just welded up brake-caliper bracket. Should've done that 1st time around, much, much faster upgrade process.

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yeah, that's been done too. Need forks, brakes, 17" wheel & rotor, as well as new-gen fork-clamps due to different spacing. But lower offset on new-gen fork-clamps to match steeper head-angle causes slower lazier steering response when used on earlier pre-gen. I went back to pre-gen forks and just welded up brake-caliper bracket. Should've done that 1st time around, much, much faster upgrade process.
I ref to swapping the fork them self from new gen over to old gen streeing head clamps if the tubes are same size
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I ref to swapping the fork them self from new gen over to old gen streeing head clamps if the tubes are same size
Nope, different diameter fork blades.

Instead of welding up brake-caliper holder, you can also make new one that holds caliper at different angle for larger diameter rotors.


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I may be in the minority but I find the 16s on the old Ninjettes to add to its characteristics. I love the 17s on my SV or on a gsxr, but these are very different machines.
I agree... It's a small bike ....personally I want to keep it small and compact !
these Ninja's are unique in that... small compact and powerful ...in my book that is a fantastic combination.
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Instead of welding up brake-caliper holder, you can also make new one that holds caliper at different angle for larger diameter rotors.
A lot of guys with Kaw triples use our calipers on them. The original calipers are really pretty bad, with a lot of flex. I have a single EX250 caliper on my H2 and it works great. I even used to sell the adapters to make them bolt-on. I have mine mounted behind the fork slider like our 250s have.
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A lot of guys with Kaw triples use our calipers on them. The original calipers are really pretty bad, with a lot of flex. I have a single EX250 caliper on my H2 and it works great. I even used to sell the adapters to make them bolt-on. I have mine mounted behind the fork slider like our 250s have.
That's so cool! Yeah these brakes work really well. Holds up great at track with just DOT-4 and Galfer pads!!!
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That's so cool! Yeah these brakes work really well. Holds up great at track with just DOT-4 and Galfer pads!!!
I've been using EBC HH pads. It's easy to pick up a caliper in good condition on eBay. You just have to be careful to get the side you want it for, since some of the EX bikes have dual calipers.
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So it's not just me then?? I was really impressed with the brakes on my ex250 after just a fluid flush. The front brake is just about the biggest gripe on my SV; I've upgraded to sst lines, sintered pads, and a Brembo master cylinder and now they're acceptable. The little Ninjette is good to go
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