ninjette.org

Go Back   ninjette.org > 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R > 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old November 28th, 2021, 06:10 PM   #41
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by shspvr View Post
The gray wire is now on a direct 12v source
I still think resistor is the wrong one so there for it sent the incorrect voltage
wanna draw diagram of how this would be the case? Why would higher-resistance resistor send higher voltage than lower-resistance stock one?

Here's how it should be. Everything on grey wire is input signal receiving power through ignition-switch +12v source (W wire) through resistor. Other end of grey wire at ignitor is input only, it's not sending out +12v on grey wire.... or is it?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
Yes after the swap it acted like there was no resister at all. As far as I know the wiring looks stock and the gray wire is across from one another. I will pick up a resister tomorrow throw that in and see what happens.
This would confirm that grey-wire on ignition-switch is correct anti-theft circuit and is mapped properly to Ignitor's ignition-switch sensing line. Some possible non-stock scenarios:

1. grey wire is fed external +12v somewhere along path (parallel circuit). Inspect grey wire from Ignitor connector and trace all way back to bottom of ignition switch. Is there any additional wires anywhere along path that is feeding it +12v?

2. terminals bridged at connectors between ignition switch and harness. Inspect both sides of connectors between ignition-switch and bike-harness. Verify that ONLY grey wire is connected to terminals on each side and is passed straight-through connectors on each side

3. ignition-switch terminals bridged incorrectly with additional +12v connection to resistor output terminal. This may be possible, however, his earlier test with +6.9v on output terminal of resistor confirms that output power is only delivered through resistor itself.


Suspect #1 may be situation with grey wire being connected to additional +12v source. Can perform these tests:

4. unsolder grey wire from ignition switch completely (be careful not to disturb resistor). Key ON, measure for voltage at free end of grey wire recently disconnected from ign-switch.

5. disconnect ignition switch connector from bike harness. Re-measure voltage at free-end of grey wire

6. back-probe grey-wire at Ignitor connector and see what voltage is there.

7. re-do earlier test of measuring voltage at resistor input terminal #1 and then at output terminal #2. This should be repeat of earlier test with +6.9v at resistor output terminal #2


We have 2 independent variables here: resistor and wiring. Resistor checks out OK as it has been measure to properly send out +6.9v for anti-theft detection. Problem is now to track down why wiring is not delivering that +6.9v to Ignitor correctly.
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote




Old November 28th, 2021, 07:03 PM   #42
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
wanna draw diagram of how this would be the case?

Here's how it should be:
DannoXYZ if he moves the gray wire from pin 1 over to pin 2 like in the photo where pin 2 was the direct 12v source with key on right ?, ok now where pin 1 should have no volt or ground source load when the key was on right, so if he then left the resistor in same place he there for bypasses the resistor when should have been solider one end of resistor onto pin 2 and other end of the resistor on direct to the gray wire, I'm sure there has to be set min of volt that is need on gray wire for it to function and that 6.9v maybe to low that's my theory.

Maybe neutral or clutch switch
Maybe the side stand
Maybe a bad relay
Maybe a bad pickup coil
He could he could try testing CDI box gray wire see it show the same volt and check the value to be sure that at lease good base on this chart.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cdi.jpg (103.8 KB, 6 views)
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 07:39 PM   #43
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
Lot of good info here. I will do these test tomorrow about isolating the gray wire. I will be picking up resistors as well.

As for the switches and relays and pick up coil they all check out ok and I have spare pick ups and an extra IC box.

I will also test out the ohms on the IC box as well. will get back with you guys about my findings.
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 07:42 PM   #44
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
After looking at the table and diagram for the IC Box has two plug ports. The box on this bike only has one plug. Is this for a different year than the 2009+. I think the previous generation had two plug ports...
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 07:51 PM   #45
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
After looking at the table and diagram for the IC Box the one on this bike only has one plug, this one has two plugs on the box. Is this for a different year than the 2009+. I think the previous generation had two plug ports...
See
https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=254632
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 08:12 PM   #46
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by shspvr View Post
DannoXYZ if he moves the gray wire from pin 1 over to pin 2 like in the photo where pin 2 was the direct 12v source with key on right ?, ok now where pin 1 should have no volt or ground source load when the key was on right, so if he then left the resistor in same place he there for bypasses the resistor when should have been solider one end of resistor onto pin 2 and other end of the resistor on direct to the gray wire, I'm sure there has to be set min of volt that is need on gray wire for it to function and that 6.9v maybe to low that's my theory.
If... #2 was direct 12v source, how could he have measured 6.9v on that terminal? Even more puzzling would be how 6.9v became 12.6v on terminal #1 AFTER it went through 330-ohm resistor?

No, it's other way around. #1 terminal on resistor is input. Confirmed by him measuring +12.6v on that line. #2 terminal is output as confirmed by measuring +6.9v. This shows that resistor is working properly and dropping +12.6v down to 6.9v.

We can calculate how much current is flowing in that circuit by V=IR and plugging in voltage-drop:

12.6v-6.9v = 5.7v drop = I/330-ohms
I = 5.7/330 = 0.017 amp = 17 milli-amps

Then we can play what-if and see what output-voltage would be on resistor output terminal #2 if he was to replace that resistor with factory/OEM 100-ohm resistor:

Vdrop = 0.017a * 100ohms
Vdrop = 1.7v
Vout = 12.6v - 1.7v = 10.9v output

So voltage at output terminal would be 10.9v if he swaps in 100-ohm resistor. This is actually higher than 10v maximum test for anti-theft detection and bike may not start. Other people have had to install larger resistors to drop voltage below 10v before bike would start (EFI expert Greg737?).

This is NOT power-source line that powers Ignitor, it's purely for theft/hot-wiring detection. There's no minimum required voltage on that line, just maximum allowed. Which is roughly 10v, anything above it on grey-wire will cause Ignitor to refuse starting bike. Now we just have to figure out what's wrong with wiring that it's delivering +12v on that line to Ignitor instead of proper resistor-output of 6.9v.

I suspect someone else got this line confused with power-source and manually attached another +12v line to it after ignition switch.
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 08:28 PM   #47
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by shspvr View Post
I've done that mod on my 2008 new-gen race bike too. I used an earlier guide for pre-1994 ignitors and bike wouldn't start with 2003 ignitor I was using. Had to map anti-theft grey wire from ignition-switch to proper terminal on connector before bike would start.

https://www.ninjette.org/forums/show...83#post1249383
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 08:35 PM   #48
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
If... #2 was direct 12v source, how could he have measured 6.9v on that terminal? Even more puzzling would be how 6.9v became 12.6v on terminal #1 AFTER it went through 330-ohm resistor?

No, it's other way around. #1 terminal on resistor is input. Confirmed by him measuring +12.6v on that line. #2 terminal is output as confirmed by measuring +6.9v. This shows that resistor is working properly and dropping +12.6v down to 6.9v.

We can calculate how much current is flowing in that circuit by V=IR and plugging in voltage-drop:

12.6v-6.9v = 5.7v drop = I/330-ohms
I = 5.7/330 = 0.017 amp = 17 milli-amps

Then we can play what-if and see what output-voltage would be on resistor output terminal #2 if he was to replace that resistor with factory/OEM 100-ohm resistor:

Vdrop = 0.017a * 100ohms
Vdrop = 1.7v
Vout = 12.6v - 1.7v = 10.9v output

So voltage at output terminal would be 10.9v if he swaps in 100-ohm resistor. This is actually higher than 10v maximum test for anti-theft detection and bike may not start. Other people have had to install larger resistors to drop voltage below 10v before bike would start (EFI expert Greg737?).

This is NOT power-source line that powers Ignitor, it's purely for theft/hot-wiring detection. There's no minimum required voltage on that line, just maximum allowed. Which is roughly 10v, anything above it on grey-wire will cause Ignitor to refuse starting bike. Now we just have to figure out what's wrong with wiring that it's delivering +12v on that line to Ignitor instead of proper resistor-output of 6.9v.
Unless there both are actually 12v pin so that would explain why the resistor end up showing 12 volt on both sides but that too end up being a bigger puzzle and if was the case all he had to do was solider one end of resistor onto pin 1 and other end of the resistor direct to the gray wire itself then maybe it will work.

I know some car their dumb detection is the same like Chevy S10 was one them
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 08:47 PM   #49
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by shspvr View Post
Maybe neutral or clutch switch
Maybe the side stand
Maybe a bad relay
Maybe a bad pickup coil
He could he could try testing CDI box gray wire see it show the same volt and check the value to be sure that at lease good base on this chart.
Nah, any problems with neutral, clutch, side-stand switches, or relay and starter won't crank at all. He's already tested and swapped in 3x perfectly good pickup-coils. No need to shotgun pile of new parts to replace perfectly working parts because nothing will change.

Problem has already been identified, too much voltage on grey wire going into Ignitor. Now just matter of tracking down cause of that high-voltage.

Additional test some people have done is cut grey wire and attach 9v battery directly to section going to Ignitor (9v battery ground to chassis-ground). This test will confirm for sure that too much voltage on grey wire from ignition-switch is problem. But... for same amount of effort, he can just restore to factory wiring and rectify problem permanently.
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 08:57 PM   #50
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by shspvr View Post
Unless there both are actually 12v pin so that would explain why the resistor end up showing 12 volt on both sides but that too end up being a bigger puzzle and if was the case all he had to do was solider one end of resistor onto pin 1 and other end of the resistor direct to the gray wire itself then maybe it will work.
That's theoretical case that doesn't match imperical data gathered here. He has already measured input of +12.6v and output of +6.9v across resistor. So we know for sure #1 input +12.6v gets lowered to 6.9v on output terminal #2. This also confirms #2 is not additional/parallel +12 power source.

Yes, he can disconnect #2 output of resistor from ign-switch terminal (similar to diagram I posted above). However, we already know #2 output terminal is not powered, so isolating it won't change anything.

You're right on about grey wire being powered. I suspect someone's tied an additional +12v power wire to grey wire somewhere after ignition switch. Now it's just matter of tracking that sucker down and disconnecting it!
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old November 28th, 2021, 10:02 PM   #51
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
That's theoretical case that doesn't match imperical data gathered here. He has already measured input of +12.6v and output of +6.9v across resistor. So we know for sure #1 input +12.6v gets lowered to 6.9v on output terminal #2. This also confirms #2 is not additional/parallel +12 power source.

Yes, he can disconnect #2 output of resistor from ign-switch terminal (similar to diagram I posted above). However, we already know #2 output terminal is not powered, so isolating it won't change anything.

You're right on about grey wire being powered. I suspect someone's tied an additional +12v power wire to grey wire somewhere after ignition switch. Now it's just matter of tracking that sucker down and disconnecting it!
So there always 12v at other end going to gray wire at CDI box is self, with his bike when there should be no 12v on gray wire is removed from the key switch pin well then there has to be some kind hidden switch or shorted wiring some where

Last futzed with by shspvr; November 29th, 2021 at 03:19 AM.
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 06:14 AM   #52
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
My resisters are coming in today so I will give feedback once I get it installed and see what the voltage is at the igniter. fingers crossed.
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 11:56 AM   #53
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
So just put in a resister pretty close to the plug of the igniter AND…still 12V how is this possible? Have any of you had this issue?
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:12 PM   #54
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
Here is the resister in-line.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 22AEC31E-ABB1-479A-BFA2-D8D2C846439A.jpg (80.0 KB, 6 views)
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:15 PM   #55
Triple Jim
Guy Who Enjoys Riding
 
Triple Jim's Avatar
 
Name: Jim
Location: North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2016

Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250

Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16
Have you verified that the wire is unbroken all the way to the other end by using a meter to test its continuity? Full voltage means no current is being drawn on that wire, so either the wire is broken or the thing that should be using that signal is not.
Triple Jim is online now   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:28 PM   #56
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
Yes, has continuity and previously I checked voltage with key on and got 12V key off and nothing so the wire is intact
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:28 PM   #57
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
Here is the resister in-line.
Is the ohm reading with resistor?.
do a simple light test that check the voltage
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:32 PM   #58
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
I did that too, and got 101ohms
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:36 PM   #59
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
I did that too, and got 101ohms
Unsolder gray leading to CDI and their any voltage on it by itself?.
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:47 PM   #60
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
At the ignition switch?
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:56 PM   #61
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
No voltage when I undid the wire…so it seems like the resister does not drop voltage…
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 12:57 PM   #62
Triple Jim
Guy Who Enjoys Riding
 
Triple Jim's Avatar
 
Name: Jim
Location: North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2016

Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250

Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
No voltage when I undid the wire…so it seems like the resister does not drop voltage…
That means, as I said above, that no current is being drawn by the ignitor.
Triple Jim is online now   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 01:00 PM   #63
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
The igniter is not plugged in, I can’t test the voltage when it’s plugged in unless I back probe it but that shouldn’t matter because it’s getting full voltage when it’s unplugged
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 01:07 PM   #64
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
The igniter is not plugged in, I can’t test the voltage when it’s plugged in unless I back probe it but that shouldn’t matter because it’s getting full voltage when it’s unplugged
Hook up ignitor that a must infact all wire need be hook for it work
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 01:08 PM   #65
Triple Jim
Guy Who Enjoys Riding
 
Triple Jim's Avatar
 
Name: Jim
Location: North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2016

Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250

Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16
A resistor will always show full voltage unless there is a load on it such as the ignitor.

I haven't been through this myself, but I've seen the problem come up often. I found this link:
https://forums.ninja250.org/posting....w&t=5252&tro=1

And in that link explaining how to connect a replacement switch:

- Connect White to White
- Connect Red to Red
- Connect Brown to Brown
- Jump Brown to Grey with the resistor
- Connect OSL Blue or Red/Blue to Blue or Red/Blue on NSL
Triple Jim is online now   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 01:33 PM   #66
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
The igniter is not plugged in, I can’t test the voltage when it’s plugged in unless I back probe it but that shouldn’t matter because it’s getting full voltage when it’s unplugged
This what you should see with key on
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 11.jpg (104.1 KB, 9 views)
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 05:35 PM   #67
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
The igniter is not plugged in, I can’t test the voltage when it’s plugged in unless I back probe it but that shouldn’t matter because it’s getting full voltage when it’s unplugged
Everything must be plugged in for resistor to drop voltage. It's current flow that drops voltage. Plug everything back in and back-probe grey-wire terminal at Ignitor connector. What do you measure?
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 05:42 PM   #68
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
Yes after the swap it acted like there was no resister at all. As far as I know the wiring looks stock and the gray wire is across from one another. I will pick up a resister tomorrow throw that in and see what happens.
On this earlier test after you moved grey wire at ignition-switch from resistor input terminal #1 to resistor output terminal #2, how did you measure voltage on grey wire @ Ignitor connector? With connector unplugged? Or plugged into ignitor?

Last futzed with by DannoXYZ; December 3rd, 2021 at 02:21 AM.
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 2nd, 2021, 07:49 PM   #69
Triple Jim
Guy Who Enjoys Riding
 
Triple Jim's Avatar
 
Name: Jim
Location: North Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2016

Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250

Posts: A lot.
MOTM - Oct '18, Aug '17, Aug '16
Quote:
Originally Posted by DannoXYZ View Post
Everything must be plugged in for resistor to drop voltage. It's current flow that drops voltage.
Why didn't I think of that?
Triple Jim is online now   Reply With Quote


Old December 3rd, 2021, 07:01 AM   #70
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
Yes, I was doing this with it unplugged the whole time. I will plug it in and see if I get the proper reading. thank you all for the input.
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 3rd, 2021, 12:36 PM   #71
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
So good news, after plugging in the exciter, we have spark!! Thank you all for the help I know each of you didn't have to put in this effort but I greatly appreciate everyne of you that worked thru this with me.
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 3rd, 2021, 01:45 PM   #72
shspvr
ninjette.org guru
 
Name: Anthony
Location: Vinita, Ok
Join Date: Sep 2021

Motorcycle(s): 07 Kawasaki Ninja 250

Posts: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
So good news, after plugging in the exciter, we have spark!! Thank you all for the help I know each of you didn't have to put in this effort but I greatly appreciate everyne of you that worked thru this with me.
You're welcome now go have fun
shspvr is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 3rd, 2021, 04:39 PM   #73
DannoXYZ
ninjette.org certified postwhore
 
Name: AKA JacRyann
Location: Mesa, AZ
Join Date: Dec 2011

Motorcycle(s): CB125T CBR250R-MC19 CBR250RR-MC22 NSR350R-MC21 VF500F CBR600RR SFV650 VFR750F R1M ST1300PA Valkyrie-F6C

Posts: A lot.
MOTY - 2018, MOTM - Nov '17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
Yes, I was doing this with it unplugged the whole time. I will plug it in and see if I get the proper reading. thank you all for the input.
What was final voltage-reading on grey-wire right where it enters connector after going through both original 330-ohm and your additional 100-ohm resistor? Was it around 5.29v?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeepster1000 View Post
So good news, after plugging in the exciter, we have spark!! Thank you all for the help I know each of you didn't have to put in this effort but I greatly appreciate everyne of you that worked thru this with me.
Woohooo!!!! Good job!!!
DannoXYZ is offline   Reply With Quote


Old December 3rd, 2021, 06:48 PM   #74
Jeepster1000
ninjette.org member
 
Name: Neil
Location: Grand rapids
Join Date: Nov 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki ninja 250

Posts: 35
Yes, it was around 5.5V
Jeepster1000 is offline   Reply With Quote


1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
Old December 5th, 2021, 11:36 PM   #75
Bob KellyIII
Retired motorcycle Mc.
 
Bob KellyIII's Avatar
 
Name: Robert
Location: Weed, California.
Join Date: Jul 2021

Motorcycle(s): 2012 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, 2021 CSC TT250, 1977 Triumph Bonneville 750cc,2001 Honda XR650L.

Posts: A lot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Jim View Post
Why didn't I think of that?
LOL... You did Jim ! good work you guys !
this took inside knowledge to figure it out and he was lucky to have you fell'as on his side.... WELL DONE you all get a cookie !
Bob......
__________________________________________________
Its too late when you've gone too far !
Bob KellyIII is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No spark on 2004 ninja 250 after aftermarket ignition Ihasnoclue 1986 - 2007 Ninja 250R Tech Talk 1 October 6th, 2021 04:12 PM
No Spark!!! 2009 Ninja 250 EX250 Fuel Injected ghutcheson 2008 - 2012 Ninja 250R Tech Talk 8 April 22nd, 2015 01:44 PM
no spark need help 2004 ninja 250 bond343 1986 - 2007 Ninja 250R Tech Talk 8 August 29th, 2013 05:03 AM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Motorcycle Safety Foundation

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:54 AM.


Website uptime monitoring Host-tracker.com
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Except where otherwise noted, all site contents are © Copyright 2022 ninjette.org, All rights reserved.