Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Front

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:19 PM

What do you guys think? Is it worth going to a 120 in order to get the sexiness that is this tire? I'm thinking of running the Supercorsa front a rosso 2 rear.

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 10:35 PM

Don't your tires work fine?

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:43 PM

Yea but...

that one is stickier...

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 10:44 PM

Besides slower steering and less change in your pocket, what would you gain over the Rosso II?

cuz · November 29th, 2012, 10:45 PM

I thought they had 110 for it... yea know some of track 250s that run this set up

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker

Besides slower steering and less change in your pocket, what would you gain over the Rosso II?

It is apparently a much stickier tire, even better than the Rosso 2. If it means I'm that less likely to **** up and lose the front then I'd like to get it but I really don't want a 120 on there since it will make the flickability lamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuz

I thought they had 110 for it... yea lots of track 250s run that set up

I couldn't find a 110. Thats what I've read though

rusninja · November 29th, 2012, 10:49 PM

Do it and tell me how it is

Jono · November 29th, 2012, 10:51 PM

Better tires only hide your mistakes.

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 10:51 PM

I think your efforts would be better spent on Rosso IIs and then dialing in your front suspension for your weight.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:52 PM

Oh hey I found a 110, not a lot of people seem to carry it

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Better tires only hide your mistakes.

I'd prefer my mistakes to be hidden than end up in a ditch

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:54 PM

Hmm, should I?

http://www.mphbikes.com/pirelli-diab...0-70-17-front/

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I'd prefer my mistakes to be hidden than end up in a ditch

Watched twist of the wrist yet?

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Better tires only hide your mistakes.

I call BS.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker

Watched twist of the wrist yet?

Its on my **** to get done list

menikmati · November 29th, 2012, 10:57 PM

Quite a beefy tire, if you feel that it's worth the change from your DR2's then go for it I guess?

cuz · November 29th, 2012, 10:57 PM

a quick Google search does wonders

Da cheapest 1 i found im sure there's a better deal out there
http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetai...79/SKU/1197686

rusninja · November 29th, 2012, 10:57 PM

http://www.pirelli.com/tire/us/en/mo...subtype%3Droad the super sp's come in 110/70 and 150/60 :S

cuz · November 29th, 2012, 10:59 PM

FYI

There are different compounds

Jono · November 29th, 2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

I call BS.

It's very true for automotive racing and I am guessing it would be true for motorcycles as well.

I autocrossed my car for a year before I owned my bike. I learned quite a bit about how tires change the car. With super grippy tires you can get away with many mistakes but with okay tires you really have to be a good driver to get the car to do what you want it to do. You have to be super smooth with crappy tires (not saying you shouldn't be smooth with super grippy tires) but once YOU can push the limits of a car with crappy tire then once you move up to grippy tires you will be able to go much faster than someone who skipped the basics and started with the most expensive grippy tires they wanted.

I am tired am probably not being clear with my thoughts.

menikmati · November 29th, 2012, 11:07 PM

Seems like Sean is comprised entirely of straight cash, homey.

If so, buy it and sell your DR2?

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuz

FYI

There are different compounds

O.o?

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

It's very true for automotive racing and I am guessing it would be true for motorcycles as well.

...

I am tired am probably not being clear with my thoughts.

no, I get that; you gotta get good on a bad setup before you can really be good on a good setup. It's the same idea as starting out on a ninja 250 to learn to carry more corner speed and less straight speed, or starting with Sora components on your road bike instead of Ultegra.

...but to play devil's advocate:

The Dunrocks suck. They slide. They don't turn in quickly at all. They don't stay stable mid-lean. They're vague when pushed at all. They generally are good at nothing except keeping the rim off the ground.

now compare that to BT45's, or Diablo scooters. They flick over quickly. They stay planted and stable mid-lean. They don't feel slick. They get up to temp quickly and stay sticky.

If anything, stickier tires show off my problems more, because they allow the bike to follow my every bad input and show me where I'm going wrong, whether that's too much bar input while shifting my weight, or just a bad line in general (I'm guilty of both).

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by choneofakind

(I'm guilty of both).

Aren't we all?

Jono · November 29th, 2012, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

...but to play devil's advocate:

The Dunrocks suck. They slide. They don't turn in quickly at all. They don't stay stable mid-lean. They're vague when pushed at all. They generally are good at nothing except keeping the rim off the ground.

now compare that to BT45's, or Diablo scooters. They flick over quickly. They stay planted and stable mid-lean. They don't feel slick. They get up to temp quickly and stay sticky.

If anything, stickier tires show off my problems more, because they allow the bike to follow my every bad input and show me where I'm going wrong, whether that's too much bar input while shifting my weight, or just a bad line in general (I'm guilty of both).

I see what you're saying there. I never experienced the dunrocks. I have BT45s on my ninja and Roadwinners on the KLX. Side note: I don't get why people bad mouth the Roadwinners, they work fine for the street. On neither bike do I have issues with the tires. If the tires were to slip for any reason it would be because of me making a mistake.

But Jiggles has decent tires. DR2's. He doesn't NEED anything with more grip. He is just scared he is going to lowside for some reason.

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

I see what you're saying there. I never experienced the dunrocks. I have BT45s on my ninja and Roadwinners on the KLX. Side note: I don't get why people bad mouth the Roadwinners, they work fine for the street. On neither bike do I have issues with the tires. If the tires were to slip for any reason it would be because of me making a mistake.

The dunrocks are terrible. Count yourself lucky.

The roadwinners (from the 2 times I've ridden on them) are alright. Nothing super confidence inspiring, but with so many better options out there, I would never buy a set.

Jiggs, get faster first

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

I see what you're saying there. I never experienced the dunrocks. I have BT45s on my ninja and Roadwinners on the KLX. Side note: I don't get why people bad mouth the Roadwinners, they work fine for the street. On neither bike do I have issues with the tires. If the tires were to slip for any reason it would be because of me making a mistake.

But Jiggles has decent tires. DR2's. He doesn't NEED anything with more grip. He is just scared he is going to lowside for some reason.

But, why would I not want a tire with MORE grip!? That's just crazy!

The roadwinners are totally fine for the street, I never had a problem with them and I scrubbed the strips off them too.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by choneofakind

The dunrocks are terrible. Count yourself lucky.

The roadwinners (from the 2 times I've ridden on them) are alright. Nothing super confidence inspiring, but with so many better options out there, I would never buy a set.

Jiggs, get faster first

I went pretty fast at button willow!

I got a 2.38, I'll bet the next time I'm out there I can break 2.30

the 250 lap record is 2.08

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

But, why would I not want a tire with MORE grip!? That's just crazy!

The roadwinners are totally fine for the street, I never had a problem with them and I scrubbed the strips off them too.

Read the book, or watch the movie, and it will help call those fears.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:40 PM

I'll still want the stickiest tires.

Can we get a velcro track?

geeker · November 29th, 2012, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I'll still want the stickiest tires.

Can we get a velcro track?

The sound would be deafening on the never ending Velcro strip.

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker

The sound would be deafening on the never ending Velcro strip.

You have never heard @Nemesis's bike

choneofakind · November 29th, 2012, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I got a 2.38

...

the 250 lap record is 2.08

Watch out Rexbo. Here comes Jiggs

Trailerboy531 · November 29th, 2012, 11:54 PM

Also. I have the SC2 120 front. It is quite sticky/awesome. However, they are hard to get because they don't usually ship to the west coast. When I have to get a new front it will be a Diablo Rosso II. NOT because I don't like the Supercorsa, I think it's great. I'm not at a point where I think I'd be able to tell a great difference between the two, and wont be there for a while. I know the SC2 is better, but I don't need it yet, I'm just not there. Neither are you. Stick with the Diablo Rosso IIs, you have more to work on first, like butt to seat removal :P

Jiggles · November 29th, 2012, 11:56 PM

Too late I ordered one hahahaha. It's going on the next front tire replacement, should be a few thousand miles more or about 4-5 more trackdays

Trailerboy531 · November 29th, 2012, 11:59 PM

Steve has used his SC2 front and DR2s for the whole race season. I think you have more than 6-7 Track days on yours... Save your money, this will get more expensive! :P

choneofakind · November 30th, 2012, 12:02 AM

Looks like I don't need to worry about replacing mine before my next track day then!

I'll likely buy a new set and bring them with me though, just in case.

Jono · November 30th, 2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I went pretty fast at button willow!

I got a 2.38, I'll bet the next time I'm out there I can break 2.30

the 250 lap record is 2.08

Hahaha.You do realize 30 seconds is a huge amount of time in racing.

Maybe you will be faster once you start shifting gears more often! Oh and I am sure that new tire will make you like 10 seconds faster.

Jiggles · November 30th, 2012, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Maybe you will be faster once you start shifting gears more often! Oh and I am sure that new tire will make you like 10 seconds faster.

I'm willing to place a bet

The only thing that will have changed is the front tire

cuz · November 30th, 2012, 02:11 AM

That's a fast tire need to keep the speed up (so it can work to it's potential)

GL

November 29th, 2012, 10:19 PM	#1
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa Front What do you guys think? Is it worth going to a 120 in order to get the sexiness that is this tire? I'm thinking of running the Supercorsa front a rosso 2 rear. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 10:43 PM	#3
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Yea but... that one is stickier... __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 10:45 PM	#5
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	I thought they had 110 for it... yea know some of track 250s that run this set up __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

November 29th, 2012, 10:49 PM	#7
rusninja Ninjette wanabe :D Name: Ruslan Location: San Jose Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): white 300 :D Posts: A lot.	Do it and tell me how it is __________________________________________________ VROOOM vrooom >.>

November 29th, 2012, 10:52 PM	#10
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Oh hey I found a 110, not a lot of people seem to carry it __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 10:35 PM	#2
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Don't your tires work fine?

November 29th, 2012, 10:44 PM	#4
geeker ninjette.org guru Name: Richie Location: Arkansas Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2022 Honda CRF300L Rally, 2015 Ninja ZX6R 636, 2014 Ninja 1000, 2013 Ninja 300 (sold), 2011 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 479	Besides slower steering and less change in your pocket, what would you gain over the Rosso II?

November 29th, 2012, 10:51 PM	#8
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Better tires only hide your mistakes.

November 29th, 2012, 10:54 PM	#12
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Hmm, should I? http://www.mphbikes.com/pirelli-diab...0-70-17-front/ __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 10:57 PM	#16
menikmati crash 250, get supersport Name: Richard Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R SE (Sold 6/9/14), 2009 ZX-6R (Sold 6/25/14), Subaru BRZ Posts: A lot.	Quite a beefy tire, if you feel that it's worth the change from your DR2's then go for it I guess? __________________________________________________

November 29th, 2012, 10:59 PM	#19
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	FYI There are different compounds __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

November 29th, 2012, 11:07 PM	#21
menikmati crash 250, get supersport Name: Richard Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: Apr 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250R SE (Sold 6/9/14), 2009 ZX-6R (Sold 6/25/14), Subaru BRZ Posts: A lot.	Seems like Sean is comprised entirely of straight cash, homey. If so, buy it and sell your DR2? __________________________________________________

November 29th, 2012, 11:40 PM	#30
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I'll still want the stickiest tires. Can we get a velcro track? __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 11:54 PM	#34
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Also. I have the SC2 120 front. It is quite sticky/awesome. However, they are hard to get because they don't usually ship to the west coast. When I have to get a new front it will be a Diablo Rosso II. NOT because I don't like the Supercorsa, I think it's great. I'm not at a point where I think I'd be able to tell a great difference between the two, and wont be there for a while. I know the SC2 is better, but I don't need it yet, I'm just not there. Neither are you. Stick with the Diablo Rosso IIs, you have more to work on first, like butt to seat removal :P __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

November 29th, 2012, 11:56 PM	#35
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Too late I ordered one hahahaha. It's going on the next front tire replacement, should be a few thousand miles more or about 4-5 more trackdays __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 29th, 2012, 11:59 PM	#36
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Steve has used his SC2 front and DR2s for the whole race season. I think you have more than 6-7 Track days on yours... Save your money, this will get more expensive! :P __________________________________________________ CVMA #531

November 30th, 2012, 12:02 AM	#37
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Looks like I don't need to worry about replacing mine before my next track day then! I'll likely buy a new set and bring them with me though, just in case.

November 30th, 2012, 02:11 AM	#40
cuz cuz Name: Israel Location: Houston (me) Galveston Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 ninja 250r Posts: A lot.	That's a fast tire need to keep the speed up (so it can work to it's potential) GL __________________________________________________ THE GOOD LIFE

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