global warming cased by humans

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by 80MPHdownhill

100 years is not much in the history of the Earth.

What caused the global warming in 1100 BC? Unregulated caveman fires?

CO2 gas is the fly in the ointment and what is different from what has happened in the last 800,000 years

[Alex]

Originally Posted by subxero

just search research faked, or data fraud, faked.

And these are simply people that completely faked stuff. Does not include people who publish results as fact when they use poor research strategy that has holes in it. These results get proven incorrect further down the road by other researchers who are knowledgable about this particular subject. It happens all the time, sometimes 1 yr later, sometimes 10yrs later. But the question is how many of the incorrect results never get tested because the original people who published it are really the only people who give 2 ****s about that particular research anyway.

again in short, don't believe everything you read.

I'm on board with both of those concepts. The crux of the scientific method is repeatable results, and enough testing to confirm results not only by the original researchers, but in testing down the line as the same theories are poked and prodded in different ways. Some topics might have such limited exposure that it takes quite a bit longer for things to work themselves out. The hot-button examples in the linked article aren't subject to that limitation, with all of them getting a very large amount of scientific attention over the past few decades.

And yes, having enough of a skeptical eye to not take everything you read at face value isn't bad advice. That's not the same thing as the inverse, and instead believing nothing you read.

[Domagoj]

Caused by humans, how is that diffrerent from other "natural" triggers?

Makes me think some of us believe humans are not natural. If we get ourselves extinct or changed by global warming, maybe that's just another step in the evolution process.

Many species went extinct over the long period, and nobody's crying for them. Ones who changed are considered successful.

[voidrider]

Originally Posted by Domagoj

Many species went extinct over the long period, and nobody's crying for them. Ones who changed are considered successful.

Getting off the original topic here, but this comment should be amended.

There are species of sharks that have remained unchanged since before the dinosaurs arose. Finding a niche and dominating it allows 'success' without requiring change.

[subxero]

2 words...... COWS FARTING

[allanoue]

[lgk]

Originally Posted by subxero

2 words...... COWS FARTING

To a crazy person its not too far from the truth.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-501145.html

[subxero]

try to imagine dinosaur farts!! emphasis on the try part

[Alex]

[xSean13]

I lol'd at this whole thread, particularly the evolution part, very comical.

Despite the amount of negative evidence regarding evolution, people somehow still think it's factual. This is why scientists constantly revise their theories and propose new, more broad ones (e.g. concept of a multiverse)", because the evidence points the opposite way.

particularly in regards to there being no fossils of animals or humans between evolutionary stages...which you think there would be at least one considering the supposed millions of years of evolution...there should be an abundance.

I also wonder how trees are found throughout multiple sedimentary layers that are considered to span millions of years...million year old trees, huh?

[voidrider]

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'” - Isaac Asimov

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by xSean13

I lol'd at this whole thread, particularly the evolution part, very comical.

Despite the amount of negative evidence regarding evolution, people somehow still think it's factual. This is why scientists constantly revise their theories and propose new, more broad ones (e.g. concept of a multiverse)", because the evidence points the opposite way.

particularly in regards to there being no fossils of animals or humans between evolutionary stages...which you think there would be at least one considering the supposed millions of years of evolution...there should be an abundance.

I also wonder how trees are found throughout multiple sedimentary layers that are considered to span millions of years...million year old trees, huh?

I find it funny that people can still be so ignorant.

[JohnnyBravo]

So is their a fossil of a guy with a thermometer, or maybe a verse about it in the bible or Koran, maybe the Jewish book? Cause I wanna here from this guy that says dinosaurs were checking the earths temperature and writing it down in English and making graphs an charts

[JohnnyBravo]

I like the poll questions... Y'all in some cults

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

So is their a fossil of a guy with a thermometer, or maybe a verse about it in the bible or Koran, maybe the Jewish book? Cause I wanna here from this guy that says dinosaurs were checking the earths temperature and writing it down in English and making graphs an charts

lol Jewish book? You mean the Torah?

In order to bash religion you need to know about the religions.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

In order to bash religion you need to know about the religions.

I don't think he was primarily bashing religions, he was bashing science in the same breath.

[massacremasses]

Originally Posted by Alex

I don't think he was primarily bashing religions, he was bashing science in the same breath.

I was a little confused by the statement and just noticed the "Jewish book" part. lol

[JohnnyBravo]

I know what the bible and Quran are called, the Torah I had no clue about. Was t really bashing anything, just skeptical about dinosaurs taking the earths temperature and making a graph about it

[Aggrotech]

Originally Posted by Aggrotech

Humans have not caused global warming to start, we're simply contributing to the rate in wich it happens and making it even worse. gg humans.

i always laugh when theres arguments over this nonsense on TV, or when people deny it and say it doesnt exist at all.

No discussion to be had here.
/thread

[lgk]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

I know what the bible and Quran are called, the Torah I had no clue about. Was t really bashing anything, just skeptical about dinosaurs taking the earths temperature and making a graph about it

yea, its pretty much nonsense.

the only fact here is that earth temperature is cyclical and the most influential factors depend on sun and volcanic activity.

compared to either one, human activity is negligible at best.
the only thing AGW has done is fear monger.

its working as designed.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by lgk

yea, its pretty much nonsense.

the only fact here is that earth temperature is cyclical and the most influential factors depend on sun and volcanic activity.

compared to either one, human activity is negligible at best.
the only thing AGW has done is fear monger.

its working as designed.

You say that as if it were the prevailing thought of the scientific community when in fact the reverse is the case, as you know.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by allanoue

You say that as if it were the prevailing thought of the scientific community when in fact the reverse is the case, as you know.

the scientific "community" you mention is no consensus. there are plenty of scientists that disagree with the methods and scandal based on this "research"...

formulated from poor scientific method, the studies you mention hold no weight.
they're worth as much as an ms paint spider with seven legs...

[Alex]

Never let facts get in the way of a juicy conspiracy theory.

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by lgk

the scientific "community" you mention is no consensus. there are plenty of scientists that disagree with the methods and scandal based on this "research"...

formulated from poor scientific method, the studies you mention hold no weight.
they're worth as much as an ms paint spider with seven legs...

[JohnnyBravo]

Al can you pass a tin foil hat this way please??? Haha

I'm with you on this one, I'd rather err on the side of safety, that goes for GMO crops as well!

[lgk]

Originally Posted by allanoue

hey, that's one disney movie i actually liked.

[massacremasses]

Its easier to believe in "conspiracy theories" when its clear someone is profiting from the "problem". Or rather making money by making solutions for the so called "problem".

[JohnnyBravo]

Everyone profits when you try to dirty the planet less conspiracy or no conspiracy

[lgk]

Originally Posted by JohnnyBravo

Everyone profits when you try to dirty the planet less conspiracy or no conspiracy

i wish it were that easy, lol.

[xSean13]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I find it funny that people can still be so ignorant.

Yeah... liberalized agendas in public schooling is the reason people believe these illogical theories as if they are fact. People aren't taught to think anymore.

[Jiggles]

You're shooting yourself in the foot

[MagicMike]

This thread is lol

[lgk]

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Its easier to believe in "conspiracy theories" when its clear someone is profiting from the "problem". Or rather making money by making solutions for the so called "problem".

There's no conspiracy theory, AGW is fake...
The whole thing is an onerous chain to choke parts of the global economy.

the maths dont take into account a large number of small forcings. Also the co2 forcing model cant predict accurate solar/planetary radiance factors. In addition to everything else, the metadata on the thermometers doesnt give confidence to the statisticians I've talked to.

There's other more complex reasons the AGW theory doesn't work, but ill just stop here...