April 3rd, 2020, 03:31 PM | #1 |
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I have a question about registering in CA...
Hello all,
I recently restored my 2007 Ninja 250 that has been sitting for a few years back to working condition. Before I stopped riding it, I did a frame swap because the old frame was about to crack from all the accidents it had lol. Now this bike is salvage so to bring it to restored salvage, they will inspect the VIN on the frame. To circumvent the new VIN, I put the sticker from the old frame over the VIN stamped on the new frame lmao. However, I was dumb and took the bike off non-op at some point to fix it and never did. Fees are currently $951. Not worth it honestly for this old of a bike. However, i am wondering if anyone knows if I can get around these fees by saying its a "new bike." Problem is that the engine # won't match and the frame I bought was also out of state. So not sure how this would even work lol. Granted I can tell them I swapped the frame so I'm not sure if it would be considered a different bike since the VIN isnt the same anymore. Thoughts? |
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April 3rd, 2020, 06:59 PM | #2 |
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Do you still have VIN sticker that matches what's stamped on headtube of frame?
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April 3rd, 2020, 11:36 PM | #3 |
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The frame is essentially the bike because of the VIN. You can't have a frame stamped with a different VIN than what is titled/registered; they will look for the stamp if inspected and the sticker will not be enough. You can't just throw on the new frame and have it replace your current one because it is now a different bike. You would also need clear documentation of how you obtained the parts. I've done a salvage inspection before. They're looking for stolen parts. Trying to pass off your bike like you suggested might not look very good for you.
Using the new frame will instead require the title being transferred to you, as though you bought a new bike. I hope you have all the title and sale paperwork to go with it in order to do that. This would not require the salvage inspection and re-title as that is tied to your cracked frame but may not be as feasible if you purchased the frame as parts without the title.
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April 4th, 2020, 10:44 AM | #4 | |
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April 4th, 2020, 05:46 PM | #5 |
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However, if the VIN sticker does not match what's stamped on headtube, you're going to have an extremely difficult time getting through inspection. Even if you do manage to fool your way through inspection and get it titled, you'll always be at risk for getting bike impounded. Any time you get pulled over, there's chance they'll compare VIN sticker with stamp on headtube. And then it'll get impounded no questions asked. Then burden of proof will be on you to bring documentation to impound-yard to explain why there's two different VINs on one frame... No kidding, this happened to me 30-years ago when I got 2nd VF500 as parts bike and mixed and matched parts. Ended up getting VIN stickers mixed up on frame (removed to paint frame). Cop who pulled me over for loud-exhaust was required to impound bike. On ticket, it said something like "only release to licensed driver with current registration". Since there were two different VINs on bike, I had to have current-registration on both to get out of impound. Only way I could get it out was to go to DMV and pay 5-years back-fees on scrapped bike so that I could prove I own both bikes and their registrations were both paid up. |
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April 4th, 2020, 11:03 PM | #7 | |
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No plates is a quick way to get pulled over so I really wouldn't suggest doing that. Also, while I get not wanting to catch anything from public transit, now would be the worst time to end up in the hospital if you get in an motorcycle accident cuz that's an even better chance of catching something there and you'd be an additional drain on resources. Just something to consider.
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