Now ABS could become an Option

[Somchai]

BMW Motorrad brings out first ever cornering ABS for supersports bike

BMW Motorrad presented the BMW S1000RR in 2009 - not just its first supersports bike but also the first motorcycle of this type to be fitted with ABS. That same year saw the first racing victory by a supersports motorcycle with ABS at the 24-hour race in Barcelona.

Since the introduction of this Race ABS in 2009, BMW Motorrad has offered an ABS tailored specifically to the needs of supersports bikes, providing a significant increase in active braking safety in this segment, too. The function ABS Pro represents a consistent refinement of the Race ABS in that it now enables ABS-supported braking when cornering. ABS Pro is offered as a retrofittable option which can be acquired through BMW Motorrad dealerships and is initially reserved exclusively for the top supersports model in the BMW Motorrad product range, the BMW HP4.

The function was deliberately conceived for use on public roads, where unexpected dangers can always potentially lie in waiting. While the Race ABS in the BMW HP4 already provides a very high degree of safety when braking in a straight line, ABS Pro now goes a step further to offer increased safety when braking on bends as well. Here, ABS Pro prevents the wheels from blocking even when the brakes are applied quickly; this reduces abrupt changes in steering force on shock-braking manoeuvres and stops the motorcycle from rearing up unintentionally.

[Alex]

Yes - it's the same Bosch system that was first released on the KTM Adventure 1290 this year.

[N-m]

...and shall cost an arm and a leg when it needs to be rebuilt.

[TnNinjaGirl]

Is the Premier Class electronics package trickling down to the consumer segment?

[Somchai]

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

Is the Premier Class electronics package trickling down to the consumer segment?

I wouldn't think about that, just compare it with the cars...

[TnNinjaGirl]

What?

[Somchai]

Originally Posted by TnNinjaGirl

What?

...the electronical possibilities of the Premium Class to the rest, at least it's all a question of the price.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by Somchai

...the electronical possibilities of the Premium Class to the rest, at least it's all a question of the price.

What?

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by N-m

...and shall cost an arm and a leg when it needs to be rebuilt.

That's not my concern. My concern is how reliable these systems are and what a happens when they fail when you get used to them.

Here's Marcel Irnie crashing at Laguna Seca after the ABS failed on his S1000RR.

Link to original page on YouTube.

[N-m]

Originally Posted by Bubba

That's not my concern. My concern is how reliable these systems are and what a happens when they fail when you get used to them.

Here's Marcel Irnie crashing at Laguna Seca after the ABS failed on his S1000RR.

We rely on the technology instead of learning to ride and then technology fails. Where does that leave us?

My experience has allowed me to drive about one million miles on ABS in a four wheeler. At any moment I knew how to use ABS to its peak performance, and go even further and lock ABS down. Any conditions at any time with a working ABS system. I demonstrated this numerous times to nonbelievers. While ABS is nice it is a man made device that can and will fail.

We have people riding tens of thousands of miles (SWAG ALERT) on this board w/o ABS and they have in large part done just fine. I think there is also a mentality on this board of pushing oneself to get even better and use the motorcycle to an even higher level of performance. Higher levels of performance are being sought from all systems contained on whatever motorcycle we happen to be riding, ABS equipped or not.

My interest in the EX250F was due in large part to the cheap price associated with its purchase and ownership. I love Suburbans and cheap vehicles. New Suburbans are now so expensive they will not last long enough to become cheap before completely doing down hill like the late 90's models are today. Ad ABS to a Ninja and it will have to climb in costs. Those initial costs will drive costs up on the tail end or cheap or used users.

With the above thoughts in mind I have the following questions:

1. Is it being used as a crutch by many?
2. Isn't the demand for safety in our society really wasted breath when dealing with this industry?
3. Does one need it to survive?

[Hero Danny]

I heard ABS weighs a lot.

[N-m]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I heard ABS weighs a lot.

It does relative to the '95 GS I have. Many pull it once it breaks down due to the cost of repairs and weight.

[c-dog]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I heard ABS weighs a lot.

It adds 4lbs to my 300. Not too bad for safer braking in the rain.

I don't even notice it's there as far as weight or function. I forced it too work a few times to test it out. It's interesting.

The more complicated ABS might weigh more.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Bubba

That's not my concern. My concern is how reliable these systems are and what a happens when they fail when you get used to them.

Here's Marcel Irnie crashing at Laguna Seca after the ABS failed on his S1000RR.

That's not Laguna Seca, and he didn't crash due to ABS. He crashed due to his brakes failing because a part fell out. Quoted from the video description:

Cause of accident: Caliper brake-pad pin fell out, allowing one of the four brake pads to fall out on the back straight.

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

I heard ABS weighs a lot.

It's only a few pounds on most modern systems (less than 5). The heaviest modern system seems to be Honda's C-ABS on their 600 & 1000, at around 20 pounds.

[Hero Danny]

Originally Posted by Alex

It's only a few pounds on most modern systems (less than 5). The heaviest modern system seems to be Honda's C-ABS on their 600 & 1000, at around 20 pounds.

Yeah, that's what it was the honda CBR 1000rr

I believe the ABS added about 20+ lbs