anyone go from scorpion to shoei?

rusninja · October 30th, 2012, 05:04 PM

I have a ex500 size to big for me so i order a rf1100 in small

will the extra money be worth the helmet? Should be coming soon

krolinked · October 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM

If it doesnt fit right, return it and get a suomy!

I switched from a scorpion 500 as well and Absolutely love my suomy.

The quality and fit to my head is the best i've had yet.

Lychee · October 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM

YES. If you have the right size the fit is incredible, for my head shape at least. Although having a drop down sunvisor would be nice.

alex.s · October 30th, 2012, 05:11 PM

i had a scorpion exo1000 and an hjc cl-16 before i got my shoei rf1100... its a night and day difference. the scorpion and hjc felt cheap, poorly made, loud, heavy, smelled funny (scorpion uses "chocolate" scented glue but it smells like really cheap chocolate)... venting is about the same. all of them have removable pads which make washing easy. my shoei has been the most comfortable helmet i've owned so far.

menikmati · October 31st, 2012, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i had a scorpion exo1000 and an hjc cl-16 before i got my shoei rf1100... its a night and day difference. the scorpion and hjc felt cheap, poorly made, loud, heavy, smelled funny (scorpion uses "chocolate" scented glue but it smells like really cheap chocolate)... venting is about the same. all of them have removable pads which make washing easy. my shoei has been the most comfortable helmet i've owned so far.

I thought maybe it was just my helmet or the box it was packed in but that smell gave me headaches and I noticed the extra weight compared to my Shoei. I tried on the RF-1100 at my local Cycle Gear and knew the fit was perfect for my head.

I do keep my EXO-1000 for a spare helmet, though.

Jiggles · October 31st, 2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

i had a scorpion exo1000 and an hjc cl-16 before i got my shoei rf1100... its a night and day difference. the scorpion and hjc felt cheap, poorly made, loud, heavy, smelled funny (scorpion uses "chocolate" scented glue but it smells like really cheap chocolate)... venting is about the same. all of them have removable pads which make washing easy. my shoei has been the most comfortable helmet i've owned so far.

You wash gear?

choneofakind · October 31st, 2012, 09:16 PM

You don't wash at least the helmet liners??

Jiggles · October 31st, 2012, 09:59 PM

I don't wash anything.

My stink is yummy

alex.s · November 1st, 2012, 10:31 AM

if i sweat in it a bunch i'll wash it. otherwise it makes my hair sticky. though i'm sure jiggles' hair is sticky for other reasons

gwilo · November 1st, 2012, 11:51 AM

The Scorpion are great helment

EXO 500 one of the best $ 250 helmets

EXO 1000 one of the best $ 350 helmets

Shoei rf1100 good to average $ 500 helmet

For the money Scorpion are excellent and for twice the money the Shoei better be good. You can not compare them side by side against each other.

tirwin00 · November 1st, 2012, 01:44 PM

I also traded in my Scorpion for an RF1100 and it is like night and day. The Scorpion is meant for a different head shape than I have which I found out after I wore it for a week and I started getting serious headaches. The Shoei is a million times more comfortable

rjones91 · November 2nd, 2012, 12:45 PM

Motorcyclegear.com has a sale on Shoei helmets as low as $294.00 Just an FYI

Lychee · November 2nd, 2012, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwilo

The Scorpion are great helment

EXO 500 one of the best $ 250 helmets

EXO 1000 one of the best $ 350 helmets

Shoei rf1100 good to average $ 500 helmet

For the money Scorpion are excellent and for twice the money the Shoei better be good. You can not compare them side by side against each other.

False.

gwilo · November 11th, 2012, 10:07 PM

What part is false?

Are Shoei helmets crap?

jman511115 · November 18th, 2012, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

False.

Got my Exo 1000 for $99 bucks, and it's the best purchase I've ever made.

Lychee · November 18th, 2012, 09:36 PM

@gwilo
What is true is that the scorpion is a great helmet. The rest is false. To start the prices are false. Try a range. The Shoei can be had for less than $500. The whole "one of the best" / "good to average" general quality labeling is ridiculous as the "measure" is non quantifiable and highly untestable. You can indeed compare them side by side if you pick more realistic measures that can actually be compared.

Here are some examples:
-fit to shape of intended rider's head
-weight
-noise transmission
-degrees of vision vertical/horizontal
-existance of a sun visor
-existance of graphics
-price (range)

I paid 350 for my shoei rf1100 w/graphics. I guess that would make it better than a exo 1000 at $350, (at least for my head shape) It weighs less and transmits less (wind) noise. I see quite a lot, but there is no sun visor.

@jman511115, congratulations on your purchase, I am sure it works for you.

lgk · November 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM

went from hjc to bell to shoei.

i could easily tell the difference in quality, the shoei had less wind noise, and my neck felt better after every ride.

the shoei is well worth the $400 price tag to me.

the only other helmet i would want to try is an XR1-R.

tooblekain · November 18th, 2012, 10:50 PM

The EXO-1000 is the heaviest helmet out there in the Scorpion lineup. Its more of a sport-touring helmet.

My Scoripion EXO-700 is on par with my Shoei RF1000 I had.

My Scorpion EXO-700 will probably be my track helmet for a short time since the Shoei X-11 I had got pretty trashed from my last crash.

gwilo · November 19th, 2012, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

@gwilo
What is true is that the scorpion is a great helmet. The rest is false. To start the prices are false. Try a range. The Shoei can be had for less than $500. The whole "one of the best" / "good to average" general quality labeling is ridiculous as the "measure" is non quantifiable and highly untestable. You can indeed compare them side by side if you pick more realistic measures that can actually be compared.

Here are some examples:
-fit to shape of intended rider's head
-weight
-noise transmission
-degrees of vision vertical/horizontal
-existance of a sun visor
-existance of graphics
-price (range)

I paid 350 for my shoei rf1100 w/graphics. I guess that would make it better than a exo 1000 at $350, (at least for my head shape) It weighs less and transmits less (wind) noise. I see quite a lot, but there is no sun visor.

@jman511115, congratulations on your purchase, I am sure it works for you.

Price are full retail that is how you compare not on sale or discounted prices

i.e. the Scorpion exo 1000 is now sub $ 100 which makes it the best under $ 100 helmet

Any helmet that has been in inventory over two years should sell for $ 100 as there is only 1 season left it it.

Also a perfect fitting EXO 1000 is a far better helmet that a Shoei that does not fit..

We can argue all day about this.

Of all the major name brands buy what fits in your price range but do not cheap out.

Lychee · November 19th, 2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwilo

We can argue all day about this.

Truth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwilo

Of all the major name brands buy what fits your head best and is in your price range but do not cheap out.

Fixed

gwilo · November 19th, 2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lychee

Truth.

Fixed

Agree with your fix

October 30th, 2012, 05:04 PM	#1
rusninja Ninjette wanabe :D Name: Ruslan Location: San Jose Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): white 300 :D Posts: A lot.	anyone go from scorpion to shoei? I have a ex500 size to big for me so i order a rf1100 in small will the extra money be worth the helmet? Should be coming soon __________________________________________________ VROOOM vrooom >.>

October 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM	#2
krolinked Nerd Name: Chris Location: Tujunga Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ducati Hyperstrada Posts: 672	If it doesnt fit right, return it and get a suomy! I switched from a scorpion 500 as well and Absolutely love my suomy. The quality and fit to my head is the best i've had yet. __________________________________________________ It doesn't LOOK that steep. But you can go first...

October 30th, 2012, 05:11 PM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	i had a scorpion exo1000 and an hjc cl-16 before i got my shoei rf1100... its a night and day difference. the scorpion and hjc felt cheap, poorly made, loud, heavy, smelled funny (scorpion uses "chocolate" scented glue but it smells like really cheap chocolate)... venting is about the same. all of them have removable pads which make washing easy. my shoei has been the most comfortable helmet i've owned so far. __________________________________________________

October 31st, 2012, 09:59 PM	#8
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I don't wash anything. My stink is yummy __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

November 1st, 2012, 10:31 AM	#9
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	if i sweat in it a bunch i'll wash it. otherwise it makes my hair sticky. though i'm sure jiggles' hair is sticky for other reasons __________________________________________________

October 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM	#3
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	YES. If you have the right size the fit is incredible, for my head shape at least. Although having a drop down sunvisor would be nice.

October 31st, 2012, 09:16 PM	#7
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	You don't wash at least the helmet liners??

November 1st, 2012, 11:51 AM	#10
gwilo ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Vancouver Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): '05 Warrior 1700 , '09 Aprilia Mana 850, Ninja 250 still looking Posts: 74	The Scorpion are great helment EXO 500 one of the best $ 250 helmets EXO 1000 one of the best $ 350 helmets Shoei rf1100 good to average $ 500 helmet For the money Scorpion are excellent and for twice the money the Shoei better be good. You can not compare them side by side against each other. __________________________________________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson-

November 1st, 2012, 01:44 PM	#11
tirwin00 ninjette.org newbie Name: Tracy Location: Calgary Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 2010 Posts: 4	I also traded in my Scorpion for an RF1100 and it is like night and day. The Scorpion is meant for a different head shape than I have which I found out after I wore it for a week and I started getting serious headaches. The Shoei is a million times more comfortable

November 2nd, 2012, 12:45 PM	#12
rjones91 Pro Newbie Name: Shanii Location: N. Florida Join Date: Feb 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Honda CBR 250r......2007 Ninja 250R (sold) Posts: 138	Motorcyclegear.com has a sale on Shoei helmets as low as $294.00 Just an FYI

November 11th, 2012, 10:07 PM	#14
gwilo ninjette.org member Name: John Location: Vancouver Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): '05 Warrior 1700 , '09 Aprilia Mana 850, Ninja 250 still looking Posts: 74	What part is false? Are Shoei helmets crap? __________________________________________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson-

November 18th, 2012, 09:36 PM	#16
Lychee sail away Name: Jon Location: San Jose Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): gixxer (sold), ninjette (upgrade!) Posts: 964 Blog Entries: 8	@gwilo What is true is that the scorpion is a great helmet. The rest is false. To start the prices are false. Try a range. The Shoei can be had for less than $500. The whole "one of the best" / "good to average" general quality labeling is ridiculous as the "measure" is non quantifiable and highly untestable. You can indeed compare them side by side if you pick more realistic measures that can actually be compared. Here are some examples: -fit to shape of intended rider's head -weight -noise transmission -degrees of vision vertical/horizontal -existance of a sun visor -existance of graphics -price (range) I paid 350 for my shoei rf1100 w/graphics. I guess that would make it better than a exo 1000 at $350, (at least for my head shape) It weighs less and transmits less (wind) noise. I see quite a lot, but there is no sun visor. @jman511115, congratulations on your purchase, I am sure it works for you.

November 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM	#17
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	went from hjc to bell to shoei. i could easily tell the difference in quality, the shoei had less wind noise, and my neck felt better after every ride. the shoei is well worth the $400 price tag to me. the only other helmet i would want to try is an XR1-R. __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

November 18th, 2012, 10:50 PM	#18
tooblekain ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: San Diego, CA Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Triumph Bonneville; 2008 Ninja 250r (trackbike) Posts: 748	The EXO-1000 is the heaviest helmet out there in the Scorpion lineup. Its more of a sport-touring helmet. My Scoripion EXO-700 is on par with my Shoei RF1000 I had. My Scorpion EXO-700 will probably be my track helmet for a short time since the Shoei X-11 I had got pretty trashed from my last crash. __________________________________________________ CVMA #312SoCal TrackdaysBigHeadz RacingMotion ProFactory EffexLeatt Brace* Racetech Bell Woodcraft CFMVortexHotbodiesSurface Sun SystemsBrakingLiveWire EnergyFreegun Underwear

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