636 cheaper than a 250!?!

jdoucet93 · January 25th, 2012, 11:23 PM

I feel like this is way too good to be true. But this just showed up on CL. I just sold my truck and paid off my 250 and still have about $4500 left over. This just seems like wayyyyy too good of a deal. As I'm sure some of you have seen in the past, this will be the 3rd bike that i've been interested in on CL. The first one was a scam, second one was a total piece of ****. This one looks to be along the same lines of the 1st try. What do you guys think?

http://lafayette.craigslist.org/mcy/2748522803.html

Jiggles · January 25th, 2012, 11:33 PM

If you can't speak clear english, then its a scam

jdoucet93 · January 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM

Other than terrible punctuation, I didn't see anything really wrong with the post.

Jiggles · January 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM

" I have title in hand will to make a deal cash only though sorry no checks"

jdoucet93 · January 25th, 2012, 11:46 PM

Touché...

Oh well. guess all I can do is call the guy in the morning. Will report back with results.

Mountain Dew · January 26th, 2012, 12:08 AM

Nigeria, murderers, etc.

Trailerboy531 · January 26th, 2012, 01:16 AM

no checks not because he got screwed but because they are traceable.

Also oversized sprocket could mean it was a stunt bike before. Could be lots of underlying damage.

Mountain Dew · January 26th, 2012, 01:26 AM

Also no mirrors, possibly no plate. Avoid like the plague.

Kevin2109 · January 26th, 2012, 10:01 AM

Oh come on people... Calm the **** down

Go take a look at it, who cares if it takes $500 to fix it up? Its still a lot cheaper then any other 636. Olny consider if hey lets you test ride it, feel the clutch, see if it shifts through all the gears, listen to it knocking or if its ticking, check the oil, if its dark black then leave

cbdallas · January 26th, 2012, 10:46 AM

I guess the seller's attitude is what disturbs me. I try to read the person I'm buying from to determine if the bike has ever received a minute's attention. I like a seller who's fanatical about maintenance and cosmetics.

"but its a bike who doesn't drop it..." doesn't exactly give me the warm & fuzzies.

But...I think you should go look at it. It looks really 'dingy' in the pictures, but that could be the camera.

Bosgarage57 · January 26th, 2012, 11:00 AM

Go check it out, but take a friend if you can to watch your back. You never know. If he has clear title (check the VIN from the title, with the one on the frame), and lets you test ride it and seems legit go for it. Bikes are a gamble, sometimes you can buy low and sell high, or bust. If you're looking at keeping it I'd go for it.

jdoucet93 · January 26th, 2012, 11:22 AM

First of all, thank you @Kevin2109 for the first real sensible reply.

Second of all... I just got back from the guys place, He was really cool but unfortunately it was the same story as bike #2 from craigslist. A total pile of ****. I rode the bike and it felt good. But the engine had a strange sound and the transmission was very clunky. Suspecting dirty oil, I asked the guy when the last time he had it changed was. His reply was extremely startling. This is exactly what he said, "The guy I bought it from said he changed it at about 4000 miles. He told me it would be good for another 10000 easy." I almost passed out. This poor bike had 12000 miles on it and had not had an oil change for over 8000 miles! That was the end of the conversation. I told him good luck with the sale and rolled out.

alex.s · January 26th, 2012, 11:31 AM

edit:

just read OPs reply.

for that price, buy it and clean the engine up. it still runs. which means it still has decent compression and its not too far gone that things cant be repaired. take it as a project bike. you could easily get it back in top shape for less than what yoou would pay for one thats already in that shape. just do your own work.

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 11:55 AM

deff check it out, itd be stupid not to!!!

burningscooter · January 26th, 2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

If you can't speak clear english, then its a scam

I am in absolute agreement with this assessment. lol

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 12:02 PM

Thats not fair, how many posts has @Kevin2109 made that we had to correct?

Some people have a harder time with the english language than others....

Kevin2109 · January 26th, 2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

Thats not fair, how many posts has @Kevin2109 made that we had to correct?

Some people have a harder time with the english language than others....

Hahahaha thanks

Trailerboy531 · January 26th, 2012, 12:41 PM

Its mostly important to make sure its not stolen. After that, things can be fixed.

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin2109

Hahahaha thanks

hahaha

just proving my point though. If the dude wants to meet up locally its not a scam. Also it doesnt look like its in good enough shape to be a scam. A lot of variables here, but you wont know **** till you go check it out!

cbdallas · January 26th, 2012, 01:23 PM

His maintenance habits likely carry over to more things than just oil. And while there may be no obvious damage now from running oil that's depleted, it can bring an early doom to bearings, cam lobes, timing chain, etc. Not really a bargain if you consider a shortened life span.

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 01:34 PM

ok fine dont check it out because it MAY be a bad deal....

Live2ride · January 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM

I like how the guy describes it as a fade from blue to black....there is no fade there, its an "O ****, I screwed up my fairings from crashing my bike and replaced them with miscolored ones because I'm an idiot".

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 02:05 PM

lol I dont think he meant "fade to black" in the way you think he did... I think he meant the blue fades to black, which is a bad description because it doesnt fade to anything, its blue and black there is no fade to the black. But I am guessing thats what he meant.

EthioKnight · January 26th, 2012, 03:33 PM

You think yours was too good to be true? Well, check this one out and tell me how "too gooder to be true'er" it is

http://mobile.craigslist.org/mcy/2819428886.html

Jiggles · January 26th, 2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EthioKnight

You think yours was too good to be true? Well, check this one out and tell me how "too gooder to be true'er" it is

http://mobile.craigslist.org/mcy/2819428886.html

"For sale is a 2008 Kawasaki ninja zx-6r in great condition."

Grammar check completed.
Accuracy: 100%
Conclusion: Not a scam, send money through western union and ask that the bike be shipped to your house within 6 months.

EsrTek · January 26th, 2012, 04:04 PM

It passes grammar check, so it can't be a scam.. I mean after all... if they can write English perfect it can't be

In seriousness; if you check that out Ethio and it runs, I'll buy it off you for 2k!!

choneofakind · January 26th, 2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

how many posts has @Kevin2109 made that we had to correct?

so far, we're still on one hand. I got my other fingers and my toes ready. I got faith in you @Kevin2109

Felipe the Ant · January 26th, 2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdoucet93

First of all, thank you @Kevin2109 for the first real sensible reply.

Second of all... I just got back from the guys place, He was really cool but unfortunately it was the same story as bike #2 from craigslist. A total pile of ****. I rode the bike and it felt good. But the engine had a strange sound and the transmission was very clunky. Suspecting dirty oil, I asked the guy when the last time he had it changed was. His reply was extremely startling. This is exactly what he said, "The guy I bought it from said he changed it at about 4000 miles. He told me it would be good for another 10000 easy." I almost passed out. This poor bike had 12000 miles on it and had not had an oil change for over 8000 miles! That was the end of the conversation. I told him good luck with the sale and rolled out.

LOL

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdoucet93

First of all, thank you @Kevin2109 for the first real sensible reply.

Second of all... I just got back from the guys place, He was really cool but unfortunately it was the same story as bike #2 from craigslist. A total pile of ****. I rode the bike and it felt good. But the engine had a strange sound and the transmission was very clunky. Suspecting dirty oil, I asked the guy when the last time he had it changed was. His reply was extremely startling. This is exactly what he said, "The guy I bought it from said he changed it at about 4000 miles. He told me it would be good for another 10000 easy." I almost passed out. This poor bike had 12000 miles on it and had not had an oil change for over 8000 miles! That was the end of the conversation. I told him good luck with the sale and rolled out.

oh **** I didnt see you write that... hell yeah stay away from that POS!!!!

EthioKnight · January 26th, 2012, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsrTek

It passes grammar check, so it can't be a scam.. I mean after all... if they can write English perfect it can't be

In seriousness; if you check that out Ethio and it runs, I'll buy it off you for 2k!!

Come on dude, I highly doubt its legitimacy...a '08 zx-6r for $1700? It's most probably a ploy to attract moto-geeks like us, akin to bees drawn to honey, for some good 'ol stick up.

nickjpass · January 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM

Wow, people need to start reading posts lol

alex.s · January 26th, 2012, 05:58 PM

1700? stolen.

nickjpass · January 26th, 2012, 06:02 PM

Or he rode it like it was stolen

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickjpass

Wow, people need to start reading posts lol

says captain revive old threads...

leed · January 26th, 2012, 09:23 PM

8000 miles is not necessarily that bad... If you look at some motorcycle owner manuals, they recommend a 7K oil change.

massacremasses · January 26th, 2012, 09:43 PM

On a high revving motorcycle though? I think not...

Trailerboy531 · January 27th, 2012, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacremasses

says captain revive old threads...

nickjpass · January 27th, 2012, 06:58 PM

This thread is barely a day old.

massacremasses · January 27th, 2012, 07:13 PM

not talking about that thread...

jdoucet93 · January 28th, 2012, 12:21 AM

I'm still very tempted to go back and see the dude. Maybe see if I can talk him down to 2k. My problem is that i'm looking for a bike for myself. I'm not trying to make a quick buck by flipping fixing and flipping this bike. I actually want a new bike. And i'm thinking long term. So I need a bike that was well taken care of in the early stages of it's life so that it will last me quite some time.

January 25th, 2012, 11:23 PM	#1
jdoucet93 ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Lafayette Louisiana Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 R6 Posts: 509	636 cheaper than a 250!?! I feel like this is way too good to be true. But this just showed up on CL. I just sold my truck and paid off my 250 and still have about $4500 left over. This just seems like wayyyyy too good of a deal. As I'm sure some of you have seen in the past, this will be the 3rd bike that i've been interested in on CL. The first one was a scam, second one was a total piece of ****. This one looks to be along the same lines of the 1st try. What do you guys think? http://lafayette.craigslist.org/mcy/2748522803.html __________________________________________________ SOLD MY NINJETTE and got THIS

January 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM	#3
jdoucet93 ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Lafayette Louisiana Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 R6 Posts: 509	Other than terrible punctuation, I didn't see anything really wrong with the post. __________________________________________________ SOLD MY NINJETTE and got THIS

January 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM	#4
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	" I have title in hand will to make a deal cash only though sorry no checks" __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

January 25th, 2012, 11:46 PM	#5
jdoucet93 ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Lafayette Louisiana Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 R6 Posts: 509	Touché... Oh well. guess all I can do is call the guy in the morning. Will report back with results. __________________________________________________ SOLD MY NINJETTE and got THIS

January 26th, 2012, 12:08 AM	#6
Mountain Dew Ambrosia. Name: Jaymie Location: Oahu, Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1974 Honda CB550K0 W.I.P. Posts: A lot.	Nigeria, murderers, etc. __________________________________________________ Life's better on the Mountain.

January 25th, 2012, 11:33 PM	#2
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	If you can't speak clear english, then its a scam __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

January 26th, 2012, 01:16 AM	#7
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	no checks not because he got screwed but because they are traceable. Also oversized sprocket could mean it was a stunt bike before. Could be lots of underlying damage.

January 26th, 2012, 01:26 AM	#8
Mountain Dew Ambrosia. Name: Jaymie Location: Oahu, Hawaii Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 1974 Honda CB550K0 W.I.P. Posts: A lot.	Also no mirrors, possibly no plate. Avoid like the plague. __________________________________________________ Life's better on the Mountain.

January 26th, 2012, 10:01 AM	#9
Kevin2109 KThanksBye Name: Kevin Location: Orange County Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 zx636r Posts: A lot.	Oh come on people... Calm the **** down Go take a look at it, who cares if it takes $500 to fix it up? Its still a lot cheaper then any other 636. Olny consider if hey lets you test ride it, feel the clutch, see if it shifts through all the gears, listen to it knocking or if its ticking, check the oil, if its dark black then leave __________________________________________________ ----> My Youtube! <---- Unregistered, watch my youtube page!

January 26th, 2012, 10:46 AM	#10
cbdallas ninjette.org guru Name: Charlie Location: Wylie, TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 650R Posts: 317	I guess the seller's attitude is what disturbs me. I try to read the person I'm buying from to determine if the bike has ever received a minute's attention. I like a seller who's fanatical about maintenance and cosmetics. "but its a bike who doesn't drop it..." doesn't exactly give me the warm & fuzzies. But...I think you should go look at it. It looks really 'dingy' in the pictures, but that could be the camera.

January 26th, 2012, 11:00 AM	#11
Bosgarage57 ninjette.org sage Name: Luke Location: Sevierville, TN Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 Buell Uly, 05 VStar 1100 Posts: 577	Go check it out, but take a friend if you can to watch your back. You never know. If he has clear title (check the VIN from the title, with the one on the frame), and lets you test ride it and seems legit go for it. Bikes are a gamble, sometimes you can buy low and sell high, or bust. If you're looking at keeping it I'd go for it.

January 26th, 2012, 11:22 AM	#12
jdoucet93 ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Lafayette Louisiana Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 R6 Posts: 509	First of all, thank you @Kevin2109 for the first real sensible reply. Second of all... I just got back from the guys place, He was really cool but unfortunately it was the same story as bike #2 from craigslist. A total pile of ****. I rode the bike and it felt good. But the engine had a strange sound and the transmission was very clunky. Suspecting dirty oil, I asked the guy when the last time he had it changed was. His reply was extremely startling. This is exactly what he said, "The guy I bought it from said he changed it at about 4000 miles. He told me it would be good for another 10000 easy." I almost passed out. This poor bike had 12000 miles on it and had not had an oil change for over 8000 miles! That was the end of the conversation. I told him good luck with the sale and rolled out. __________________________________________________ SOLD MY NINJETTE and got THIS

January 26th, 2012, 11:31 AM	#13
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	edit: just read OPs reply. for that price, buy it and clean the engine up. it still runs. which means it still has decent compression and its not too far gone that things cant be repaired. take it as a project bike. you could easily get it back in top shape for less than what yoou would pay for one thats already in that shape. just do your own work. __________________________________________________

January 26th, 2012, 11:55 AM	#14
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	deff check it out, itd be stupid not to!!! __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 26th, 2012, 12:02 PM	#16
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	Thats not fair, how many posts has @Kevin2109 made that we had to correct? Some people have a harder time with the english language than others.... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 26th, 2012, 12:41 PM	#18
Trailerboy531 Gear crash test dummy Name: Max Location: South Bay (So. Cal) Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250 race bike, 2014 ZX-636r Posts: A lot.	Its mostly important to make sure its not stolen. After that, things can be fixed.

January 26th, 2012, 01:23 PM	#20
cbdallas ninjette.org guru Name: Charlie Location: Wylie, TX Join Date: Nov 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 650R Posts: 317	His maintenance habits likely carry over to more things than just oil. And while there may be no obvious damage now from running oil that's depleted, it can bring an early doom to bearings, cam lobes, timing chain, etc. Not really a bargain if you consider a shortened life span.

January 26th, 2012, 01:34 PM	#21
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	ok fine dont check it out because it MAY be a bad deal.... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 26th, 2012, 01:59 PM	#22
Live2ride ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Cody Location: NoVa Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 06 yzf r6r previously: 09 ninja 250r, black 07 zx6r Posts: A lot.	I like how the guy describes it as a fade from blue to black....there is no fade there, its an "O ****, I screwed up my fairings from crashing my bike and replaced them with miscolored ones because I'm an idiot". __________________________________________________

January 26th, 2012, 02:05 PM	#23
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	lol I dont think he meant "fade to black" in the way you think he did... I think he meant the blue fades to black, which is a bad description because it doesnt fade to anything, its blue and black there is no fade to the black. But I am guessing thats what he meant. __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 26th, 2012, 03:33 PM	#24
EthioKnight Super Noob Name: Alex Location: Mobile, AL Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): '09 Kawasaki Ninja 250R, '84 Honda Spree 50cc Posts: A lot.	You think yours was too good to be true? Well, check this one out and tell me how "too gooder to be true'er" it is http://mobile.craigslist.org/mcy/2819428886.html

January 26th, 2012, 04:04 PM	#26
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	It passes grammar check, so it can't be a scam.. I mean after all... if they can write English perfect it can't be In seriousness; if you check that out Ethio and it runs, I'll buy it off you for 2k!!

January 26th, 2012, 05:36 PM	#31
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Wow, people need to start reading posts lol __________________________________________________

January 26th, 2012, 05:58 PM	#32
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	1700? stolen. __________________________________________________

January 26th, 2012, 06:02 PM	#33
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	Or he rode it like it was stolen __________________________________________________

January 26th, 2012, 09:23 PM	#35
leed ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Loves Park, IL Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): Time will tell Posts: 969	8000 miles is not necessarily that bad... If you look at some motorcycle owner manuals, they recommend a 7K oil change.

January 26th, 2012, 09:43 PM	#36
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	On a high revving motorcycle though? I think not... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 27th, 2012, 06:58 PM	#38
nickjpass #squid Name: nickypoo Location: Five Guys Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): Track dedicated 2008 ZX6R Posts: A lot. MOTM - Jul '16	This thread is barely a day old. __________________________________________________

January 27th, 2012, 07:13 PM	#39
massacremasses Avid Kitteh Poster Name: Justin Location: Norcal Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2006 Yamaha TTR 50 SUCK IT Posts: A lot.	not talking about that thread... __________________________________________________ I powdercoat stuff Help me pay for my addiction I say funny stuff. http://twitter.com/JustinPWNSyou sometimes... I write like a 12 year old too, http://justinpwnsyou.wordpress.com/

January 28th, 2012, 12:21 AM	#40
jdoucet93 ninjette.org sage Name: Josh Location: Lafayette Louisiana Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 R6 Posts: 509	I'm still very tempted to go back and see the dude. Maybe see if I can talk him down to 2k. My problem is that i'm looking for a bike for myself. I'm not trying to make a quick buck by flipping fixing and flipping this bike. I actually want a new bike. And i'm thinking long term. So I need a bike that was well taken care of in the early stages of it's life so that it will last me quite some time. __________________________________________________ SOLD MY NINJETTE and got THIS