Dash light bulbs

DR1300R · January 24th, 2011, 08:26 AM

How many are needed? going to replace with led bulbs and not sure how many and what kind to buy.. Thinking 3 but want to make sure.

Any pics or DIY threads? Searched and pulled up nothing that was a big help.

kkim · January 24th, 2011, 12:01 PM

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9933

starts at post #9.

DR1300R · January 25th, 2011, 08:51 AM

ordered these.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_3215wt_902

Hope they are the correct ones..

00NissanNinja · January 25th, 2011, 06:31 PM

Yep those are the ones. Its a wedge base bulb so 194, 168, and one other i can't remember work

nattygirl · January 26th, 2011, 04:42 PM

technically, if you want to replace all of them with leds, there are 7 bulbs that can be replaced. I also replaced the bulbs in the turn indicator, neutral indicator, and also the high beam indicator.

Here's of picture of the back of the dash. Each gray rubber grommet is a 194 light bulb. The seventh one is on the right and is not pictured.

DR1300R · January 26th, 2011, 06:27 PM

Thank you for the reply.. I guess I'll order 4 more..

Thank goodness for free shipping..

DR1300R · January 26th, 2011, 06:42 PM

Hey Natty.. I forgot to mention your setup looks real nice..

setasai · January 26th, 2011, 06:46 PM

Looks awesome Natalie. What color would you say those bulbs are that you used? That blueish white makes it look so much more modern.

nattygirl · January 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM

Thanks! These are the exact leds I used. I get all my leds from v-leds. They're worth the money. They sell it in a 6K white, which is why it has a slight bluish hue to it. And they are super bright.

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/C...-p6478377.html

00NissanNinja · January 26th, 2011, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattygirl

Thanks! These are the exact leds I used. I get all my leds from v-leds. They're worth the money. They sell it in a 6K white, which is why it has a slight bluish hue to it. And they are super bright.

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/C...-p6478377.html

That is exactly what I have on my gauges lol. It looks great at night. The LEDs get rid of the economy look that the gauges have stock. Think I might paint my needles red next (or maybe green or blue).

setasai · January 27th, 2011, 03:21 AM

Sweet. Definitely adding these to my list of future mods. I'm assuming these are basically plug and play or is there any soldering involved?

nattygirl · January 27th, 2011, 07:20 AM

Yes, completely plug and play. but if you're going to swap them, kill two birds with one stone, and do the diode mod at the same time if u plan on going leds in the turn signals, or maybe install some hids at the same time. U have to take off a lot just to get under the dash, so might as well do these other mods since the fronts already off.

00NissanNinja · January 27th, 2011, 10:29 AM

Actually now that I look at the link I am actually using (still from vleds)
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/C...81039-1-2.html

They work great as well. My pics aren't the best though...natty's may be brighter, but what I have is still brighter and fills the gauge cluster up better than stock. +1 for doing the HID's while you have the bike apart.

nattygirl · January 27th, 2011, 10:46 AM

I was looking at the picture of the back again and it looks like they're actually 8 bulbs. The one i missed is right under the black electrical tape and is the warning indicator that is on the gas gauge. Not sure what it's for though.

00NissanNinja · January 27th, 2011, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattygirl

I was looking at the picture of the back again and it looks like they're actually 8 bulbs. The one i missed is right under the black electrical tape and is the warning indicator that is on the gas gauge. Not sure what it's for though.

The one in the gas gauge is to warn you that the bike is overheating

lunerkid · February 3rd, 2011, 01:02 AM

Really like this.
Will definitely be doing this.
V-leds is all sold out though =(.

00NissanNinja · February 3rd, 2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunerkid

Really like this.
Will definitely be doing this.
V-leds is all sold out though =(.

superbrightleds also sells some pretty good leds. You can check them out as well. You also aren't forced to buy the bulbs in pairs like at vleds

indr · February 5th, 2011, 08:48 PM

Do these LEDs need a converter thingy in the circuit because they take up so little voltage to prevent them from burning out like the turn signal LEDs?

nattygirl · February 5th, 2011, 09:19 PM

I think you're talking about resistors, or the electronic relay. Those are used to regulate the speed at which the turn signals blink. You don't have to worry about that with the dash leds. Completely plug and play. No additional installs needed.

indr · February 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM

thanks.

Did you have to worry about polarity?

kevlar250 · February 6th, 2011, 12:16 AM

Most LED's are polarity sensitive but they won't be damaged if put in wrong. The bi-polar ones will state so in their description.

00NissanNinja · February 6th, 2011, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indrish

thanks.

Did you have to worry about polarity?

If the bulb doesn't light simply flip it around and plug it back in and that takes care of the polarity. Plug in socket LEDs usually have a built in resistor to step the voltage into the LED down and keep it from burning out. Some have a small diode to guarantee they won't be damaged due to an opposite polarity install.

vnranger · February 17th, 2011, 04:52 AM

Bought 10x T10 LED from this seller on Ebay for $2.99 and free shipping,only problem that we have to wait 3-4 weeks to receive because they're in HongKong.Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10x-T...Q5fAccessories
and here is link to Ebay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Lovingshop2010

vnranger · March 6th, 2011, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vnranger

Bought 10x T10 LED from this seller on Ebay for $2.99 and free shipping,only problem that we have to wait 3-4 weeks to receive because they're in HongKong.Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10x-T...Q5fAccessories
and here is link to Ebay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/Lovingshop2010

Just received 10x T10 LED from Ebay today,tried them on and

,Can't even see any thing,they're too too weak.Well atleast I tried and got what I paid for

warlord · March 6th, 2011, 05:14 AM

I use these in my car for the mirror map lights and the license plate lights, and they're plenty (very) bright.

They are T10 4smd bulbs. I just went ahead and ordered a 10 pack from ebay for $4.99, I'll post a pic and give a little review when I install them.

warlord · March 6th, 2011, 07:17 AM

Ok, I took some pics when I got to work showing these leds:

Bulb Size: T10 / 194
LEDs: 4 SMD
LED Type: 3528 (1210 SMD)
Brightness: 28 lumens (7 lumens per SMD)
Color: Bright White (slightly blue, probably about 5000k)

So these things are pretty bright and without a lens they spread the light out in a forward cone.

They use the same 3528 LEDs as the vleds ones posted by Natalie so if you do the math the brightness of the Vled 5xsmds is actually 35 lumens. vleds uses a product made by Dongguan Nordy Car Light Co.,Ltd in China and the claimed 50lumens is for the version that uses a 5050 SMD (equal to 3x more 3528SMDs) on the top. But if you know your LEDs and look at the pictures of the product you can clearly see that they are only using 3528 SMDs.

For comparison regular 5mm LEDs are about 5 lumens each and the round lens on the end focuses that light to a small area. Sorry I used to be a flashaholic so I can really get into talking about lighting...

vnranger · March 6th, 2011, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlord

I use these in my car for the mirror map lights and the license plate lights, and they're plenty (very) bright.

They are T10 4smd bulbs. I just went ahead and ordered a 10 pack from ebay for $4.99, I'll post a pic and give a little review when I install them.

Link to Ebay please!!

warlord · March 6th, 2011, 11:49 AM

These are the ones I bought but it looks like this one is on temporary price reduction at a better price

vnranger · March 6th, 2011, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warlord

These are the ones I bought but it looks like this one is on temporary price reduction at a better price

Thanks

nattygirl · March 7th, 2011, 11:38 AM

I'm curious to know how those leds work out. I'm thinking since light is only dispersed forward, it will not completely light up the dash gauges. The middle might be really bright, but the edges faded out. Post pics once you've got them installed.

warlord · March 7th, 2011, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nattygirl

I'm curious to know how those leds work out. I'm thinking since light is only dispersed forward, it will not completely light up the dash gauges. The middle might be really bright, but the edges faded out. Post pics once you've got them installed.

It's a valid concern but I wouldn't worry. These LEDs have a wide flood pattern of 120 degrees and without a lens there is no hot spot. Gauges have backing layers to help spread the light evenly and also the interior of the gauge cluster is white; again to help distribute light. I say this but you may have a point as I think the stock bulbs do a terrible job of evenly lighting the gauges.

Anyway, I'm not concerned so much that the gauges will be unevenly lit as much as I'm concerned that they may be too brightly lit.

Pics for sure!

EDIT:
I should also point out that they have pics on the EX500 forum of direction leds in thier clusters and they look very evenly lit. They also seem to have an the same issue with the stock gauge lights looking a bit unevenly lit.

Our unevenly lit stock gauges:

vnranger · March 7th, 2011, 06:06 PM

Is 2011 model change to amber color on the dash?

wtfh4xx · June 8th, 2011, 02:39 PM

Might do this when I install HID's.
Wondering the LED's might be too bright?

Green Streak · June 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM

If you have all LEDs on all turn signals and the turn indicator do you still need to do the diode mod? I thought that was done because the turn indicator was incandescent and so had more resistance than the LEDs? And if you change the indicator to LED, that is a diode. I am just curious, because I have to tear my bike down to add my Shogun Frame sliders, fender eliminator, etc... and figured I would replace all the signals and dash lights with LEDs at the same time. Also, do the HIDs make a really big difference? If so, I might do that at the same time while I have it torn down. Thanks.

Momaru · June 8th, 2011, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Streak

If you have all LEDs on all turn signals and the turn indicator do you still need to do the diode mod? I thought that was done because the turn indicator was incandescent and so had more resistance than the LEDs? And if you change the indicator to LED, that is a diode. I am just curious, because I have to tear my bike down to add my Shogun Frame sliders, fender eliminator, etc... and figured I would replace all the signals and dash lights with LEDs at the same time. Also, do the HIDs make a really big difference? If so, I might do that at the same time while I have it torn down. Thanks.

The way I understand it, from looking at the wiring & the diagrams (I am NOT an electrical pro, so take this with a grain o' salt), the turn signal system is essentially one big circuit, that's fed power from one of two locations, left or right. The indicator bulb is hooked up to the 'hot' lines of either side, joining the two sides of the system. The cumulative resistance/power draw from all those incandescent bulbs is enough to prevent enough power from making it across the indicator light to the other side. Using all LEDs lowers the power needed to light the turn signals, which both reduces load on the system (unless you use resistors) and makes it easier to light more than you intend to. The diode mod essentially installs one-way valves into the electrical flow, to prevent the power from going too far.

A long explanation filled with 'the short answer' type statements, but to wit, I very much doubt that using a LED indicator light will remove the need to do the diode mod. If I'm wrong, I welcome the correction. I invite you to replace your signals and dash with LEDs (and swap your flasher relay), see what happens. If you wind up with emergency flashers, it's time for the diode mod. If it works, groovy! On a "been there done that" note, I suggest checking every functional (electrical, tuning, etc) mod you do one at a time; it makes troubleshooting WAY easier.

Regarding the HIDs, they can make a big difference, but frankly getting the high-end incandescent bulbs is better than stock and great fr visibility without pissing people off. Unless you're gonna go all the way for a retrofit I'd stay away from the HIDs. But that's just my

, it's a pretty heavily debated issue, I think it can be agreed you get more light output from HID than incandescent, but how much of that's useful in a reflector housing...

Green Streak · June 9th, 2011, 10:42 AM

Thanks.

I will give it a try without the diode mod and let you know if it works.

kevlar250 · June 9th, 2011, 11:00 AM

Unless you get a non-polarized LED for your ind. bulb it will only work in one direction but not the other. If you use a non-polarized LED you will still get "4-way" syndrome but the opposite side will be dimmer. It's really simple, just add the diodes!

FrugalNinja250 · June 9th, 2011, 12:21 PM

Yep, diode mod mandatory if retaining the cluster turn signal indicator bulb. Also, will need a different flasher relay because the changed circuit resistance with LEDs alters the flash rate of the stock flasher relay. BTW, the stock flasher relay is solid state, but it doesn't have current compensation circuitry.

transit ninja · March 22nd, 2013, 07:16 PM

I'm looking to change the regular bulbs with LED's on my instrument cluster. how difficult was it to remove the cover to get to the 7 lights on the instrument cluster? anyone have pictures or a video?

menikmati · March 22nd, 2013, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by transit ninja

I'm looking to change the regular bulbs with LED's on my instrument cluster. how difficult was it to remove the cover to get to the 7 lights on the instrument cluster? anyone have pictures or a video?

You'll need to remove the front/nose fairing and then you'll have access to the bulbs from behind the cluster.

January 24th, 2011, 08:26 AM	#1
DR1300R ninjette.org guru Name: Doyle Location: Quad Cities,Il Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Hayabusa 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 318	Dash light bulbs How many are needed? going to replace with led bulbs and not sure how many and what kind to buy.. Thinking 3 but want to make sure. Any pics or DIY threads? Searched and pulled up nothing that was a big help.

January 25th, 2011, 06:31 PM	#4
00NissanNinja I hate driving... Name: S Location: SW Ohio Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): 13 Triumph Street Triple R, 09 Ninja 250r (Sold 4/20/12) Posts: A lot.	Yep those are the ones. Its a wedge base bulb so 194, 168, and one other i can't remember work __________________________________________________ 09 ninja 2fiddy SE Driving slow things fast

January 26th, 2011, 04:42 PM	#5
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	technically, if you want to replace all of them with leds, there are 7 bulbs that can be replaced. I also replaced the bulbs in the turn indicator, neutral indicator, and also the high beam indicator. Here's of picture of the back of the dash. Each gray rubber grommet is a 194 light bulb. The seventh one is on the right and is not pictured. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

January 27th, 2011, 07:20 AM	#12
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	Yes, completely plug and play. but if you're going to swap them, kill two birds with one stone, and do the diode mod at the same time if u plan on going leds in the turn signals, or maybe install some hids at the same time. U have to take off a lot just to get under the dash, so might as well do these other mods since the fronts already off. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

January 27th, 2011, 10:46 AM	#14
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	I was looking at the picture of the back again and it looks like they're actually 8 bulbs. The one i missed is right under the black electrical tape and is the warning indicator that is on the gas gauge. Not sure what it's for though. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

January 24th, 2011, 12:01 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9933 starts at post #9.

January 25th, 2011, 08:51 AM	#3
DR1300R ninjette.org guru Name: Doyle Location: Quad Cities,Il Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Hayabusa 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 318	ordered these.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...#ht_3215wt_902 Hope they are the correct ones..

January 26th, 2011, 06:27 PM	#6
DR1300R ninjette.org guru Name: Doyle Location: Quad Cities,Il Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Hayabusa 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 318	Thank you for the reply.. I guess I'll order 4 more.. Thank goodness for free shipping..

January 26th, 2011, 06:42 PM	#7
DR1300R ninjette.org guru Name: Doyle Location: Quad Cities,Il Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2000 Hayabusa 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 318	Hey Natty.. I forgot to mention your setup looks real nice..

January 26th, 2011, 06:46 PM	#8
setasai ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Brian Location: Detroit, MI Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Green Posts: A lot.	Looks awesome Natalie. What color would you say those bulbs are that you used? That blueish white makes it look so much more modern.

January 26th, 2011, 09:09 PM	#9
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	Thanks! These are the exact leds I used. I get all my leds from v-leds. They're worth the money. They sell it in a 6K white, which is why it has a slight bluish hue to it. And they are super bright. http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/C...-p6478377.html __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

January 27th, 2011, 03:21 AM	#11
setasai ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Brian Location: Detroit, MI Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Green Posts: A lot.	Sweet. Definitely adding these to my list of future mods. I'm assuming these are basically plug and play or is there any soldering involved?

February 3rd, 2011, 01:02 AM	#16
lunerkid ninjette.org member Name: Ed Location: East Bay Area Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 36	Really like this. Will definitely be doing this. V-leds is all sold out though =(.

February 5th, 2011, 08:48 PM	#18
indr ninjette.org guru Name: . Location: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: 331	Do these LEDs need a converter thingy in the circuit because they take up so little voltage to prevent them from burning out like the turn signal LEDs?

February 5th, 2011, 09:19 PM	#19
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	I think you're talking about resistors, or the electronic relay. Those are used to regulate the speed at which the turn signals blink. You don't have to worry about that with the dash leds. Completely plug and play. No additional installs needed. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

February 5th, 2011, 10:37 PM	#20
indr ninjette.org guru Name: . Location: . Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: 331	thanks. Did you have to worry about polarity?

February 6th, 2011, 12:16 AM	#21
kevlar250 ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: MN Metro Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): '94 Vulcan 1500, '06 Katana 600, '08 FZ1 Posts: 133	Most LED's are polarity sensitive but they won't be damaged if put in wrong. The bi-polar ones will state so in their description.

February 17th, 2011, 04:52 AM	#23
vnranger ninjette.org sage Name: Jonathan Location: Beaverton OR Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Candy Thunder blue 2009 kawasaki 250r, 2010 Dark Stealth Ducati Monster 696. Posts: 891	Bought 10x T10 LED from this seller on Ebay for $2.99 and free shipping,only problem that we have to wait 3-4 weeks to receive because they're in HongKong.Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10x-T...Q5fAccessories and here is link to Ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/Lovingshop2010 Last futzed with by vnranger; February 17th, 2011 at 05:27 AM. Reason: wrong link

March 6th, 2011, 05:14 AM	#25
warlord ninjette.org guru Name: war Location: north chicago burbs Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ducati Panigale 899 Posts: 325	I use these in my car for the mirror map lights and the license plate lights, and they're plenty (very) bright. They are T10 4smd bulbs. I just went ahead and ordered a 10 pack from ebay for $4.99, I'll post a pic and give a little review when I install them.

March 6th, 2011, 07:17 AM	#26
warlord ninjette.org guru Name: war Location: north chicago burbs Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ducati Panigale 899 Posts: 325	Ok, I took some pics when I got to work showing these leds: Bulb Size: T10 / 194 LEDs: 4 SMD LED Type: 3528 (1210 SMD) Brightness: 28 lumens (7 lumens per SMD) Color: Bright White (slightly blue, probably about 5000k) So these things are pretty bright and without a lens they spread the light out in a forward cone. They use the same 3528 LEDs as the vleds ones posted by Natalie so if you do the math the brightness of the Vled 5xsmds is actually 35 lumens. vleds uses a product made by Dongguan Nordy Car Light Co.,Ltd in China and the claimed 50lumens is for the version that uses a 5050 SMD (equal to 3x more 3528SMDs) on the top. But if you know your LEDs and look at the pictures of the product you can clearly see that they are only using 3528 SMDs. For comparison regular 5mm LEDs are about 5 lumens each and the round lens on the end focuses that light to a small area. Sorry I used to be a flashaholic so I can really get into talking about lighting... Last futzed with by warlord; March 6th, 2011 at 09:15 AM.

March 6th, 2011, 11:49 AM	#28
warlord ninjette.org guru Name: war Location: north chicago burbs Join Date: Jan 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ducati Panigale 899 Posts: 325	These are the ones I bought but it looks like this one is on temporary price reduction at a better price

March 7th, 2011, 11:38 AM	#30
nattygirl ninjette.org guru Name: Natalie Location: La Puente, CA Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Kawasaki Ninja EX250 Special Edition Red/Black Posts: 455	I'm curious to know how those leds work out. I'm thinking since light is only dispersed forward, it will not completely light up the dash gauges. The middle might be really bright, but the edges faded out. Post pics once you've got them installed. __________________________________________________ '10 Ninja 250R SE Red/Blk Mods: Projekt D FE, Protons, HB Blk Windscreen, HIDs, TBR Blk Series Slip-On, Shogun Sliders, Solo Cowl, Integrated Tail Light, Gls Blk Rear Fender, Red Accents

March 7th, 2011, 06:06 PM	#32
vnranger ninjette.org sage Name: Jonathan Location: Beaverton OR Join Date: Jul 2010 Motorcycle(s): Candy Thunder blue 2009 kawasaki 250r, 2010 Dark Stealth Ducati Monster 696. Posts: 891	Is 2011 model change to amber color on the dash?

June 8th, 2011, 02:39 PM	#33
wtfh4xx Opinionated individual :) Name: SecretNinjaMan Location: Nor Cal Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninjette Special Edition (red/black) Posts: 342	Might do this when I install HID's. Wondering the LED's might be too bright? __________________________________________________ Yoshi slip on, shimmed 2 washers, zip tie throttle mod, pre-load #2, snorkel delete 2010 SE 250R! Miles in the saddle: 1000

June 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM	#34
Green Streak Ninjette Owner Name: Rick Location: Aiken County, SC Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, a puddle of Ninja ZX6 Posts: 520	If you have all LEDs on all turn signals and the turn indicator do you still need to do the diode mod? I thought that was done because the turn indicator was incandescent and so had more resistance than the LEDs? And if you change the indicator to LED, that is a diode. I am just curious, because I have to tear my bike down to add my Shogun Frame sliders, fender eliminator, etc... and figured I would replace all the signals and dash lights with LEDs at the same time. Also, do the HIDs make a really big difference? If so, I might do that at the same time while I have it torn down. Thanks. __________________________________________________

June 9th, 2011, 10:42 AM	#36
Green Streak Ninjette Owner Name: Rick Location: Aiken County, SC Join Date: Jun 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, a puddle of Ninja ZX6 Posts: 520	Thanks. I will give it a try without the diode mod and let you know if it works. __________________________________________________

June 9th, 2011, 11:00 AM	#37
kevlar250 ninjette.org member Name: Kevin Location: MN Metro Join Date: Feb 2010 Motorcycle(s): '94 Vulcan 1500, '06 Katana 600, '08 FZ1 Posts: 133	Unless you get a non-polarized LED for your ind. bulb it will only work in one direction but not the other. If you use a non-polarized LED you will still get "4-way" syndrome but the opposite side will be dimmer. It's really simple, just add the diodes!

June 9th, 2011, 12:21 PM	#38
FrugalNinja250 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Frugal Location: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) Join Date: Mar 2010 Motorcycle(s): Several Posts: A lot.	Yep, diode mod mandatory if retaining the cluster turn signal indicator bulb. Also, will need a different flasher relay because the changed circuit resistance with LEDs alters the flash rate of the stock flasher relay. BTW, the stock flasher relay is solid state, but it doesn't have current compensation circuitry.

March 22nd, 2013, 07:16 PM	#39
transit ninja ninjette.org newbie Name: Lou Location: NYC Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): kawasaki ninja Posts: 1	2011 ninja 250R instrument cover removal I'm looking to change the regular bulbs with LED's on my instrument cluster. how difficult was it to remove the cover to get to the 7 lights on the instrument cluster? anyone have pictures or a video?

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