[motorcycle-usa.com] - 2014 Honda CB650F & CBR650F First Look

Ninjette Newsbot · November 8th, 2013, 02:30 PM

Honda revealed two new models, the 2014 CB650F and CBR650F during the 2013 EICMA show in Milan, Italy.

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Jono · February 4th, 2014, 08:31 AM

Well they announced they are bringing the CBR650F to the US.

Ninjette Newsbot · February 4th, 2014, 09:40 AM

In addition to the revised CB1100 and CB1100 Deluxe we posted earlier today, Honda has unveiled additional 2014 models, including the four-cylinder CBR650F pictured above and the Interceptor pictured below, which we described in detail when it was introduced to the European market earlier this year (Europe calls it the VFR800F). Some of the details […]

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StephenA · February 4th, 2014, 11:53 AM

very interesting, I have been looking at the Fz6r a lot recently, and Honda seems to have taken to that more sharp-angled styling. I dig.

StephenA · February 4th, 2014, 12:04 PM

now this is interesting. Bike looks pretty good. What do you guys think?
its got v-tek yo!

ChrisMKV · February 4th, 2014, 12:07 PM

Nah... I was initially excited by this but then Yamaha announced the MT07!

Compared to that the Honda just seems heavy and boring to me. They should have kept the Hornet

Alex · February 4th, 2014, 01:37 PM

/merged two threads chatting about the Honda 650

Jono · February 4th, 2014, 01:41 PM

The more I look at it, the less I like the front end.

Toly · February 4th, 2014, 02:41 PM

Is MT-07 coming to the US, too???

Am I in heaven or what....

tnr4 · February 5th, 2014, 06:50 AM

Fantastic. The CBR650F is exactly what I was looking for when I bought my GSX650F this year. I'm happy with the zook, but I couldn't believe how hard it was to buy a new, I4, non-supersport, middleweight sport bike. The FZ6R just feels a bit too neutered, and the other options are naked (FZ6,). Great to have more options in this class of bike.

choneofakind · February 5th, 2014, 08:42 AM

^^ this looks like a great option for me. Not sure I want to live with an SS, definitely want a bigger bike for street use later on (and who wouldn't take an cheater 650 I4 tuned for midrange instead of a 650 twin? dat sound.

). I'll check this out for sure.

Still waiting on the 300cc option from Yamaha to compare with the KTM and the ninjette as well. I want a good middleweight street bike for sport touring/commuting/2-up/weekend rides, and a small high strung track/twistykiller bike.

I might end up being a Kawi traitor with a Honda and a Yami.

adouglas · February 5th, 2014, 09:09 AM

Keep it light (sub-450 lb), make it possible to readily tweak the ergos (e.g. room for clip-ons if I want them), make it luggage-friendly and price it reasonably, and you have my attention. The power and torque are in the butter zone for a daily ride, the looks are good to my eye.

The FZ6 and the GSX650F both struck me as too heavy and not interesting enough.

Jono · February 5th, 2014, 09:17 AM

The headers ...

Too bad they will be mostly covered up by the fairings on the CBR version. They should bring the CB650F here as well.

Jono · February 5th, 2014, 09:29 AM

I'm really digging the black paint on this thing...

Bunch of photos on their website.
http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cbr650f.aspx

Boom King · February 5th, 2014, 09:37 AM

Looking good. I'm hoping this makes Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha get off their butts and refresh their current sport touring faired 600/650 offerings. The FZ6R has existed in its current form since 2009 and the GSX650 since 2008. Honda definitely spotted an opportunity here.

StephenA · February 5th, 2014, 11:43 AM

well, it seems that the cbr only has a few hp on the 6r. slightly lighter sure but does that justify the price difference? don't get me wrong, I think Honda might stir up some good competition in the market, and they make great bikes, but that price is a bit high for what it is. One can get an fz9 or 8 for that price.

tnr4 · February 5th, 2014, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StephenA

well, it seems that the cbr only has a few hp on the 6r. slightly lighter sure but does that justify the price difference? don't get me wrong, I think Honda might stir up some good competition in the market, and they make great bikes, but that price is a bit high for what it is. One can get an fz9 or 8 for that price.

Well, the fz8 and 9 are naked, so for some of us, they aren't the right competition. The CBR here is more than just a little more powerful and a little lighter: it looks to be built as a more serious sport bike. The brakes look promising, hopefully the suspension isn't junk, and it looks to have raised clip-ons instead of a handlebar (hopefully making adjustment easier). The hp and torque curve will also matter, and my prediction (and hope) is that this new CBR will have smoke the fz6r in performance, quality, and general ability to handle the sportier side of having a one-bike solution (read: be a sometimes track-bike).

StephenA · February 5th, 2014, 12:08 PM

that's true. I hopefully this will spark yama do update their bike and kawi to do the same. We might see a few new bikes in the coming years (which would be sick !!!). The price is the thing that's bugging me though. If the performance is better than the 6r and ninja, then they might have a winner.

Boom King · February 5th, 2014, 12:50 PM

Just noticed that you guys in the US get a non-ABS option where we get standard ABS and I think the same goes for Europe.

KawiKid860 · February 5th, 2014, 01:41 PM

I like the looks of this bike and was hoping they'd bring it to the US when they announced it. Glad to see some positive reception here, over on PNW riders everyone's talking crap about it and the VFR because they're heavy and underpowered and cost more than the lighter, more powerful FZ-09, though they seem to omit the fact the FZ is naked and not designed to do what either of these bikes are. It seems like ninjette is one of the few sites where power and weight isn't everything lol.

ChrisMKV · February 5th, 2014, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jono

Bunch of photos on their website.
http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cbr650f.aspx

Thanks for that link - still not digging the numbers too much but the matte grey fairing does look good!

Also, just compared prices for the ABS Model. US: 9000$, Germany 8555€=11500$!

StephenA · February 5th, 2014, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KawiKid860

I like the looks of this bike and was hoping they'd bring it to the US when they announced it. Glad to see some positive reception here, over on PNW riders everyone's talking crap about it and the VFR because they're heavy and underpowered and cost more than the lighter, more powerful FZ-09, though they seem to omit the fact the FZ is naked and not designed to do what either of these bikes are. It seems like ninjette is one of the few sites where power and weight isn't everything lol.

Yup, I started a thread over on the fz6r forum and no one seems too trilled either. But I mean the bike looks great, and I'm liking it more as time goes by. Well except for that seat (I hate single piece banana seats) but I don't see it as under powered. Its got slightly more hp than the 6r and is slightly lighter. Plus, that v tech haha

Byakkotai · February 5th, 2014, 05:08 PM

I don't think the 650F has Vtec like Interceptor. Vtec also seems to ride on divided public opinion

But it is a welcome change to the lineup considering that we were writing it off for being not stateside bound last November. The price is a bit higher than I would have hoped but it seems far enough out there to not significantly cannibalize the 500R.

What's next? A sport/sport tourer Kawi w/ a modified 636 engine?

StephenA · February 5th, 2014, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byakkotai

I don't think the 650F has Vtec like Interceptor. Vtec also seems to ride on divided public opinion

But it is a welcome change to the lineup considering that we were writing it off for being not stateside bound last November. The price is a bit higher than I would have hoped but it seems far enough out there to not significantly cannibalize the 500R.

What's next? A sport/sport tourer Kawi w/ a modified 636 engine?

Awwww must've gotten the bikes mixed up

That would be sick lol the 6r runs on a de tuned old r6 engine, so it's not completely unheard of

November 8th, 2013, 02:30 PM	#1
Ninjette Newsbot All the news that's fit to excerpt Name: newsie Location: who knows? Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): only digital replicas Posts: Too much.	[motorcycle-usa.com] - 2014 Honda CB650F & CBR650F First Look Honda revealed two new models, the 2014 CB650F and CBR650F during the 2013 EICMA show in Milan, Italy. Click here for full story... __________________________________________________ I'm a bot. I don't need no stinkin' signature...

February 4th, 2014, 09:40 AM	#3
Ninjette Newsbot All the news that's fit to excerpt Name: newsie Location: who knows? Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): only digital replicas Posts: Too much.	[motorcycledaily.com] - Honda Introduces 2014 CBR650F and Interceptor 800 for U.S. Ma In addition to the revised CB1100 and CB1100 Deluxe we posted earlier today, Honda has unveiled additional 2014 models, including the four-cylinder CBR650F pictured above and the Interceptor pictured below, which we described in detail when it was introduced to the European market earlier this year (Europe calls it the VFR800F). Some of the details […] Click here for full story... __________________________________________________ I'm a bot. I don't need no stinkin' signature...

February 4th, 2014, 11:53 AM	#4
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	very interesting, I have been looking at the Fz6r a lot recently, and Honda seems to have taken to that more sharp-angled styling. I dig. __________________________________________________ Unregistered

February 4th, 2014, 12:04 PM	#5
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	now this is interesting. Bike looks pretty good. What do you guys think? its got v-tek yo! __________________________________________________ Unregistered

February 4th, 2014, 01:37 PM	#7
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February 4th, 2014, 08:31 AM	#2
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Well they announced they are bringing the CBR650F to the US.

February 4th, 2014, 12:07 PM	#6
ChrisMKV ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: Luxembourg Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninja 250, 2015 F800R Posts: 90	Nah... I was initially excited by this but then Yamaha announced the MT07! Compared to that the Honda just seems heavy and boring to me. They should have kept the Hornet

February 4th, 2014, 01:41 PM	#8
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	The more I look at it, the less I like the front end.

February 4th, 2014, 02:41 PM	#9
Toly ninjette.org guru Name: Toly Location: NY Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): KTM 390 Duke Posts: 428	Is MT-07 coming to the US, too??? Am I in heaven or what....

February 5th, 2014, 06:50 AM	#10
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	Fantastic. The CBR650F is exactly what I was looking for when I bought my GSX650F this year. I'm happy with the zook, but I couldn't believe how hard it was to buy a new, I4, non-supersport, middleweight sport bike. The FZ6R just feels a bit too neutered, and the other options are naked (FZ6,). Great to have more options in this class of bike.

February 5th, 2014, 08:42 AM	#11
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ this looks like a great option for me. Not sure I want to live with an SS, definitely want a bigger bike for street use later on (and who wouldn't take an cheater 650 I4 tuned for midrange instead of a 650 twin? dat sound. ). I'll check this out for sure. Still waiting on the 300cc option from Yamaha to compare with the KTM and the ninjette as well. I want a good middleweight street bike for sport touring/commuting/2-up/weekend rides, and a small high strung track/twistykiller bike. I might end up being a Kawi traitor with a Honda and a Yami.

February 5th, 2014, 09:09 AM	#12
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February 5th, 2014, 09:17 AM	#13
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	The headers ... Too bad they will be mostly covered up by the fairings on the CBR version. They should bring the CB650F here as well.

February 5th, 2014, 09:29 AM	#14
Jono ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jono Location: Memphis, TN Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Triumph Street Triple, 2009 KLX250SF, 2003 Suzuki SV650S (Sold), 2006 Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I'm really digging the black paint on this thing... Bunch of photos on their website. http://powersports.honda.com/2014/cbr650f.aspx

February 5th, 2014, 09:37 AM	#15
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Looking good. I'm hoping this makes Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha get off their butts and refresh their current sport touring faired 600/650 offerings. The FZ6R has existed in its current form since 2009 and the GSX650 since 2008. Honda definitely spotted an opportunity here. __________________________________________________ Squidbusters. I ain't afraid a no squid.

February 5th, 2014, 11:43 AM	#16
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	well, it seems that the cbr only has a few hp on the 6r. slightly lighter sure but does that justify the price difference? don't get me wrong, I think Honda might stir up some good competition in the market, and they make great bikes, but that price is a bit high for what it is. One can get an fz9 or 8 for that price. __________________________________________________ Unregistered

February 5th, 2014, 12:08 PM	#18
StephenA Riding Ruby.. Name: Stephen Location: SoCal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Yamaha Bolt R-Spec, 2007 Ninja 250R Posts: 392	that's true. I hopefully this will spark yama do update their bike and kawi to do the same. We might see a few new bikes in the coming years (which would be sick !!!). The price is the thing that's bugging me though. If the performance is better than the 6r and ninja, then they might have a winner. __________________________________________________ Unregistered

February 5th, 2014, 12:50 PM	#19
Boom King So, where's the reverse? Name: Anson Location: Ontario, Canada Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Just noticed that you guys in the US get a non-ABS option where we get standard ABS and I think the same goes for Europe. __________________________________________________ Squidbusters. I ain't afraid a no squid.

February 5th, 2014, 01:41 PM	#20
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	I like the looks of this bike and was hoping they'd bring it to the US when they announced it. Glad to see some positive reception here, over on PNW riders everyone's talking crap about it and the VFR because they're heavy and underpowered and cost more than the lighter, more powerful FZ-09, though they seem to omit the fact the FZ is naked and not designed to do what either of these bikes are. It seems like ninjette is one of the few sites where power and weight isn't everything lol.

February 5th, 2014, 05:08 PM	#23
Byakkotai ninjette.org guru Name: Roger Location: NorCali - East Bay Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 White Ninja 300 Posts: 379	I don't think the 650F has Vtec like Interceptor. Vtec also seems to ride on divided public opinion But it is a welcome change to the lineup considering that we were writing it off for being not stateside bound last November. The price is a bit higher than I would have hoped but it seems far enough out there to not significantly cannibalize the 500R. What's next? A sport/sport tourer Kawi w/ a modified 636 engine?

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