fuel filter

ninjablk08 · October 10th, 2009, 03:21 PM

where is this fuel filter i want to change it , having some minor problems so checking the small things first

kkim · October 10th, 2009, 03:56 PM

at the end of the fuel line where it enters the carbs. it's a small inline filter.

ninjablk08 · October 10th, 2009, 04:03 PM

thanks Kelly didn't see it in service manual

kkim · October 11th, 2009, 01:45 AM

while you're in there, consider removing the OEM filter and splice in a clear plastic inline filter so you can easily see crap that gets caught by the filter.

M · October 11th, 2009, 06:29 AM

The fuel filter is in the black plastic 90* turn piece. It looks like an inverted funnel when you remove it. The issue I have with the OEM fuel filter is that you cannot see it without taking off the hose from the petcock.

I always install an inline fuel filter between the petcock and the OEM fuel filter. I buy the clear ones, so that I can see if there is any debris (such as from the last fill-up) in the line.

The petcock filters, there is one on each hose, should catch any debris first, but having another fuel filter is a redundant 'check' in the fuel system.

HKr1 · October 11th, 2009, 12:19 PM

^ Nice hose clamps

kkim · October 11th, 2009, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

^ Nice hose clamps

HKr1 · October 11th, 2009, 12:44 PM

I still need to ditch the stock filter for the after market one. But Iam so lazy

That and scared of cutting that $56.00 dollar fuel line

LOL

kkim · October 11th, 2009, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKr1

That and scared of cutting that $56.00 dollar fuel line

LOL

what??

HKr1 · October 11th, 2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

what??

Yeah, thought that you and I were laughing about that price back in 08.

P/N92192

kkim · October 11th, 2009, 06:08 PM

no... we were laughing at the price of the stock fuel filter... wasn't that about $40 or so?

never heard of the fuel line being that expensive.

Neema12 · October 12th, 2009, 09:35 AM

I paid $4 for my fuel filter

bobaab · October 14th, 2009, 01:53 PM

Just put a fuel filter in and get over the $56 you will never pay for a small fuel line. Your bike will be much happier!

g21-30 · June 19th, 2010, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

while you're in there, consider removing the OEM filter and splice in a clear plastic inline filter so you can easily see crap that gets caught by the filter.

I installed a filter similar to this one last week. I also have one on a tractor mower. I bought both from a Sears Hardware store. The mower engine sometimes starts sputtering and dies. I then have to wait for the filter to refill (visually watch it) and the engine will start right up.Today the bike did the same thing. I was going up a rolling hill and the bike sputtered and hesitated. When I got to the top and turned right, the engine suddenly died. I coasted on the side of the downhill for roughly 30 yards and stopped the bike in the shade. I sat there for about a minute and tried to start the engine for a couple of seconds. First try engine turned but didn't start. Waited a second or two and it fired right up. No more problems the rest of the ride.

I know it was a fuel problem because of how quick it all happened. Both the mower and the bike carbs are gravity fed, so it's not due to a lack of fuel pressure. I'm considering purchasing a Pingel in-line filter

from the Motorcycle Super Store. It has a replaceable bronze filter element with o ring.

kkim · June 19th, 2010, 08:50 PM

how would the Pingel filter differ from the cheapo filter you have now?

g21-30 · June 20th, 2010, 06:25 AM

Paper element (cheapo) versus bronze mesh. I'm thinking the paper is more restrictive. On the mower, I can actually see the gas drawn into the carburetor quicker than the filter normally allows the fuel to pass thru!

There is one common theme in the mower and bike. The mower tends to do it more when the gas tank level (transparent tank) is at or below 1/4 tank. The bike gas level (per the gauge) was below 1/4 tank.

The reason I suspect the filter is the bike has never done this in 4300 miles and the only fuel related change was the removal of the factory filter and installation of the cheapo one.

kkim · June 20th, 2010, 10:43 AM

thanks... I'll have to keep an eye on mine. if I ever end up with fuel starvation I'll know what to check first.

dubojr1 · June 21st, 2010, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

thanks... I'll have to keep an eye on mine. if I ever end up with fuel starvation I'll know what to check first.

Hey kkim, I did the same type of filter on my SE. I had a small issue with my bike that could have been fuel starvation. Would you be willing to mount up that camera of yours to view what's going on in the filter while riding. I tried to peak at it while riding but it became super dangerous.

welcome2thedawn · September 24th, 2010, 05:47 PM

so when you change the fuel filter, do you need to unplug the hoses, as if you were going to remove the tank...or can you just take off the hose that the filter goes in....i read the how to for the pre-gen...but not sure if it's the same, and i don't want gas to start spilling out, while i frantically try to get the hose back on

kkim · September 24th, 2010, 08:06 PM

make sure the petcock is in the "on" position and not the "prime".

you can then make your cut in the main fuel line that runs from the tank to the carbs and insert your filter.

welcome2thedawn · September 24th, 2010, 08:42 PM

thanks....i now have a new inline fuel filter...thank to another do-it-yourself on ninjette

kkim · September 24th, 2010, 09:02 PM

there is usually an arrow embossed on the filter to indicate the direction that fuel should flow through it. Did you make sure you had your filter oriented correctly when you installed it?

jonthechron · September 24th, 2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welcome2thedawn

thanks....i now have a new inline fuel filter...thank to another do-it-yourself on ninjette

I don't recommend doing this mod, many of us, including myself have had problems with fuel starvation... there are already 2 fuel filter on the ninjette, a 3rd one really isn't necessary.

Fuel starvation can be really dangerous, I was on the highway doing about 70 MPH and my bike just turned off on me, an other time I was in a 40 zone in a curb coming out of a highway when it starved, I couldn't go anywhere and almost got hit by a cell phone cager.

dubojr1 · September 25th, 2010, 04:53 AM

Remember there will be some fuel loss from what's in the line. As long as your petcock is in the "on" position though, you should good.

welcome2thedawn · September 25th, 2010, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

there is usually an arrow embossed on the filter to indicate the direction that fuel should flow through it. Did you make sure you had your filter oriented correctly when you installed it?

yup...arrow (flow) towards the carbs

g21-30 · September 27th, 2010, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

I know it was a fuel problem because of how quick it all happened. Both the mower and the bike carbs are gravity fed, so it's not due to a lack of fuel pressure. I'm considering purchasing a Pingel in-line filter

from the Motorcycle Super Store. It has a replaceable bronze filter element with o ring.

For those of you considering an inline filter, DO NOT buy the Pingel! It is not meant to be used with a gravity fed carb. It is ONLY for use with a fuel pump!

If the clear plastic one gives you problems (from Sears), get the EMGO steel version, with the reusable bronze filter. It is meant for gravity fed carbs.

dubojr1 · September 27th, 2010, 04:52 AM

Cycle Gear also has a small bronze filter that they claim a lot of the track guys use with no problems. Cost is $3.49 in store only though. I can't seem to find it on their online store.

g21-30 · September 27th, 2010, 04:54 AM

^^^You must own stock in Cycle Gear!

You sure are spending a lot of time (err $$$) there!

dubojr1 · September 27th, 2010, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

^^^You must own stock in Cycle Gear!

You sure are spending a lot of time (err $$$) there!

No stock but I wish!

I just learned I even had a store local to me and they have proved to be one of the best sources for parts and accerories. I hope they continue to be while I wrap up a few projects I have going on.

cuong-nutz · December 21st, 2011, 01:11 AM

I just picked up a a fuel filter from Cycle Gear for $3.99. They have two shapes, a cylinder and a tapered. I ended up getting the tapered as I remember seeing one installed on my girlfriend's pregen. Debating if I should install it...

Skippii · December 21st, 2011, 02:33 AM

Back to the fuel LINE....you know that most hardware stores carry gasoline fuel line for less than 50 cents per foot, right?

dubojr1 · December 21st, 2011, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

I just picked up a a fuel filter from Cycle Gear for $3.99. They have two shapes, a cylinder and a tapered. I ended up getting the tapered as I remember seeing one installed on my girlfriend's pregen. Debating if I should install it...

I got the tapered one. Went to install it and the ends were too small for the stock fuel line. I plan to install it with some new fuel line soon.

CynicalC · December 21st, 2011, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

I got the tapered one. Went to install it and the ends were too small for the stock fuel line. I plan to install it with some new fuel line soon.

You definitely don't need to replace the fuel line on a 2 year old bike. And you don't want to replace it with a smaller line either. Just get the right size filter.

dubojr1 · December 21st, 2011, 07:13 AM

The line is only too big because of the previous filter I had on it. The ends on it were larger and has stretched the fuel line ends too big for the new filter.

CynicalC · December 21st, 2011, 07:19 AM

Oh. Gotcha.

JLinde1339 · December 22nd, 2011, 01:53 PM

I got mine at an auto parts store and it came with the fuel line. Pulled my stock line off, punched out the filter with a chop stick, and cut and installed my own in-line. No problems at all. Cost was like $5 for the filter and hose. Another couple bucks for the hose clamps. I still have the OEM hose, if anybody wants it for $50+shipping.......

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October 10th, 2009, 03:21 PM	#1
ninjablk08 ninjette.org guru Name: oscar Location: antioch, ca (bay area) Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): blk ninja 250 2008 Posts: 391	fuel filter where is this fuel filter i want to change it , having some minor problems so checking the small things first __________________________________________________ 2 bro CFSO, factory pro 3, hotbody DS , krayzie graphics rim tape, brake flasher, DIY fender chop, DIY flushmounts & LED rear, K&N filter, 15/43 Driven, DID race chain, air stuff removed, clipons

October 10th, 2009, 04:03 PM	#3
ninjablk08 ninjette.org guru Name: oscar Location: antioch, ca (bay area) Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): blk ninja 250 2008 Posts: 391	thanks Kelly didn't see it in service manual __________________________________________________ 2 bro CFSO, factory pro 3, hotbody DS , krayzie graphics rim tape, brake flasher, DIY fender chop, DIY flushmounts & LED rear, K&N filter, 15/43 Driven, DID race chain, air stuff removed, clipons

October 12th, 2009, 09:35 AM	#12
Neema12 ninjette.org member Name: Neema Location: San Jose, CA Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 66	I paid $4 for my fuel filter __________________________________________________ "the saddest thing in life is wasted talent" -a bronx tale "all good decisions come from experience. all experience comes from bad decisions"

September 25th, 2010, 04:53 AM	#24
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Remember there will be some fuel loss from what's in the line. As long as your petcock is in the "on" position though, you should good. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

September 27th, 2010, 04:52 AM	#27
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Cycle Gear also has a small bronze filter that they claim a lot of the track guys use with no problems. Cost is $3.49 in store only though. I can't seem to find it on their online store. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

October 10th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	at the end of the fuel line where it enters the carbs. it's a small inline filter.

October 11th, 2009, 01:45 AM	#4
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	while you're in there, consider removing the OEM filter and splice in a clear plastic inline filter so you can easily see crap that gets caught by the filter.

October 11th, 2009, 06:29 AM	#5
M ninjette.org member Name: M Location: Oklahoma Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 x2, Ninja 650R Posts: 165	The fuel filter is in the black plastic 90* turn piece. It looks like an inverted funnel when you remove it. The issue I have with the OEM fuel filter is that you cannot see it without taking off the hose from the petcock. I always install an inline fuel filter between the petcock and the OEM fuel filter. I buy the clear ones, so that I can see if there is any debris (such as from the last fill-up) in the line. The petcock filters, there is one on each hose, should catch any debris first, but having another fuel filter is a redundant 'check' in the fuel system.

October 11th, 2009, 12:19 PM	#6
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	^ Nice hose clamps

October 11th, 2009, 12:44 PM	#8
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	I still need to ditch the stock filter for the after market one. But Iam so lazy That and scared of cutting that $56.00 dollar fuel line LOL

October 11th, 2009, 06:08 PM	#11
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	no... we were laughing at the price of the stock fuel filter... wasn't that about $40 or so? never heard of the fuel line being that expensive.

October 14th, 2009, 01:53 PM	#13
bobaab ninjette.org member Name: Bob Location: Park Ridge, IL Join Date: Jul 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Kawasaki Ninja 250 Posts: 74	Just put a fuel filter in and get over the $56 you will never pay for a small fuel line. Your bike will be much happier!

June 19th, 2010, 08:50 PM	#15
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	how would the Pingel filter differ from the cheapo filter you have now?

June 20th, 2010, 06:25 AM	#16
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	Paper element (cheapo) versus bronze mesh. I'm thinking the paper is more restrictive. On the mower, I can actually see the gas drawn into the carburetor quicker than the filter normally allows the fuel to pass thru! There is one common theme in the mower and bike. The mower tends to do it more when the gas tank level (transparent tank) is at or below 1/4 tank. The bike gas level (per the gauge) was below 1/4 tank. The reason I suspect the filter is the bike has never done this in 4300 miles and the only fuel related change was the removal of the factory filter and installation of the cheapo one.

June 20th, 2010, 10:43 AM	#17
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	thanks... I'll have to keep an eye on mine. if I ever end up with fuel starvation I'll know what to check first.

September 24th, 2010, 05:47 PM	#19
welcome2thedawn ninjette.org guru Name: dawn Location: portland, or Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r modded, 73 honda cl200, 74 kawasaki 400 triple Posts: 255	so when you change the fuel filter, do you need to unplug the hoses, as if you were going to remove the tank...or can you just take off the hose that the filter goes in....i read the how to for the pre-gen...but not sure if it's the same, and i don't want gas to start spilling out, while i frantically try to get the hose back on

September 24th, 2010, 08:06 PM	#20
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	make sure the petcock is in the "on" position and not the "prime". you can then make your cut in the main fuel line that runs from the tank to the carbs and insert your filter.

September 24th, 2010, 08:42 PM	#21
welcome2thedawn ninjette.org guru Name: dawn Location: portland, or Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r modded, 73 honda cl200, 74 kawasaki 400 triple Posts: 255	thanks....i now have a new inline fuel filter...thank to another do-it-yourself on ninjette

September 24th, 2010, 09:02 PM	#22
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	there is usually an arrow embossed on the filter to indicate the direction that fuel should flow through it. Did you make sure you had your filter oriented correctly when you installed it?

September 27th, 2010, 04:54 AM	#28
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 and ZX-12R 2000 Posts: A lot.	^^^You must own stock in Cycle Gear! You sure are spending a lot of time (err $$$) there!

December 21st, 2011, 01:11 AM	#30
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	I just picked up a a fuel filter from Cycle Gear for $3.99. They have two shapes, a cylinder and a tapered. I ended up getting the tapered as I remember seeing one installed on my girlfriend's pregen. Debating if I should install it... __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

December 21st, 2011, 02:33 AM	#31
Skippii Milkshake Drinker Name: Skippii Location: Richmond, Va Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Orange DRZ400-S, 2005 Ninja 250 & Custom Thundercunt Dirt Chopper Posts: A lot.	Back to the fuel LINE....you know that most hardware stores carry gasoline fuel line for less than 50 cents per foot, right? __________________________________________________ "What a sweetheart."- ninja_sleeper to me

December 21st, 2011, 07:13 AM	#34
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	The line is only too big because of the previous filter I had on it. The ends on it were larger and has stretched the fuel line ends too big for the new filter. __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

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December 22nd, 2011, 01:53 PM	#36
JLinde1339 Fighterer in Training Name: Joshua Location: Schenectady, NY Join Date: Jul 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2001 Ninja 250R Posts: 316	I got mine at an auto parts store and it came with the fuel line. Pulled my stock line off, punched out the filter with a chop stick, and cut and installed my own in-line. No problems at all. Cost was like $5 for the filter and hose. Another couple bucks for the hose clamps. I still have the OEM hose, if anybody wants it for $50+shipping....... XD Posted via Mobile Device

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