The Ninja 300 will fail - Page 7

JohnnyBravo · April 15th, 2014, 11:48 PM

I forgot something

JasonG134 · April 27th, 2014, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_5700

The Ninja 300's are selling like crazy.

Yup! Dealership I deal with sold 93 300's in 2013.

Ninjinsky · April 28th, 2014, 06:43 AM

I wish Honda had continued its development of this little gem instead, one of the sweetest 250s, and with a bit of v twin low end for beginners. I know the engine is an old design but so is the ninjette's underneath.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...t250f%2083.htm

capt_bugaloo · April 28th, 2014, 09:10 AM

I see a lot of folks posting that they see far more CBR250s than Ninja 300, but I have to say that where I live it is the other way around. This might well be that Honda support here (Victoria, BC) is just plain better than Kawasaki, or that the Honda has been out longer.

Still, I have seen perhaps two 300s, whereas I see the CBR250 much more frequently.

It would be interesting to see actual sales figures for the 300 vs the old 250r, or the CBR250.

BoBO · April 30th, 2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

The cbr250 really lags on the freeway. As long as honda sells a 250 single, kawi will be winning

+1 The cbr250 is not gonna cut it on the freeway. My 250 Ninja is considerably faster than the little Honda single. Honda needs to bring back the CBR250RR. The only way I'm riding that slow single, is if it's the Baby Repsol.

jkv45 · May 1st, 2014, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinsky

I wish Honda had continued its development of this little gem instead, one of the sweetest 250s, and with a bit of v twin low end for beginners. I know the engine is an old design but so is the ninjette's underneath.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...t250f%2083.htm

When Honda first announced a new 250 for the U.S. I was thinking (hoping) it was the updated Euro version of the VTR250 that came here for only a couple of years back in the late 80s as a 250cc water-cooled V-twin full-fairing competitor to the Ninja.

No idea why they went with such a strange paint job back then -

Also had an unusual inboard disc on the front that didn't work that well.

Honda changed it up later, and produced a neat little naked version that later became updated with F.I.

Wouldn't be quite as beginner-friendly as the CBR250R, but a lot more capable - and fun!

ac9im11 · May 1st, 2014, 07:26 AM

How can someone prefer the cbr250 against the ninja 300, or even the 250, i test drove all 3, though I was interested in the ninja from the start i went ahead and tried the cbr just to make sure I was making the right decision, and nothing from the experience of riding the cbr left me thinking I maybe should have gotten the cbr instead of the ninja, i could name all the reasons why the ninja felt much better than the cbr but you all already know, overall you just feel better riding the ninja.

ac9im11 · May 1st, 2014, 07:32 AM

lgk · May 1st, 2014, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ac9im11

How can someone prefer the cbr250 against the ninja 300, or even the 250, i test drove all 3, though I was interested in the ninja from the start i went ahead and tried the cbr just to make sure I was making the right decision, and nothing from the experience of riding the cbr left me thinking I maybe should have gotten the cbr instead of the ninja, i could name all the reasons why the ninja felt much better than the cbr but you all already know, overall you just feel better riding the ninja.

i agree, the ninja seems to have more soul.

capt_bugaloo · May 1st, 2014, 10:14 AM

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How can someone prefer the cbr250 against the ninja 300, or even the 250

Not everyone is you. Riding a motorcycle is a very visceral experience, and what appeals to you might not appeal to another rider (and vice versa).

BoBO · May 1st, 2014, 10:36 AM

This is the CBR that I remembered when I was a kid.

jkv45 · May 1st, 2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BoBO

This is the CBR that I remembered when I was a kid.

Those are amazing - CBR250RR - 250cc 4 cyl and 19,000 RPMs.

They never came to the U.S. as far as I know.

quarterliter · May 1st, 2014, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BoBO

This is the CBR that I remembered when I was a kid.

If only they had been imported....

Sirref · May 1st, 2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoBO

This is the CBR that I remembered when I was a kid.

that cbr is beautiful, I hope to own one someday. My desktop background is actually the cbr400rr the big brother to the babyblade.

BoBO · May 1st, 2014, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkv45

Those are amazing - CBR250RR - 250cc 4 cyl and 19,000 RPMs.

They never came to the U.S. as far as I know.

I was born in Philippines, and it was very popular there. My family had a business importing/exporting bikes from aboard. With the right documents, you can bring the bike here in the U.S. I remembered a time when those 250's were considered middleweights in the Philippines. I remembered the TZR250 & GSX 250 as well, those were the real 1/4 liter bikes.

BoBO · May 1st, 2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirref

that cbr is beautiful, I hope to own one someday. My desktop background is actually the cbr400rr the big brother to the babyblade.

+1 I would pass up a 600 over these 1/4 liter bikes. Honda made a lot of Fireblades from 1000cc-250cc right?,400rr is the stuff, I miss those dual headlights. Remember the 89 Fizzer with two round lamps? those were nice.

Sirref · May 1st, 2014, 03:51 PM

the cb-1 came to the us, fantastic bike but was only around for 2-3 years
398cc I4 naked mmmmm

BoBO · May 1st, 2014, 06:48 PM

^I remember that naked bike, those were fast.

Sirref · May 1st, 2014, 06:50 PM

I almost picked one up with my older brother a while back, his gf shot us down lol. It was going to be his bike since he loves the style.

ninjamunky85 · May 1st, 2014, 07:09 PM

I'd like to see a ninja 300 go against one of the I4 250's. I'm thinking that the 300 could be just as fast as one. From what I've heard the low RPM power of those bikes were terrible.

Sirref · May 1st, 2014, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

I'd like to see a ninja 300 go against one of the I4 250's. I'm thinking that the 300 could be just as fast as one. From what I've heard the low RPM power of those bikes were terrible.

the N300 is slightly slower on paper but likely handles better due to advancements in suspension/tires (a good comparison would be on equal tires though) the I4 250s would probably brake better too.

the acceleration is close the 300 would have more midrange for sure but the 250s on paper have slightly more top end where the 300 levels off a bit.

the I4 400s are the equivalent to the modern 650 twins in terms of power which would be good to keep in mind

BoBO · May 2nd, 2014, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

I'd like to see a ninja 300 go against one of the I4 250's. I'm thinking that the 300 could be just as fast as one. From what I've heard the low RPM power of those bikes were terrible.

The CBR250rr were fast bikes then, and even now. You can watch them on youtube destroying 600's at the track. The 300 might have more low-end, however, as soon as the rpm picks up just a bit, the 19k rpm machine will disappear. On paper it should beat the ninja 300. I was fortunate to have experience one on the streets back in the days. I remember that the seating position was nice and aggressive . I wish it was mine, but it was my uncles.

I'm happy with my 250, I just want to reduce the overall weight.

Jiggles · May 4th, 2014, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirref

the N300 is slightly slower on paper but likely handles better due to advancements in suspension/tires (a good comparison would be on equal tires though) the I4 250s would probably brake better too. t

What suspension? You mean the OEM kitchen sponge Kawi puts on these?

Sirref · May 4th, 2014, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

What suspension? You mean the OEM kitchen sponge Kawi puts on these?

beats the hell out of the pregen suspension

BoBO · May 5th, 2014, 10:55 PM

Anyone remember this bike?

BoBO · May 5th, 2014, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

What suspension? You mean the OEM kitchen sponge Kawi puts on these?

Are there any suspension upgrades for these bikes?

BoBO · May 5th, 2014, 11:12 PM

To save the best for last, this is the bike we all like to have. It's a nice museum art, the golden years of the 1/4 liter bikes.

BoBO · May 11th, 2014, 10:20 PM

I saw a picture of the CBR 300R on their website, I guess Honda is making a lightweight toy to rival the Ninja 300.

Klondike1020 · May 11th, 2014, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoBO

To save the best for last, this is the bike we all like to have. It's a nice museum art, the golden years of the 1/4 liter bikes.

two stroke kick start ! so awesome … I am drooling

BoBO · May 14th, 2014, 11:51 PM

One day, I will be able to buy one of these legendary 250 relics.

xorbe · September 11th, 2014, 09:15 AM

The new 2015 USA colors are up. Judging by the lack of enthusiasm over on the 300 forum, I don't think the new schemes were well received. White with no decals but with green (?!) ninja logo on tank, green with no decals, and a dark black/grey with decals. Japan got a pile of cool liveries. I think in the USA, because the 300 doesn't sell for a whole lot of money, they don't want to give out the good looks. Each year they miss the mark three years in a row. At this point, you have to say it's on purpose for market positioning.

I don't see lots of N300 or CBR250R, I see HD and SS everywhere in California.

antiant · September 11th, 2014, 09:25 AM

At least it's better than 2014's graphics. Those were/are horrid.

Worldtraveller · September 11th, 2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BoBO

One day, I will be able to buy one of these legendary 250 relics.

I'm only about 5 hrs north of you. There's a street legal Aprilia 250 for sale at the local KTM dealership, and the price keeps coming down.

I can go by and get pics for you if you think you'd be interested.

ally99 · September 11th, 2014, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

The new 2015 USA colors are up. Judging by the lack of enthusiasm over on the 300 forum, I don't think the new schemes were well received. White with no decals but with green (?!) ninja logo on tank, green with no decals, and a dark black/grey with decals.
I don't see lots of N300 or CBR250R, I see HD and SS everywhere in California.

I like them! They're different. I like different.

WilliamDaFrog · September 11th, 2014, 07:47 PM

Well that was a long read, and I my brain aches... Just to find out I bought the right bike after all!

CZroe · October 5th, 2014, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xorbe

The new 2015 USA colors are up. Judging by the lack of enthusiasm over on the 300 forum, I don't think the new schemes were well received. White with no decals but with green (?!) ninja logo on tank, green with no decals, and a dark black/grey with decals. Japan got a pile of cool liveries. I think in the USA, because the 300 doesn't sell for a whole lot of money, they don't want to give out the good looks. Each year they miss the mark three years in a row. At this point, you have to say it's on purpose for market positioning.

I don't see lots of N300 or CBR250R, I see HD and SS everywhere in California.

If you want to talk about anecdotal observations, consider that I now plan to buy one specifically BECAUSE they now offer non-SE green on the ABS model in the US with none of the superfluous stickers and black parts.

Sirref · October 5th, 2014, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CZroe

If you want to talk about anecdotal observations, consider that I now plan to buy one specifically BECAUSE they now offer non-SE green on the ABS model in the US with none of the superfluous stickers and black parts.

damn, I wanted that true green with abs

or perhaps something like the N250 2010 spec edition green + white w/the white checkered flag on the bottom

JohnnyBravo · October 5th, 2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirref

damn, I wanted that true green with abs

or perhaps something like the N250 2010 spec edition green + white w/the white checkered flag on the bottom

Buy some paint an quit complaining

April 28th, 2014, 09:10 AM	#244
capt_bugaloo motorcycle rider Name: Bruce Location: Victoria, BC Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver) Posts: A lot.	I see a lot of folks posting that they see far more CBR250s than Ninja 300, but I have to say that where I live it is the other way around. This might well be that Honda support here (Victoria, BC) is just plain better than Kawasaki, or that the Honda has been out longer. Still, I have seen perhaps two 300s, whereas I see the CBR250 much more frequently. It would be interesting to see actual sales figures for the 300 vs the old 250r, or the CBR250. __________________________________________________ '14 Yamaha V-Star 650 Custom (silver)

May 1st, 2014, 07:26 AM	#247
ac9im11 ninjette.org member Name: ivan Location: wichita, ks Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250, 2001 klr 250, Honda 400ex Posts: 18	not sure what the fuss is all about How can someone prefer the cbr250 against the ninja 300, or even the 250, i test drove all 3, though I was interested in the ninja from the start i went ahead and tried the cbr just to make sure I was making the right decision, and nothing from the experience of riding the cbr left me thinking I maybe should have gotten the cbr instead of the ninja, i could name all the reasons why the ninja felt much better than the cbr but you all already know, overall you just feel better riding the ninja.

May 1st, 2014, 07:32 AM	#248
ac9im11 ninjette.org member Name: ivan Location: wichita, ks Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2011 ninja 250, 2001 klr 250, Honda 400ex Posts: 18
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May 1st, 2014, 10:36 AM	#251
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	This is the CBR that I remembered when I was a kid. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package
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May 1st, 2014, 06:48 PM	#258
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	^I remember that naked bike, those were fast. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

April 15th, 2014, 11:48 PM	#241
JohnnyBravo Certifiable nontundrum Name: Harper Location: NC Milkshake stand Join Date: Mar 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2013 SE NINJA 300 Posts: Too much. MOTM - Sep '13, Sep '16	I forgot something

April 28th, 2014, 06:43 AM	#243
Ninjinsky ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Paul Location: UK Join Date: Apr 2014 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250, Yamaha RS200 (classic) Posts: A lot.	I wish Honda had continued its development of this little gem instead, one of the sweetest 250s, and with a bit of v twin low end for beginners. I know the engine is an old design but so is the ninjette's underneath. http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...t250f%2083.htm

May 1st, 2014, 03:51 PM	#257
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	the cb-1 came to the us, fantastic bike but was only around for 2-3 years 398cc I4 naked mmmmm

May 1st, 2014, 06:50 PM	#259
Sirref Private Joker Name: Ben Location: Towson, MD Join Date: Nov 2012 Motorcycle(s): '99/'01 Ninja 250 "sketchy", '13 Ninja 300 "yoshi", '03 GSXR 600 "merlin" Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '14	I almost picked one up with my older brother a while back, his gf shot us down lol. It was going to be his bike since he loves the style.

May 1st, 2014, 07:09 PM	#260
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	I'd like to see a ninja 300 go against one of the I4 250's. I'm thinking that the 300 could be just as fast as one. From what I've heard the low RPM power of those bikes were terrible. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

May 5th, 2014, 10:55 PM	#265
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	Anyone remember this bike? __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

May 5th, 2014, 11:12 PM	#267
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	To save the best for last, this is the bike we all like to have. It's a nice museum art, the golden years of the 1/4 liter bikes. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

May 11th, 2014, 10:20 PM	#268
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	I saw a picture of the CBR 300R on their website, I guess Honda is making a lightweight toy to rival the Ninja 300. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

May 14th, 2014, 11:51 PM	#270
BoBO ninjette.org guru Name: Genesis Location: Paradise Valley Village, AZ Join Date: Jan 2014 Motorcycle(s): SC28 Fireblade Posts: 463	One day, I will be able to buy one of these legendary 250 relics. __________________________________________________ 94 900RR 04 BMW Z4 2.5 M Package 01 R170 AMG Sport Package

September 11th, 2014, 09:15 AM	#271
xorbe ninjette.org guru Name: xorbe Location: Bay Area, CA Join Date: Jun 2013 Motorcycle(s): N650 (and others) Posts: 408	The new 2015 USA colors are up. Judging by the lack of enthusiasm over on the 300 forum, I don't think the new schemes were well received. White with no decals but with green (?!) ninja logo on tank, green with no decals, and a dark black/grey with decals. Japan got a pile of cool liveries. I think in the USA, because the 300 doesn't sell for a whole lot of money, they don't want to give out the good looks. Each year they miss the mark three years in a row. At this point, you have to say it's on purpose for market positioning. I don't see lots of N300 or CBR250R, I see HD and SS everywhere in California.

September 11th, 2014, 09:25 AM	#272
antiant antiant Name: antiant Location: Cali Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): None Posts: A lot. MOTM - Oct '14	At least it's better than 2014's graphics. Those were/are horrid.

September 11th, 2014, 07:47 PM	#275
WilliamDaFrog NinjetteNewbie Name: William Location: Mountain Home, AR Join Date: Sep 2014 Motorcycle(s): 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300 Special Edition Posts: 21	Well that was a long read, and I my brain aches... Just to find out I bought the right bike after all! __________________________________________________ Love is the feeling you get when you like something as much as your motorcycle. #bikertruths
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