December 29th, 2014, 07:08 AM | #1161 |
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well....I did say Ultimate
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December 29th, 2014, 07:09 AM | #1162 |
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That is for sure! Keep up the good work!
I'll have to put a call into APE and see if they still have those valve springs! |
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December 29th, 2014, 07:16 AM | #1163 |
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they should still have my data. I think they used springs off a 600. I also believe my intakes were the exhaust valves from an R1. However, it has been a while on both accounts, so I could be wrong.
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December 31st, 2014, 07:47 PM | #1164 |
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Thank you! I'll get in touch with them, if you happen to have any info please let me know
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August 16th, 2015, 02:25 AM | #1165 |
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Any progress?
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September 27th, 2015, 06:48 PM | #1166 |
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so...I haven't been on the site for months but I will update you.
I finally got it tuned up about perfect and everything was running great. Then the valves closed up. I shimmed and ran her again for a few hundred miles until the closed up again. All-in-all, 2,000 street miles and my valves have moved 1.5-2.0 mm. Yes, you read that right. To be honest, I am surprised the freaking heads didn't snap off and fall into the cylinders! Needless to say, she has been down for awhile, and now I am sending the head back to APE for them to investigate and correct. Here's to next year! What I can say is that she ran STRONG. |
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September 27th, 2015, 06:50 PM | #1167 |
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Oh...I forgot the other fun item this year. The webcam intake cam broke in half on me. I changed to BEET cams about mid-year.
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September 27th, 2015, 11:25 PM | #1168 |
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Thx for the info.
WTF is this "my valves have moved 1.5-2.0 mm" and this "The webcam intake cam broke in half on me", but good to hear this "she ran STRONG" and you found a replacement from Beet already. Good luck |
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September 28th, 2015, 03:56 AM | #1169 |
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Yes, it has been an interesting year. I'll get her all fixed up and report next year. Sorry for the delay but I guess durability testing did not go so well on a few items.
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September 28th, 2015, 11:45 AM | #1170 |
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I was wondering what happened to this project
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October 20th, 2015, 07:06 PM | #1171 |
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APE checked the head over and determined that I was losing my seats, literally. We're going with nickel/bronze seats and fresh valve jobs all around.
Also, an update to my specs, the valves are 1.5mm larger than stock. |
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October 20th, 2015, 07:13 PM | #1172 |
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Cause of losing your seats?
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October 20th, 2015, 07:28 PM | #1173 |
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Clearly there were too many people already sitting in them!
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October 20th, 2015, 07:30 PM | #1174 |
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October 20th, 2015, 07:39 PM | #1175 |
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In talking with Jeff, he has only ever seen this on one other bike, and he thought it might have been the EX500. He described to me that no two heads of either the 250 or the 300 that he has seen have been the same. He basically compared them to lawn tractors, and wondered where Kawasaki was getting them from. He also said that each head had different clearances, port profiles, directions, valve machining, basically everyting.
In the end, I got a "special" head where the seat material has seemingly been disappearing through the exhaust. Normally when you lose over 1 mm of clearance, the seat has actually beaten in the aluminum casting and an edge is felt or visible in the port. I had none of that. Or the valve face is ridged or deformed, or the seat is, or the valve has strectched. Again, none of that. He said that I still had good sealing and that the valve face was still good. My seat has simply been eroding. Scary when you think about it. I don't think this is a problem with heads that have not been machined as stock bikes have gone great many miles with no issues. |
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January 15th, 2016, 10:33 AM | #1177 |
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It wasn't so much chipping away as simply disappearing. Very very odd situation. The seats LOOKED normal and the valve wasn't showing much wear at all. The verdict is the seat is so low quality from the factory that the heat of the extra horsepower was allowing it to slowly erode away and the valve spring pressure was keeping the 45* angle looking new.
To quote Jeff the OEM valves, seats, etc are "lawnmower quality" @mgentz Any progress?
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January 15th, 2016, 02:43 PM | #1178 |
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I have it all back together but I have yet to ride it. It's winter here!
While I was at it, I added a couple more toys: Ohlins damper with BEET mount Brembo RCS15 Custom front SS line Rear Res delete Block off pins Chain holder I will report back once it warms up |
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January 15th, 2016, 05:49 PM | #1179 |
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What size tubing did you use for the rear res delete?
Jealous of the brake setup, I'm still stock and I cant even get the lever in the right position because the cast in res. hits the handle bar mount :/
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January 15th, 2016, 10:36 PM | #1180 |
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I believe it was 1/4"
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January 18th, 2016, 02:05 PM | #1181 |
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Much appreciated!
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February 3rd, 2016, 11:48 AM | #1182 |
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Bike is all back together. Just need to wash it, lube the chain, put the fairings on, and ride!
Then I need to find a good dyno shop in the area again. It is amazing how few of these are around here. |
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February 3rd, 2016, 12:28 PM | #1183 | |
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February 3rd, 2016, 03:40 PM | #1184 |
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Milwaukee got rain.
I can always trailer her to get the readings. |
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February 4th, 2016, 09:46 AM | #1185 |
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Performance Cycle & Dyno Inc.
15517 Rte. 173 Harvard, IL 60033 Phone: 815-648-4440 Fax: 815-648-4259 These guys are just south of the border around hwy173 & 47 in Illinois. I use them and the prices are reasonable. |
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February 10th, 2016, 01:50 PM | #1186 |
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Its in the 70s, nearly 80 today, how about you guys?
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February 10th, 2016, 02:09 PM | #1187 |
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I hate you
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February 11th, 2016, 09:23 AM | #1188 |
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18 Degrees, a couple inches of snow. Do you feel better now?
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February 11th, 2016, 11:17 AM | #1189 |
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It's going to be -6 Deg F tonight. I don't like cold weather. This is going to suck.
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February 11th, 2016, 11:39 AM | #1190 |
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Anything below 10 and it doesn't even bother me (at short periods of times). When its that cold I get the mail barefooted without a coat on. But when its below freezing, wet, and above 10 is what I hate. Tuesday two marines fresh from boot camp came into the office to show us recruits what it was like. That was one the the hardest runs I've ever done. I was one of like 5 not to fall out though, so that was cool.
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February 11th, 2016, 12:23 PM | #1191 |
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teens all week. just snowed. bike is ready....no place to go
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February 11th, 2016, 01:19 PM | #1192 |
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I just moved from Baltimore and I like the cold in Iowa. To cold to snow. Just stay inside and build the ultimate 250 ninja engine
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February 11th, 2016, 01:23 PM | #1193 |
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February 11th, 2016, 04:05 PM | #1194 |
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Anything I can do. It works great ,it just has to be handled with an eye on details. And I know you are good about that.
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April 13th, 2016, 07:19 PM | #1195 |
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so....the entire top end is off again. APE has been very helpful checking things out, and just today, they re-certified me that the head, cams, and valves are all tip top.
However, due to piston slap issues, I will now need to get new pistons, have the cylinder re-bored, and I am having it Nikasil plated. All-in-all, the cylinder will be THE best it can be as that coating is the #$%. This will help with better ring seal and ultimately, more HP. this winter has been really weird.... |
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April 18th, 2016, 06:32 PM | #1196 |
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what ever happened to @tubarney?
for more information on a bad-a$$ build, check here: https://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=263401 |
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May 22nd, 2016, 06:39 PM | #1197 |
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...SHE LIVES!!!
Got her all together and fired up today. Took her out for a break in ride of about 30 min and she is definitely more peppy than I remember. I will do about 2-3 more break in type rides and then change the oil and go about my normal rides. New MC was awesome....when I used the brakes.... |
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February 23rd, 2017, 06:41 PM | #1198 |
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UPDATED items in italics
Where am I today: Suspension Forks redone and optimized by Ed Sorbo of Lindemann Engineering (Ed also added fork drains at the bottom of the forks so I can do oil changes w/o removing the forks.) SSR Preload caps Penske triple with LE valving and short reservoir hose (will mount to battery box) Springs front and rear are based on my weight and riding style. 2010? Aluminum shock triangle for less weight! SSR preload caps Ignition BRT-is NGK CR8EIX plugs Takai Racing Coils Engine APE Ported head with +1.5mm intake valves APE custom springs New guides, seals and retainers Falicon ultra light crank mods Falicon gram matched, shot peened and polished rods with bronze bushings JE 13.5:1 pistons +2mm BEET cams both intake and exhaust new cam chain new cam chain tensioner ISF polished transmission Worldwide ceramic transmission bearings Custom SS oil line New water pump and hoses Nikasil cylinder coating Thermobob 3 Engine EGR block off plates Lots of new seals, gaskets and consumables (engine basically new) Fuel/Intake CR33 carbs full complement of jetting K&N dual pod filter water resistant filter cover heat shield added to rear of engine for cooler air heat shield added to underside of gas tank Exhaust Leo Vince carbon superbike exhaust with custom header flanges that perfectly match the head and pipe for superior flow (I don't need to use gaskets). Pics elsewhere. NGK A/F ratio gauge installed Frame and Controls Motion Pro VR Throttle (50mm cam) Motion Pro Right Cluster Switch Heated Grips WC Clip-ons Stainless bolts where I could easily replace Aluminum gas cap bolts, full aluminum race spec engine kit from ProBolt, AL sprocket nuts, TI brake bolts, TI oil drain bolt Lightech Rearsets Ohlins damper with BEET mount Brakes @rojoracing53 modified rear brake rotor (shaved off 13 oz or so!!!) @rojoracing53 modified rear brake hanger (captive) Braking full floating front rotor Vesrah SJRL front pads SS brake lines (both custom) Brembo RCS15 radial master, reservoir, and custom bracket Rear reservoir delete Other Fun Stuff Alien Motion Battery (4 Cell, weighs about 1 lb) Pirelli Rosso II tires 110/140 moving to Dunlop A3’s next MicroBlue Ceramic Wheel Bearings Repainted lower half of the engine case New sprockets with a 520 non-oring chain (15/43) LP high performance coolant (no mixing) Yoshimura Fender eliminator Fully safety wired past WERA/AMA specs Kawasaki DB windscreen Spears Racing Chain Holder Battery Tender Super Bright Full LED tail light Captive front wheel spacers (eliminates speedo) |
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August 13th, 2020, 07:53 AM | #1199 |
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So...wow...has it been a while since I posted. Life...
In any case, I am considering selling the bike with all of the upgrades listed in the post below. But questions for the community: 1) Sell whole or part out? 2) If whole, what would be a fair price? Total mileage is around 17K. 3) Any takers? Bike: Suspension Forks redone and optimized by Ed Sorbo of Lindemann Engineering (Ed also added fork drains at the bottom of the forks so I can do oil changes w/o removing the forks.) SSR Preload caps Penske triple with LE valving and short reservoir hose (mounted to battery box) Springs front and rear are based on my weight and riding style. (180 pounds) 2010 Aluminum shock triangle for less weight! Ignition BRT-is (comes w/programmer) NGK CR8EIX plugs Takai Racing Coils Engine APE Ported head with +1.5mm intake valves APE custom springs New guides, seals and retainers Falicon ultra light crank mods Falicon gram matched, shot peened and polished rods with bronze bushings JE 13.5:1 pistons +2mm BEET cams both intake and exhaust new cam chain new cam chain tensioner ISF polished transmission Worldwide ceramic transmission bearings Custom SS oil line New water pump and hoses Nikasil cylinder coating Thermobob 3 Engine EGR block off plates Lots of new seals, gaskets and consumables (engine basically new) Fuel/Intake CR31 carbs full complement of jetting Remote idle adjustment screw. K&N dual pod filter or airbox. Airbox currently mounted. water resistant filter cover (for pod) heat shield added to rear of engine for cooler air heat shield added to underside of gas tank Exhaust Leo Vince carbon superbike exhaust with custom header flanges that perfectly match the head and pipe for superior flow (I don't need to use gaskets). Pics elsewhere. NGK A/F ratio gauge installed Frame and Controls Motion Pro VR Throttle (50mm cam) Motion Pro Right Cluster Switch Heated Grips WC Clip-ons Stainless bolts where I could easily replace Aluminum gas cap bolts, full aluminum race spec engine kit from ProBolt, AL sprocket nuts, TI brake bolts, TI oil drain bolt Lightech Rearsets Ohlins damper with BEET mount Brakes @rojoracing53 modified rear brake rotor (shaved off 13 oz or so!!!) @rojoracing53 modified rear brake hanger (captive) Braking full floating front rotor Vesrah SJRL front pads SS brake lines (both custom) Brembo RCS15 radial master, reservoir, and custom bracket Rear reservoir delete Other Fun Stuff Newer tires 110/140 MicroBlue Ceramic Wheel Bearings Repainted lower half of the engine case New sprockets with a new 520 non-oring chain (15/43) LP high performance coolant (no mixing) Yoshimura Fender eliminator Fully safety wired past WERA/AMA specs Kawasaki DB windscreen Spears Racing Chain Holder Battery Tender Super Bright Full LED tail light Super bright headlights Captive front wheel spacers (eliminates speedo) plus whatever I am forgetting.... |
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