DIY - HID Headlight Conversion - Page 3

grandmaster · January 26th, 2009, 10:03 PM

Did mine last night, took me about 2 hours total to tear the whole thing down, install, then put it back together. Road home from my buddies house (where i worked on the bike) last night about 11 (in the rain). WOW is all i have to say, huge difference, would recommend them to anyone!

kkim · January 26th, 2009, 10:47 PM

and exactly how long would it have taken you without this thread?

Viper-Byte · January 26th, 2009, 10:57 PM

Good to hear you like them

IMO It is really hard to realise just how poor the stock lights are till you install something like these, then you can actually see where you are going

grandmaster · January 26th, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

and exactly how long would it have taken you without this thread?

Ha ha yeah I should have mentioned that (thought i did) Thanks a lot for the write up, helped out quite a bit. Without it i would have been looking at about 2 hours and 10 min

haha jokes... it would have taken me a bit longer (its the fairing removal that was the hardest part IMO) but it all went smoothly until I started putting it back together. The stupid little rubber gromets inside the fairings are all torn and are coming off so I had to hold them to get them back on, and its pretty hard to squeeze your hand down in the fairing. Thanks again kelly I appreciate the write up

kkim · January 27th, 2009, 12:07 AM

Levi,

You're welcome, but I wasn't referring to my DIYs... I was referring to this DIY on doing the HIDs. To my knowledge, this is the first I've seen on this topic and also, it was done to a degree of detail that left little to the imagination.

g21-30 · January 27th, 2009, 09:33 AM

How soon they forget you, if you don't have a green bike!

grandmaster · January 27th, 2009, 10:08 AM

My bad, thank you Sam for the write-up, was very helpful and did leave little guess work. Helped out tons, I just took a good look over it a few days before and I was on my way, went really smooth. I am not bias against the black bike like kelly is though

g21-30 · January 27th, 2009, 11:32 AM

I saw an opportunity for a little hilarity and took it. It really didn't bother me....too much.. ha ha

We all know BLACK bikes are faster than green. BLACK is so fast that you normally don't see them like the green ones.

Let the whining begin!

kkim · January 27th, 2009, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

Let the whining begin!

looks like it's already happened.

Guinss · January 27th, 2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g21-30

We all know BLACK bikes are faster than green. BLACK is so fast that you normally don't see them like the green ones.

Let the whining begin!

couldnt agree with you more.

finally someone who got it right.
also this HID conversion is most important on the black bikes, as we move sooo much faster

grandmaster · January 28th, 2009, 05:36 PM

Well....low beam isn't working now but high beam still does (only the one light) Is this a fuse or do I have a bigger problem?

Viper-Byte · January 28th, 2009, 05:50 PM

The headlights are covered by a single fuse, so it is unlikely a fuse issue.

Have you taken the fairings off to check the connections? It is possible that something has fallen out.

Failing that, swap the high and low power connections where the ballasts connect to the bike and see which light goes, if the high beam only, there is something wrong with the ballast/bulb on the low beam.

I would say start there.

grandmaster · January 28th, 2009, 06:04 PM

Its getting a bit dark here right now and I have some other stuff to do so I will probably just check tomorrow and ride with the high beam on tonight. I don't want to take the fairings off if I don't have to, but I will do what you said and see what I come up with.

grandmaster · January 28th, 2009, 06:53 PM

Well, i just went out and jiggled some of the wires and its good! everything was plugged in good, just had a short in one of the wires coming from the bike. I took it over to a friends how where there was actually light and pulled the wire and replaced it. Thanks!

Viper-Byte · January 28th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Cool, good to hear you got it sorted and it was nothing big

darkknight49 · February 1st, 2009, 03:06 AM

Thanks Sam. the DIY was a big help when I installed mine and thanks to kkim for the fairing removal DIY

murc585 · February 1st, 2009, 12:42 PM

I have mine half-done and will have time next weekend to finish it off. so have all of you had to replace the fuse or has the 10A fuse been sufficient?

g21-30 · February 1st, 2009, 01:09 PM

Still using original 10 amp fuse!

tlj 3 · February 3rd, 2009, 01:09 AM

Is there anyway to do this without removing the fairings. If i just remove the radiator shroud it looks like the piece that goes under the headlights will I be able to do it from there. I have done hid conversions on many cars. My car is also h7 and it needed adapters too. So I know what I'm doing with the lights just really afraid of taking the fairings all apart. I was hoping I could do this with just removing the plastic shroud below the lights.

kkim · February 3rd, 2009, 01:37 AM

have you seen the DIY on how to remove the fairings? It's not hard at all.
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9933

welcome to the forum.

Viper-Byte · February 3rd, 2009, 03:07 AM

Todd, as kkim said, removing the fairings is not hard at all. If you are contemplating installing HIDs, then you should not even be thinking about taking the fairings off, it is that easy IMO.

Sailariel · February 7th, 2009, 12:38 PM

I plan to do the HID conversion even though it is illegal in Maine. The law says that you are not allowed to modify your existing headlights. You are, however allowed to add lights which then can only function at low beam (like fog lights) I could legally put two PIAA HID lights on my bike in addition to my stock lights and be legal. They would be classified as fog lights. There is no way that I will be spening $600.00 on a set of fog lights. If I get stopped, I`ll just play stupid---gee the bike came that way.

grandmaster · February 7th, 2009, 12:40 PM

Yeah I wouldn't worry to much about it. In a ton of states modifying exhaust on both bikes and cars is illegal and look how many of us are rolling around with that.

Guinss · February 7th, 2009, 02:05 PM

maybe a stupid question but, why is there any modifying required on this?

As long as you replace with H7 xenon-bulbs? Is it like this on cars with H7 aswell?

edit: read that is was a car-h7-set, and therefore needed some mods. Have all of you used this? Ive found this: "H7 MC Xenon HID Conversion KIT 4300k 35w 12v". its $90 a piece though, and only 1 bulb per set, but would that work without mods?

Viper-Byte · February 7th, 2009, 02:44 PM

Simen, to go to the true Xenon bulbs, you must use a ballast, that is what the boxes that we have mounted under the fairings are. the bulbs that we have used, come with a rubber surrounding on the bulbs which required the rubber housing in the stock bulbs to be cut a little to allow them to fit.

I believe the difference between a car and MC kit is the size of the ballasts, a MC kit is smaller and due to this is more expensive. But there is pleanty of room to mount car ballasts on our Ninjettes.

kkim · February 7th, 2009, 02:57 PM

From what I can see, the only diff between a car kit and a MC kit is that in the MC kit, they give you only one set instead of 2 and charge you more than 1/2 the cost of a car kit.

Guinss · February 7th, 2009, 03:04 PM

David, its the same ballast as far as i understand. same Watt and K also. I just wondered if its different fittings.

Kelly, have checked alot of sites now, and its much more for the MC kits, and yes its only 1 bulb.

looks like theyre trying to earn some easy extra cash off bikers.

I like the color on the 8000K, it looks great. but dont you loose the ability to flicker the high-beam to get cager's attention? I may change the low-beam only, but then again it will look a little weird with different bulbs/colors.

kkim · February 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM

I flick the hi beam and though it is not up to temp when you flick it, it still will flash enough to alert the oncoming driver.

Just buy a car kit for the same price as a MC kit and install both hi and low lights. If you don't like how the hi light acts when you flick it, remove the hi light side and put the regular hi bulb back in. You'll then have a complete set of spares for the low light at no additional cost over initially buying a single bulb MC kit.

Viper-Byte · February 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM

When I was looking for my kit, I found that the MC kits had smaller ballasts, only one set as Kelly said and was more expensive, care to put a link to the kit you found?

Guinss · February 7th, 2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper-Byte

When I was looking for my kit, I found that the MC kits had smaller ballasts, only one set as Kelly said and was more expensive, care to put a link to the kit you found?

Ok

Im wrong then, when i look at the kit again it actually says "slim-ballast"

Sorry
As you said, its no points bying the mc-kit then

because its room for "car-ballast".

Link:
http://www.mamut.net/controls/shop/s...=htrade&gid=80 (The ones i was looking at, is almost at the bottom of the site)

Is this plug'n'play?
http://www.biltema.no/products/produ...&iItemId=77487
Its not HID's, but they are lookalikes, and only $18 for two bulbs.

Im actually more interested in the xenon-look, than the actual lighting improvements. It says H7, so is this just a simple bulb-change?

Im sorry if im messing up this great DIY. Creds for the effort to take all the pictures.

kkim: yes i will do that. ;-) car-kits is cheaper by far.

Viper-Byte · February 7th, 2009, 03:38 PM

Ha ha ha, it is all good

it seems that the 35W are slim ballasts and 50w are normal sized.

I would THINK that as long as the are H7 style and are the correct wattage, they will be fine, just a simple bulb swap. The pic doesn't show the pins to connect the light socket to very well.

It is up to you if you get the look alikes, but TBH, for the effort involved to install the HIDs (and the extra cost of course!), the rewards are so much better.

Guinss · February 7th, 2009, 03:45 PM

well observed (only the 35W says 'slim-ballast')
no point buying those then. the kit on ebay looks good

will probably go for that when i got the time and money.

g21-30 · February 7th, 2009, 04:00 PM

Guinss, You should just buy the kit with the 4300K bulbs. They are white like the originals, just a LOT BRIGHTER.

Alex A, The headlight Lens has the "Motorcycle DOT" raised letters in the upper left corner, as you face the front of the bike. There aren't any DOT markings on either the halogen or HID bulb. I bet you would be OK doing the HID conversion. Worse case, the civil fine would be a lot less than $600 fog lights!

kkim · February 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM

slim ballasts come in different wattages. I have a 35W slim ballast kit in my bike. Any ballast type will fit our bikes... there is a ton of room for them.

The kit mentioned for $60 is a steal.

Alex A.- stock HIDs for manufactures are 4300K. If you change to that color temp, it will take a cop with a lot of knowledge of our bikes to know they didn't come from the manufacturer that way. The Higher temps are a dead give away that it's an aftermarket kit installed, which is one of the reasons I went with a 4300K kit.

The higher temps are just for looks and actually give out less light.

Sailariel · February 7th, 2009, 07:23 PM

Kelly, Thanks for the Heads Up. I am going for the HID. We have so few police officers in Maine that the chances of being challenged are slim to none. Besides I was a Deputy Sheriff for 11 years in another state and still have my ID. We are not talking about a big crime here. My philosophy still applies--"Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by 6"

g21-30 · February 8th, 2009, 05:27 AM

Justanothermp5 · February 17th, 2009, 07:58 PM

ddmtuning.com has the HID kits for really cheap with a lifetime warranty, ebay doesnt have that does it?

kkim · February 17th, 2009, 08:03 PM

how cheap is cheap and is it the lifetime of the HIDs or the lifetime that ddmtuning stays in business?

Justanothermp5 · February 17th, 2009, 08:15 PM

well they are about the same as the ebay ones price wise but they come with a lifetime warranty (not sure if its the life of the business or the HIDS lol) and i have the same set on my car, cept i paid 120 for the same exact kit

the good brand with the warranty is the Apexcone/DDM brand and they sell a shittier but still good kit (if that makes sense) for 39.95 with no warranty

so i'd say thats pretty cheap

oh and if u go to the site, dont go to motorcycle HID's cuz thats a rip off...you get one bulb and ballast for like 80 bucks when u can get 2 for like 40 for a car and they plug right in

camaroz1985 · February 18th, 2009, 12:23 PM

Well I just impulsively ordered the HID kit (Dang you guys

)

I was thinking of installing fog/driving lights, but I'm not sure if I want to add stuff to the bike. I do probably half of my riding at night and a lot of it on back roads so these will be very useful.

I got the 4300K, in case anyone is wondering. Hope to get them installed next weekend, but not counting on it. I have a lot of projects (too many?) going on right now.

February 1st, 2009, 03:06 AM	#96
darkknight49 ninjette.org member Name: Faiyaz Location: Davis, Ca Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Black 08 Ninja 250 Posts: 70	Thanks Sam. the DIY was a big help when I installed mine and thanks to kkim for the fairing removal DIY __________________________________________________ 2008 Ninja 250 - Yoshi Exhaust, Brake Light Modulator, HID Kit To Come: Sliders, Fender Elim, Flush Mounts, Hugger (much later...no $ )

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January 26th, 2009, 10:03 PM	#81
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	Did mine last night, took me about 2 hours total to tear the whole thing down, install, then put it back together. Road home from my buddies house (where i worked on the bike) last night about 11 (in the rain). WOW is all i have to say, huge difference, would recommend them to anyone!

January 26th, 2009, 10:47 PM	#82
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	and exactly how long would it have taken you without this thread?

January 26th, 2009, 10:57 PM	#83
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	Good to hear you like them IMO It is really hard to realise just how poor the stock lights are till you install something like these, then you can actually see where you are going

January 27th, 2009, 12:07 AM	#85
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Levi, You're welcome, but I wasn't referring to my DIYs... I was referring to this DIY on doing the HIDs. To my knowledge, this is the first I've seen on this topic and also, it was done to a degree of detail that left little to the imagination.

January 27th, 2009, 09:33 AM	#86
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	How soon they forget you, if you don't have a green bike!

January 27th, 2009, 10:08 AM	#87
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	My bad, thank you Sam for the write-up, was very helpful and did leave little guess work. Helped out tons, I just took a good look over it a few days before and I was on my way, went really smooth. I am not bias against the black bike like kelly is though

January 27th, 2009, 11:32 AM	#88
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	I saw an opportunity for a little hilarity and took it. It really didn't bother me....too much.. ha ha We all know BLACK bikes are faster than green. BLACK is so fast that you normally don't see them like the green ones. Let the whining begin!

January 28th, 2009, 05:36 PM	#91
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	Well....low beam isn't working now but high beam still does (only the one light) Is this a fuse or do I have a bigger problem?

January 28th, 2009, 05:50 PM	#92
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	The headlights are covered by a single fuse, so it is unlikely a fuse issue. Have you taken the fairings off to check the connections? It is possible that something has fallen out. Failing that, swap the high and low power connections where the ballasts connect to the bike and see which light goes, if the high beam only, there is something wrong with the ballast/bulb on the low beam. I would say start there.

January 28th, 2009, 06:04 PM	#93
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	Its getting a bit dark here right now and I have some other stuff to do so I will probably just check tomorrow and ride with the high beam on tonight. I don't want to take the fairings off if I don't have to, but I will do what you said and see what I come up with.

January 28th, 2009, 06:53 PM	#94
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	Well, i just went out and jiggled some of the wires and its good! everything was plugged in good, just had a short in one of the wires coming from the bike. I took it over to a friends how where there was actually light and pulled the wire and replaced it. Thanks!

January 28th, 2009, 07:04 PM	#95
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	Cool, good to hear you got it sorted and it was nothing big

February 1st, 2009, 12:42 PM	#97
murc585 ninjette.org member Name: Mat Location: Ontario Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): Red 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 17	I have mine half-done and will have time next weekend to finish it off. so have all of you had to replace the fuse or has the 10A fuse been sufficient?

February 1st, 2009, 01:09 PM	#98
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Still using original 10 amp fuse!

February 3rd, 2009, 01:09 AM	#99
tlj 3 ninjette.org newbie Name: Todd Location: Louisiana Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 ninja 250r Posts: 3	Is there anyway to do this without removing the fairings. If i just remove the radiator shroud it looks like the piece that goes under the headlights will I be able to do it from there. I have done hid conversions on many cars. My car is also h7 and it needed adapters too. So I know what I'm doing with the lights just really afraid of taking the fairings all apart. I was hoping I could do this with just removing the plastic shroud below the lights.

February 3rd, 2009, 01:37 AM	#100
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	have you seen the DIY on how to remove the fairings? It's not hard at all. http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9933 welcome to the forum.

February 3rd, 2009, 03:07 AM	#101
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	Todd, as kkim said, removing the fairings is not hard at all. If you are contemplating installing HIDs, then you should not even be thinking about taking the fairings off, it is that easy IMO.

February 7th, 2009, 12:38 PM	#102
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	I plan to do the HID conversion even though it is illegal in Maine. The law says that you are not allowed to modify your existing headlights. You are, however allowed to add lights which then can only function at low beam (like fog lights) I could legally put two PIAA HID lights on my bike in addition to my stock lights and be legal. They would be classified as fog lights. There is no way that I will be spening $600.00 on a set of fog lights. If I get stopped, I`ll just play stupid---gee the bike came that way.

February 7th, 2009, 12:40 PM	#103
grandmaster ninjette.org member Name: Levi Location: St. George, Utah Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R, CR125R Posts: 191	Yeah I wouldn't worry to much about it. In a ton of states modifying exhaust on both bikes and cars is illegal and look how many of us are rolling around with that.

February 7th, 2009, 02:05 PM	#104
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	maybe a stupid question but, why is there any modifying required on this? As long as you replace with H7 xenon-bulbs? Is it like this on cars with H7 aswell? edit: read that is was a car-h7-set, and therefore needed some mods. Have all of you used this? Ive found this: "H7 MC Xenon HID Conversion KIT 4300k 35w 12v". its $90 a piece though, and only 1 bulb per set, but would that work without mods?

February 7th, 2009, 02:44 PM	#105
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	Simen, to go to the true Xenon bulbs, you must use a ballast, that is what the boxes that we have mounted under the fairings are. the bulbs that we have used, come with a rubber surrounding on the bulbs which required the rubber housing in the stock bulbs to be cut a little to allow them to fit. I believe the difference between a car and MC kit is the size of the ballasts, a MC kit is smaller and due to this is more expensive. But there is pleanty of room to mount car ballasts on our Ninjettes.

February 7th, 2009, 02:57 PM	#106
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	From what I can see, the only diff between a car kit and a MC kit is that in the MC kit, they give you only one set instead of 2 and charge you more than 1/2 the cost of a car kit.

February 7th, 2009, 03:04 PM	#107
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	David, its the same ballast as far as i understand. same Watt and K also. I just wondered if its different fittings. Kelly, have checked alot of sites now, and its much more for the MC kits, and yes its only 1 bulb. looks like theyre trying to earn some easy extra cash off bikers. I like the color on the 8000K, it looks great. but dont you loose the ability to flicker the high-beam to get cager's attention? I may change the low-beam only, but then again it will look a little weird with different bulbs/colors.

February 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#108
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I flick the hi beam and though it is not up to temp when you flick it, it still will flash enough to alert the oncoming driver. Just buy a car kit for the same price as a MC kit and install both hi and low lights. If you don't like how the hi light acts when you flick it, remove the hi light side and put the regular hi bulb back in. You'll then have a complete set of spares for the low light at no additional cost over initially buying a single bulb MC kit.

February 7th, 2009, 03:12 PM	#109
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	When I was looking for my kit, I found that the MC kits had smaller ballasts, only one set as Kelly said and was more expensive, care to put a link to the kit you found?

February 7th, 2009, 03:38 PM	#111
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	Ha ha ha, it is all good it seems that the 35W are slim ballasts and 50w are normal sized. I would THINK that as long as the are H7 style and are the correct wattage, they will be fine, just a simple bulb swap. The pic doesn't show the pins to connect the light socket to very well. It is up to you if you get the look alikes, but TBH, for the effort involved to install the HIDs (and the extra cost of course!), the rewards are so much better.

February 7th, 2009, 03:45 PM	#112
Guinss ninjette.org guru Name: Simen Location: Norway Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R (Black) Posts: 298	well observed (only the 35W says 'slim-ballast') no point buying those then. the kit on ebay looks good will probably go for that when i got the time and money.

February 7th, 2009, 04:00 PM	#113
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Guinss, You should just buy the kit with the 4300K bulbs. They are white like the originals, just a LOT BRIGHTER. Alex A, The headlight Lens has the "Motorcycle DOT" raised letters in the upper left corner, as you face the front of the bike. There aren't any DOT markings on either the halogen or HID bulb. I bet you would be OK doing the HID conversion. Worse case, the civil fine would be a lot less than $600 fog lights!

February 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM	#114
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	slim ballasts come in different wattages. I have a 35W slim ballast kit in my bike. Any ballast type will fit our bikes... there is a ton of room for them. The kit mentioned for $60 is a steal. Alex A.- stock HIDs for manufactures are 4300K. If you change to that color temp, it will take a cop with a lot of knowledge of our bikes to know they didn't come from the manufacturer that way. The Higher temps are a dead give away that it's an aftermarket kit installed, which is one of the reasons I went with a 4300K kit. The higher temps are just for looks and actually give out less light.

February 7th, 2009, 07:23 PM	#115
Sailariel ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Alex Location: Belfast, ME Join Date: Jul 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Honda NT-700-V, formerly, Green 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: A lot.	Kelly, Thanks for the Heads Up. I am going for the HID. We have so few police officers in Maine that the chances of being challenged are slim to none. Besides I was a Deputy Sheriff for 11 years in another state and still have my ID. We are not talking about a big crime here. My philosophy still applies--"Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by 6"