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Old February 3rd, 2022, 10:49 AM   #1
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Exclamation Key no key HELP

Hey everyone.... My brother lost the key somewhere been over a month havent found it so gonna replace the ignition I guess any one know how to make it start with any key like drilling it out?? And would a 2012 ignition and gas cap fit the 2002 or did they change it?? Thanks everyone
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Old February 3rd, 2022, 11:30 AM   #2
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Easiest would be to take the lock cylinder from the seat lock to a locksmith and get a new one made.
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Old February 3rd, 2022, 11:53 AM   #3
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Yea had to call 4 different locksmiths no we don't do motorcycles no we don't call Pop-A-Lock LOL waiting to see if I can meet him and get the key made I already took off the handlebars brother lay it down the night he lost the key so took front fairing off and then the handlebars to get the ignition off couldn't unbolt it from the trees
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Don't bother unbolting the cylinder from the triple trees, that's a pia. Just pop the seat off and get the cylinder that attaches to that tail fairing and take it to an old mom'n'pop lock shop. They won't even care if it's off a bike, cutting a new one is simple.
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KAWASAKI Motorcycle and ATV Keys CUT TO YOUR NUMBER or CODE Ignition Switch

https://www.ebay.com/itm/11207705335...cAAOSwBahU3Pv6

key # should be on (or near) the backside of helmet lock, and if successful @ $16.99, both ignition and helmet lock will still match up

ALWAYS have spares on hand! After key is confirmed working, have more made up!
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Old February 3rd, 2022, 01:35 PM   #6
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After calling 20 places finally found someone that will cut it but god bunch of lock smiths said no what why can't be that hard to cut a key smh would think that
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Old February 3rd, 2022, 03:37 PM   #7
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You need software to convert key-code to cut codes for machine and many places don't have it. Surprisingly dealers don't have it either!

One sure way is send code to:

Hillbilly Cycles in West Virginia
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Excellent customer service and you'll get brand-new key in less than week. They've even sent keys to Ninjette members in Canada!

After I got master key made, I ordered new-gen style bigger key blank and walked up to SF Chinatown for lunch and had it copied for $1.09. Critical step is to tell them to cut key from shoulder down so length will be correct. Some of these blanks are 1-2mm too long.


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Old February 9th, 2022, 12:22 PM   #8
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Helmet lock code didn't work on ignition or gas tank I'll have to return these keys and just buy a new ignition I guess smh was hoping it would work
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Old February 10th, 2022, 01:46 AM   #9
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Did one key work everywhere before? I suspect locksmitb didn't do it properly.

Give Hillbilly a try. Still cheaper than new ignition.
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Old February 10th, 2022, 11:55 AM   #10
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I'll have him cut just one and see if it works cut 3 thinking it would and sending them back
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Old February 14th, 2022, 09:49 AM   #11
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I believe the helmet lock has fewer pins, much like the valet key that was included with my 2011 Toyota Corolla. The valet key doesn’t have the teeth needed to open the glove box… or trunk if I lock it (half turn the opposite way after closing). This keeps a valet or other guest driver out of your personal stuff when handing the key over for them to park your car or temporarily drive it somewhere.

If the helmet lock is made similarly then I would not expect that key to work with the ignition. Perhaps the extra teeth can be cut into it according to the key code so that these keys are not wasted.
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Helmet lock code didn't work on ignition or gas tank I'll have to return these keys and just buy a new ignition I guess smh was hoping it would work
I assume he just gave locksmith 4-digit Z---- code from helmet lock. With proper software, it would spit out cut-codes for machine. But if he gave locksmith helmet lock and guy tried to reverse-engineer a key for that lock, not so good... Also note that pregen '88-94 uses different key-blank than '95-07 models. Earlier blanks for '88-94 will NOT work on '95-07 bikes. While '95-07 blanks are backwards-compatible and will work for all pregens '88-07. If locksmith asks you if you've got early or late pre-gen, then you know they've got experience with these bikes. If not, look elsewhere.

Find better locksmith, I used Pop-A-Lock Locksmith Bay Area in Oakland and just gave them key-code over phone. Picked up key on way back from work next day (they used proper JMA blank too! picture above). It worked perfectly in my pre-gen's ignition, tank and helmet-lock!
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Old February 14th, 2022, 02:27 PM   #13
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Gave him the Z5414 hemlock code he said he talked to Kawasaki and the was another setting and he sent another key hopefully it will work
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Old February 16th, 2022, 05:38 AM   #14
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I had that problem with a ignition key once..... I cured the problem by taking the tumblers out completely and putting it back together my honda 305 key would then fit the honda 90 LOL.....
that's a bit drastic though.... back in those days we didn't worry about theft.
a bloody toggle switch would have worked and been faster to do
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I concur I had a similar problem and wound up finding a lock smith that does motorcycles. I am now restoring my whole motorcycle because I decided to take the triple clamp off.
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Old February 16th, 2022, 09:27 PM   #16
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Friday new key coming it works I'll be happy if not is it possible to get away with putting a toggle switch on it I thought it had to have a resistor or something and taking the tomblers out possibly Friday figuring it out input welcome I'll reply Friday with if the key works or not night every one ✌️I wanna ride again come on keyyyyy
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Old February 17th, 2022, 02:52 PM   #17
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New key worked thank God I'm put the new front fairing I bought on and getting it back together just gotta put carb on and ready to put some more miles on it gotta order some new front turn signals and planning on painting it all flat black
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Woohoo!!!!
Now go make 10 copies of that key and hide them everywhere!!!
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Old February 17th, 2022, 04:52 PM   #19
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Yup got 3 on the way rode it just a little but it was almost dark and want to tune it and run it in the day tomorrow before I drive it in the dark
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HA ! well done !
that problem is solved !
be careful you ain't been on a bike in a while so take it easy.... practice stopping again !
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HA ! well done !
that problem is solved !
be careful you ain't been on a bike in a while so take it easy.... practice stopping again !
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Yup yup no wheelies for a couple days check my other post pics and idea looks better I think
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I too can make keys for the Kawasakis and many other brands by the key code number.
Also from a picture of the key some times.
Have made keys to motorcycles using special tools as well.
I'm a locksmith.

The Z series Kawasaki codes do have two series in the computer; old and new.
Most of the key cuts (bittings) are the same in the old and new series, but some are different for the same Z number. Not sure when the switch over from old to new occured.






Best to email me if you want some information on cutting a key.
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Thanks for info Bob!

I suspect switchover in codes occured in 1995+ generation change with change in key-blanks.
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Old February 22nd, 2022, 05:16 PM   #24
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Yeah I though I was screwed but it was the other cut got 3 made and threw the spares in the tool box
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I was able to go to a general locksmith that cut out a brand new master key from my ignition when I brought the bike to them. My existing keys were too worn to be making extra copies from and the helmet lock code didn't create a working key. They even had the appropriate ilco key blanks on hand. It was surprisingly cheap too. I didn't realize what a gem of a locksmith that was until seeing people having issues getting a locksmith willing to deal with a bike cuz they didn't even specialize in bikes or anything!
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