Rear Brake Light Flasher (no-cut!) for the 2008 Ninja 250R

Alex · August 28th, 2008, 01:18 PM

I came across this link, and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.

M-Oorb · December 5th, 2008, 01:26 PM

I bought this about 3 weeks ago and put it on my bike. I have had a couple cars tell me at stop lights that my brake light was flashing...all I could do was smile. This means they saw it and thus this simple mod is very effective. I love feeling safer when Im riding with all those crazy floridian drivers

Cochese · December 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM

My first mod.

Installed on the bike with zero miles before the maiden voyage!

headshrink · December 19th, 2008, 06:36 PM

I have one on mine too.... I like it.

My wife was following me one night and later told me that that single red light in the night blends in with everything else, but when it starts to flash it pops out. Best mod for the $$ (IMN2BHO).

g21-30 · December 27th, 2008, 06:34 PM

Me too. Put mine in earlier this week!

GreezMunky · December 27th, 2008, 06:53 PM

I also have one. One of my first mods, even before the fender elim. Anything that might help cagers see that I'm slowing down and not plow into me is fine by me..

randomwalk101 · December 29th, 2008, 10:11 AM

yeah basically it's a $5 parts wired up to two connectors...You can just buy the parts for $5 and cut a single wire and attach it yourself.

Alex · December 29th, 2008, 11:48 AM

Mind posting up any links to where we can find the Rear-Alert module for $5? My quick searches online show it for between $10 & $15, then you'd need the proprietary connectors and some soldering skills. Certainly a simple task, but for someone to package them together, guarantee them, and make the task a 5 minute job for just about anyone with no cutting involved, that was worth $20 to me. The price has gone up a bit (I think he wants $28 now), but I can see many folks still being very interested in it.

headshrink · December 29th, 2008, 11:59 AM

Projects like this have always cost me wayyyy more $ since the only easy source I have for electronic parts in small amounts is Radio Shack, and they are $$$$$$. I paid ~$30 I think this past summer for my unit. I agree that it is worth it. The guy who makes them must get the parts in bulk, so I wouldn't be surprised if $5 is his cost.

randomwalk101 · December 29th, 2008, 01:10 PM

Here you go:

http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html

You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

headshrink · December 29th, 2008, 01:15 PM

Wow - that is cheap!

noche_caliente · December 29th, 2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

Here you go:

http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html

You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

I noticed this statement

Quote:

Note: This module is not suited for filament style bulbs. A filament style bulb is not capable of fast switching, and cannot strobe. The power draw of the filament style bulb will destroy the Braker Flashing Module.

Does that mean it would only work if we've swapped out the bulbs?

randomwalk101 · December 29th, 2008, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headshrink

Wow - that is cheap!

I thought you'd say something like " Wow, I paid $30 bucks...I've been boned"

randomwalk101 · December 29th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

I noticed this statement

Does that mean it would only work if we've swapped out the bulbs?

It will work...the $30 is the same unit...just a connector added to "plug in". If you want, you can order the LED bulb that they have there too..LED works better of course (flashes faster, cleaner)

Alex · December 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM

Have you (or anyone you know) installed that module, and has it been working for awhile? LED bulb or incandescent? If so, it does seem like a way to save a couple bucks and get similar results.

randomwalk101 · December 29th, 2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Have you (or anyone you know) installed that module, and has it been working for awhile? LED bulb or incandescent? If so, it does seem like a way to save a couple bucks and get similar results.

back then I have incandescent but now I replaced with LED bulb so it works better (flashes faster & brighter).

Dip In Traffic · January 3rd, 2009, 07:48 AM

this was my very first mod. some times when I'm stopped at a light all alone and i see a car flying up behind me i trigger the flash.. i immediately see the nose of the car dip.. but another thing i noticed every once in a while i get someone riding my tail because they think i keep tapping the breaks

CRXTrek · January 3rd, 2009, 11:20 AM

I used this one
http://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?product=20W-D
Cost $70 , But it just replaces the Bulb.
It also has a Flash Rate that slows down until it gets to solid on.
It also came with an extra Halogen bulb in the package.

randomwalk101 · January 3rd, 2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRXTrek

I used this one
http://www.kisantech.com/view_product.php?product=20W-D
Cost $70 , But it just replaces the Bulb.
It also has a Flash Rate that slows down until it gets to solid on.
It also came with an extra Halogen bulb in the package.

OMG why?? $70? The flasher modular does the same thing...for $5.

CRXTrek · January 3rd, 2009, 05:52 PM

Impulse purchase when i just got bike.
I liked the fact it just replaced the stock light.

Still waiting for ClearAlteratives to release intergrated light.

maxedpenny · January 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for a LED taillight bulb? Are they as bright as stock?

Guinss · January 24th, 2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomwalk101

back then I have incandescent but now I replaced with LED bulb so it works better (flashes faster & brighter).

does that LED-bulb fit the original bulb-socket?

Alex · January 24th, 2009, 10:00 AM

I know that LED can be brighter than incandescent when designed properly. Many cars and bikes are coming with LED signals stock that meet all DOT regs and are plenty bright (including all of my cars and some of my own bikes). But all of the ones that I've seen that just replace a stock bulb with a LED array screwed into that bulb mount just aren't as bright. Right behind the bike in a straight angle they are plenty bright, but just off angle they are nowhere near as bright as the original bulb. YMMV.

maxedpenny · January 24th, 2009, 10:13 AM

I ended up purchaseing a 32 LED tail light bulb from autolumination. BEWARE THEY ARE A BAD COMPANY!!! DO NOT BUY!!!
The bulb was THE MATRIX II LED BULB. It was $12. I like how it still uses the stock reflector. I think that this bulb will be less directional than others. I will review it when it gets here. I also ordered one of the flasher units.

noche_caliente · January 24th, 2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxedpenny

I ended up purchaseing a 32 LED tail light bulb from http://superlumination.com/1156_1157.htm
The bulb was THE MATRIX II LED BULB. It was $12. I like how it still uses the stock reflector. I think that this bulb will be less directional than others. I will review it when it gets here. I also ordered one of the flasher units.

It'd be great if you can include your review in this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11738

That's one of the bulbs I was looking at getting!

maxedpenny · January 24th, 2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noche_caliente

It'd be great if you can include your review in this thread:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11738

That's one of the bulbs I was looking at getting!

I will do that. I ordered them last night so expect it late next week or early the week after.

noche_caliente · March 2nd, 2009, 06:48 PM

http://www.nocutmodulators.com/

This guy is wonderful, and his product is exactly as advertised. You've read about my experience with the other guy - typical for me to try and save a buck and end up spending more in the long run. As a result of the other thing, we now own a heat gun (that the hubby wanted anyway), and spent over $10 in the connectors that I used, and then cut out and had to use to reconnect my brake light.
So two thumbs up for no cut modulators! My only advice is not to get it through ebay - it's $2 cheaper and shipping is $1 cheaper through his site.... ask me how I know

islanderman7 · March 2nd, 2009, 07:02 PM

Who was the seller?

noche_caliente · March 2nd, 2009, 07:48 PM

check out the pdf at the top of this thread

islanderman7 · March 2nd, 2009, 08:09 PM

I was wondering who the seller was because this is the only seller that the search function from ebay picks up ace-at-mind and he is selling it for $2 more and its making me wonder what the sellers name that sells it for $2 dollars less in the original pdf. You said it was cheaper through ebay so I'm trying to find it.

noche_caliente · March 2nd, 2009, 09:01 PM

yup, that's the one - but I think I lied - I meant to say don't buy it through ebay - sorry!

kkim · March 2nd, 2009, 09:06 PM

also, ace at mind is a member of this forum.

zeroth · March 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM

Does anyone know if this will work on the '07 250? Or is the brake light connector different on it? I can't tell from the pictures on his site or from the wiring diagrams in the service manual and online (Babbitt's) schematics.

kkim · March 3rd, 2009, 12:11 PM

why not send him a PM or email and ask?

Sound Wave · March 3rd, 2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroth

Does anyone know if this will work on the '07 250? Or is the brake light connector different on it? I can't tell from the pictures on his site or from the wiring diagrams in the service manual and online (Babbitt's) schematics.

Quote:

I only have modulators available for the 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R. It is possible that this unit fits the earlier versions of this bike, but I did not test it myself, so I cannot tell you that it does.

unless something has changed, he doesn't know if it will work with your bike. maybe you can ask him if it is ok to try it out and if it doesn't fit, return it.

zeroth · March 3rd, 2009, 01:39 PM

Kelly, that note on his website is the reason I didn't just e-mail and ask him. I can buy it and try it, but I was hoping someone was familiar enough with the connectors that they could just tell me that they're the same (or that they're not).

Given how detailed the Kawasaki parts diagrams seem to be, I'm a bit surprised that they don't have more detail on the connector or harness. Can someone take a better pic of the '08 connector and post it here? (Or I can post the '07 connector, and someone call tell me if it looks identical on the '08.)

Here is the diagram for the '07:

All that being said, I've sent him an e-mail in case he's recently learned about the '07. I'll update this thread with his response.

Thanks.

kkim · March 3rd, 2009, 01:45 PM

JC,

Fair enough... you show me yours, I'll show you mine.

Post up a picture of the connector in question and I'll do likewise once I'm sure which connector we're talking about.

islanderman7 · March 3rd, 2009, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

JC,

Fair enough... you show me yours, I'll show you mine.

athimmel · March 3rd, 2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

I came across this link, and quickly decided to try one out. It's a "no-cut" flasher for the 2008 Ninja 250R's rear brake light. Basically, you take off your rear seat, you unplug the brake light harness, and plug this gadget in between, you stick the small unit into an empty spot with the included 2-sided tape, and you're done. I just finished installing it, it works exactly as described, and is a piece of cake to install (and uninstall, if you like).

You have a choice of having it flash about 5 times then go solid, or about 10 times and go solid, by cutting the green wire. I've attached a PDF of the ebay auction which includes detailed pics. Looking at the web page, it appears that you don't have to "buy it now" through ebay, you can just paypal him directly from the website.

Forgive my ignorance, but I'm a mechanical zero. If this works for '08, it should work for '09 too, right?

zeroth · March 3rd, 2009, 03:29 PM

Update! I got a reply from the no-cut modulator guy. Here is what he said:

Quote:

Yes, the unit has been used and tested on every year of 250 ninja from 2001 and up. It has also been tested and works with the 2006 Ninja 650R. I suspect that it will work with other year models, but I do not have those bikes available to me for fit testing.

I just haven't updated the site, yet!

So I should be good to go. Kelly, I'll still take a pic and post it up here. But since my rear end was damaged and rebuilt (ok ok stop laughing) I'm not sure if the stock connector is still on there.

Alex, yes the device should work on the '09 as well. It's pretty much identical to the '08. But you should let someone with at least an '08 chime in before buying one based on what I say.

December 29th, 2008, 11:48 AM	#8
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Mind posting up any links to where we can find the Rear-Alert module for $5? My quick searches online show it for between $10 & $15, then you'd need the proprietary connectors and some soldering skills. Certainly a simple task, but for someone to package them together, guarantee them, and make the task a 5 minute job for just about anyone with no cutting involved, that was worth $20 to me. The price has gone up a bit (I think he wants $28 now), but I can see many folks still being very interested in it. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

December 29th, 2008, 01:29 PM	#15
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Have you (or anyone you know) installed that module, and has it been working for awhile? LED bulb or incandescent? If so, it does seem like a way to save a couple bucks and get similar results. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

January 24th, 2009, 10:00 AM	#23
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	I know that LED can be brighter than incandescent when designed properly. Many cars and bikes are coming with LED signals stock that meet all DOT regs and are plenty bright (including all of my cars and some of my own bikes). But all of the ones that I've seen that just replace a stock bulb with a LED array screwed into that bulb mount just aren't as bright. Right behind the bike in a straight angle they are plenty bright, but just off angle they are nowhere near as bright as the original bulb. YMMV. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

January 24th, 2009, 10:13 AM	#24
maxedpenny Don't Be Evil! Name: Miles Location: Excelsior, MN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 92	I ended up purchaseing a 32 LED tail light bulb from autolumination. BEWARE THEY ARE A BAD COMPANY!!! DO NOT BUY!!! The bulb was THE MATRIX II LED BULB. It was $12. I like how it still uses the stock reflector. I think that this bulb will be less directional than others. I will review it when it gets here. I also ordered one of the flasher units. Last futzed with by maxedpenny; March 2nd, 2009 at 07:57 PM.

March 2nd, 2009, 06:48 PM	#27
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	No-cut modulator http://www.nocutmodulators.com/ This guy is wonderful, and his product is exactly as advertised. You've read about my experience with the other guy - typical for me to try and save a buck and end up spending more in the long run. As a result of the other thing, we now own a heat gun (that the hubby wanted anyway), and spent over $10 in the connectors that I used, and then cut out and had to use to reconnect my brake light. So two thumbs up for no cut modulators! My only advice is not to get it through ebay - it's $2 cheaper and shipping is $1 cheaper through his site.... ask me how I know Last futzed with by noche_caliente; March 2nd, 2009 at 09:02 PM.

December 5th, 2008, 01:26 PM	#2
M-Oorb ninjette.org sage Name: Matt Location: South East Florida/Rutgers University Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250r (Fastest Color) Posts: 914	I bought this about 3 weeks ago and put it on my bike. I have had a couple cars tell me at stop lights that my brake light was flashing...all I could do was smile. This means they saw it and thus this simple mod is very effective. I love feeling safer when Im riding with all those crazy floridian drivers

December 18th, 2008, 10:32 PM	#3
Cochese The Grand Royal Name: Cochese Location: Unmarked Rustbox Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R Posts: 258	My first mod. Installed on the bike with zero miles before the maiden voyage!

December 19th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#4
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	I have one on mine too.... I like it. My wife was following me one night and later told me that that single red light in the night blends in with everything else, but when it starts to flash it pops out. Best mod for the $$ (IMN2BHO).

December 27th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#5
g21-30 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sam Location: Northern Virginia Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2009 Posts: A lot.	Me too. Put mine in earlier this week!

December 27th, 2008, 06:53 PM	#6
GreezMunky ninjette.org guru Name: Tor Location: TX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 09 250r (sold), 2010 Daytona 675 Posts: 301	I also have one. One of my first mods, even before the fender elim. Anything that might help cagers see that I'm slowing down and not plow into me is fine by me..

December 29th, 2008, 10:11 AM	#7
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	yeah basically it's a $5 parts wired up to two connectors...You can just buy the parts for $5 and cut a single wire and attach it yourself.

December 29th, 2008, 11:59 AM	#9
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Projects like this have always cost me wayyyy more $ since the only easy source I have for electronic parts in small amounts is Radio Shack, and they are $$$$$$. I paid ~$30 I think this past summer for my unit. I agree that it is worth it. The guy who makes them must get the parts in bulk, so I wouldn't be surprised if $5 is his cost.

December 29th, 2008, 01:10 PM	#10
randomwalk101 self wrencher Name: john Location: houston Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 250r and 07 600r Posts: A lot.	Here you go: http://superlumination.com/braker_installation.html You need that two wires unit...not the three wires.

December 29th, 2008, 01:15 PM	#11
headshrink ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Bob Location: CA Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250r, '14 CBR500r Posts: A lot.	Wow - that is cheap!

January 3rd, 2009, 07:48 AM	#17
Dip In Traffic ninjette.org newbie Name: sydney Location: Long Island Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Kawasaki ninja 250 Posts: 6	this was my very first mod. some times when I'm stopped at a light all alone and i see a car flying up behind me i trigger the flash.. i immediately see the nose of the car dip.. but another thing i noticed every once in a while i get someone riding my tail because they think i keep tapping the breaks

January 3rd, 2009, 05:52 PM	#20
CRXTrek FORMER MOTORCYCLE RIDER Name: Steve Location: On a Trek SU200 or in my CRX Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Rode an 08 250r then rode an 08 ZX-6R until i totaled it on 7/10/10 Posts: 758	Impulse purchase when i just got bike. I liked the fact it just replaced the stock light. Still waiting for ClearAlteratives to release intergrated light.

January 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM	#21
maxedpenny Don't Be Evil! Name: Miles Location: Excelsior, MN Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 92	Does anyone have any recommendations for a LED taillight bulb? Are they as bright as stock?

March 2nd, 2009, 07:02 PM	#28
islanderman7 The Sexy Filipino Name: Jordan Location: Bakersfield, Ca Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2008 (da black one) Posts: 312	Who was the seller?

March 2nd, 2009, 07:48 PM	#29
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	check out the pdf at the top of this thread

March 2nd, 2009, 08:09 PM	#30
islanderman7 The Sexy Filipino Name: Jordan Location: Bakersfield, Ca Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R 2008 (da black one) Posts: 312	I was wondering who the seller was because this is the only seller that the search function from ebay picks up ace-at-mind and he is selling it for $2 more and its making me wonder what the sellers name that sells it for $2 dollars less in the original pdf. You said it was cheaper through ebay so I'm trying to find it.

March 2nd, 2009, 09:01 PM	#31
noche_caliente ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Kim Location: mundo de ensueño Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): '08 250 Posts: A lot.	yup, that's the one - but I think I lied - I meant to say don't buy it through ebay - sorry!

March 2nd, 2009, 09:06 PM	#32
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	also, ace at mind is a member of this forum.

March 3rd, 2009, 11:31 AM	#33
zeroth weekend rider Name: JC Location: Central IL Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '05 Ninja 250 Posts: 87	Does anyone know if this will work on the '07 250? Or is the brake light connector different on it? I can't tell from the pictures on his site or from the wiring diagrams in the service manual and online (Babbitt's) schematics.

March 3rd, 2009, 12:11 PM	#34
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	why not send him a PM or email and ask?

March 3rd, 2009, 01:39 PM	#36
zeroth weekend rider Name: JC Location: Central IL Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): '05 Ninja 250 Posts: 87	Kelly, that note on his website is the reason I didn't just e-mail and ask him. I can buy it and try it, but I was hoping someone was familiar enough with the connectors that they could just tell me that they're the same (or that they're not). Given how detailed the Kawasaki parts diagrams seem to be, I'm a bit surprised that they don't have more detail on the connector or harness. Can someone take a better pic of the '08 connector and post it here? (Or I can post the '07 connector, and someone call tell me if it looks identical on the '08.) Here is the diagram for the '07: All that being said, I've sent him an e-mail in case he's recently learned about the '07. I'll update this thread with his response. Thanks. Last futzed with by zeroth; March 3rd, 2009 at 02:02 PM. Reason: added diagram

March 3rd, 2009, 01:45 PM	#37
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	JC, Fair enough... you show me yours, I'll show you mine. Post up a picture of the connector in question and I'll do likewise once I'm sure which connector we're talking about.

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