Traffic Light Sensors Ignoring Bikes

[ally99]

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Hi everyone, how are you doing?

The other day I was stopped at a red light. I was stuck sitting there for (I kid you not) 10 minutes. The light remained red the entire time! And there was barely any traffic coming from the other way!!

The light only switched once a car pulled up behind me... that is so annoying..

I heard that some people buy a "sensor" or something like that to help fix this problem..

Does anybody have a suggestion on which sensor to buy or other equipment? It's getting to the point where I am going to have to start running red lights, which I do not want to do.

Thanks everyone!

Originally Posted by Hero Danny

Read through it, no answers really. Has anybody found a solid fix for the issue at hand? Or are we stuck running red lights? :/

Use common safety sense and run 'em.

[alex.s]

+1 just run that ****

[Alex]

You're tedious.

[reroka]

I had no idea I could do this in North Carolina. Hell yeah. I have a light down the street I have sat at for 10 mins because the light would not change and I sat there waiting for another car to come.

Originally Posted by DaBlue1

This is old news, but I ran across some interesting info a while back in the state of North Carolina. You can legally run red lights on a motorcycle....albeit a few small caveats. Also it seems a few more states allow the same or similar thing.
Check your state and see if there is a law that allows the same as others.

Check the link for the story. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ght-laws_N.htm

Missouri & Virginia have also adopted similar laws.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...motorcyclists/
http://www.vagazette.com/articles/20...8030203894.txt

Georgia could next to approve a similar law as well.
http://www.clutchandchrome.com/news/...sts-red-lights

[DaBlue1]

Originally Posted by reroka

I had no idea I could do this in North Carolina. Hell yeah. I have a light down the street I have sat at for 10 mins because the light would not change and I sat there waiting for another car to come.

North Carolina General Statute 20-158 allows a motorcycle to proceeed through a red light under limited circumstances. This statute is meant to serve as a defense to any citation issued to a motorcyclist for proceeding through a red light that qualifies under the statute.

A group of us (10 Ninja 250's) had to run a light a couple of years ago on our way to the Diamondback. Didn't matter how many bikes we had on the ground sensor.

[reroka]

Thanks for the info. So when I get to this stop down the road from I longer have sit for another come to come. I will just run the red light safely of course.

Originally Posted by DaBlue1

North Carolina General Statute 20-158 allows a motorcycle to proceeed through a red light under limited circumstances. This statute is meant to serve as a defense to any citation issued to a motorcyclist for proceeding through a red light that qualifies under the statute.

A group of us (10 Ninja 250's) had to run a light a couple of years ago on our way to the Diamondback. Didn't matter how many bikes we had on the ground sensor.

[allanoue]

http://www.safe-route.org/laws/State...-warticles.pdf

13 States had allowances for un-responsive lights for motorcycles or both motorcycles and
bicycles. All the states language only specified that the operator proceed with caution and not
interfere with another’s ROW who was lawfully crossing (language varies). They do not provide
the additional guidance and restrictions in HB327. Wait time varies.
o Bicycle and Motorcycle

Colorado – non-intersections only, “several” cycles, 1995

Idaho – Bicycles don’t need to wait, m/c one full cycle,

Illinois – Other than Chicago, reasonable period of time

Kansas – reasonable period of time

Pennsylvania – no time period, treat as stop sign, 2001

South Carolina – 2 minutes, 2008

Tennessee – no time limit

Virginia – lesser of 2 cycles or 2 minutes, treat as stop sign, 2011

Wisconsin – 45 seconds (Bicycles do not need to wait a specific time), 2005
o Bicycle Only

None Found
o Motorcycle Only

Arkansas – no time limit

Minnesota – unreasonable time, before 2002

Oklahoma – no time limit, 2010

North Carolina - 3 Minutes

[allanoue]

A traffic light that does not detect you is a malfunctioning traffic light and should be treated as such. If you are ticketed, it is a easy ticket to beat.

[WeekEndRider]

Put a couple of Red Light Magnets under your bike one on the lower Right and Left side. Pull up to where the magnetic strips meet just above the white stop line. These are strong magnets I got mind at Amazon.com They really Work guys.

[headshrink]

Sugar pills.

[cadd]

I usually turn right on red (legal where I am) and just make a turn back in the direction I originally wanted to go. Or if I'm at a location that does not a right on red, I just shut the motor off and push the bike across as a pedestrian. Only had to do that once. Kinda sucked.

[supersport]

i have the same problem going into my neighborhood from the freeway. The red light doesn't turn for me. If i make a right turn its all non bike friendly red light for another 3 miles . So i don't even have the option of making right turn and then a U-turn. My option is taking an early exit off the freeway and run local for 10 minutes.

[CZroe]

Originally Posted by WeekEndRider

Put a couple of Red Light Magnets under your bike one on the lower Right and Left side. Pull up to where the magnetic strips meet just above the white stop line. These are strong magnets I got mind at Amazon.com They really Work guys.

You sure about that? Commuting by bike for graveyard shifts, I had a list of induction loop sensor lights in San Diego which NEVER worked for me on the bike. Not just hard, difficult, or sometimes working, but NEVER working without a car coming to save me. I added a Green Light Trigger XP or HP or whichever was the strongest. After years or testing not even a single one was ever triggered with it. They continued working right away with any car. I tried every trick in the book too: Kickstand, starter, aligning rims, leaning, any and all combinations of these, etc.

[Rifleman]

Cow magnets. I just zip tied one through the drain hole on the TLR and it sits about 6 inches off the ground. Fixed all the "no signal lights" on my route but for one.

You would be amazed how much stuff that little bugger picks up off the road.

[Kscreations08]

Originally Posted by allanoue

http://www.safe-route.org/laws/State...-warticles.pdf

13 States had allowances for un-responsive lights for motorcycles or both motorcycles and
bicycles. All the states language only specified that the operator proceed with caution and not
interfere with another’s ROW who was lawfully crossing (language varies). They do not provide
the additional guidance and restrictions in HB327. Wait time varies.
o Bicycle and Motorcycle

Colorado – non-intersections only, “several” cycles, 1995

Idaho – Bicycles don’t need to wait, m/c one full cycle,

Illinois – Other than Chicago, reasonable period of time

Kansas – reasonable period of time

Pennsylvania – no time period, treat as stop sign, 2001

South Carolina – 2 minutes, 2008

Tennessee – no time limit

Virginia – lesser of 2 cycles or 2 minutes, treat as stop sign, 2011

Wisconsin – 45 seconds (Bicycles do not need to wait a specific time), 2005
o Bicycle Only

None Found
o Motorcycle Only

Arkansas – no time limit

Minnesota – unreasonable time, before 2002

Oklahoma – no time limit, 2010

North Carolina - 3 Minutes

Just to be sure I have this right, in PA, I can run a malfunctioning redlight, with no wait time. Is this just lefts, or all directions?

[allanoue]

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

Just to be sure I have this right, in PA, I can run a malfunctioning redlight, with no wait time. Is this just lefts, or all directions?

all directions. You do need to know that it is malfunctioning (not detecting you) So if it is a light you know does not detect motorcycles, just teat it like a stop sign. If you are unfamiliar with the light you will need to sit a minute before running.