Ecotrons and Koso Question

[msebastian]

Looking into the ecotrons efi kit and koso gauge for a winter mod. My question is has anybody installed a ecotrons efi kit and a koso gauge. If so does it the gauge work properly and was there anything extra needed to get the gauge to work. How is the fuel gauge working on the koso gauge. Just let me know all of your valuable info on running both. I am also doing a full yoshi exhaust, emission delete, airbox delete, and running the K&N air pod. Should be nice when done.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by msebastian

Should be nice and loud when done.

fxt

Dunno about Koso and ecotrons but there is one guy in the GB that's going to try it

[Vergil]

Jiggles that avatar is hypnotic. And I had a hard time explaining this wasn't a porn site at work when my boss looked over my shoulder.

[dubojr1]

Read thru this thread. We discussed it in there.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108681

[msebastian]

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Read thru this thread. We discussed it in there.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108681

Thanks that helps out alot. But it seems as of now there is no one running both kits. Hopefully someone will have both before winter comes along.

[msebastian]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

fxt

Dunno about Koso and ecotrons but there is one guy in the GB that's going to try it

What do you mean Loud.

[Jiggles]

Yoshi pipes terrorize neighborhoods

[Scattcatt]

I've got everything you've listed, removed air box, snorkel delete, K&N Pods, full Yoshi, Ecotrons and Koso among other things. The gauge cluster as a whole works great, only the fuel gauge is off by quite a lot. On the 100 ohm setting, on a full tank (as in, just filled it up) the fuel gauge will say that I'm at just over half a tank. When you actually get to half a tank it will register pretty much empty. On the 530 ohm setting (or whatever the other one is) it will register nearly full even while on an empty tank. I chose to stick with the 100 ohm setting and to wait for the very last gas bar to go away. It seems that I have about .7-1.1 gallons left at that point which isn't all that bad. Just ignore it while it sits there and flashes at you claiming to be out of gas lol.

[Racer x]

I never had a problem with the gas gauge and the KOSO dash. I will have to check which setting I use.

[lamchops]

Originally Posted by Vergil

Jiggles that avatar is hypnotic. And I had a hard time explaining this wasn't a porn site at work when my boss looked over my shoulder.

[msebastian]

Originally Posted by Scattcatt

I've got everything you've listed, removed air box, snorkel delete, K&N Pods, full Yoshi, Ecotrons and Koso among other things. The gauge cluster as a whole works great, only the fuel gauge is off by quite a lot. On the 100 ohm setting, on a full tank (as in, just filled it up) the fuel gauge will say that I'm at just over half a tank. When you actually get to half a tank it will register pretty much empty. On the 530 ohm setting (or whatever the other one is) it will register nearly full even while on an empty tank. I chose to stick with the 100 ohm setting and to wait for the very last gas bar to go away. It seems that I have about .7-1.1 gallons left at that point which isn't all that bad. Just ignore it while it sits there and flashes at you claiming to be out of gas lol.

Thanks that lets me know that there are others and everything works together. What do you think of Jiggles comment about the yoshi. I have only heared the stock and danmoto jisu in person. I have heared videos but they are videos and not in person. Back to the gauge has anyone installed a seperate fuel gauge with the koso. I also want to put a GI and the efi light by the gauge. One more thing do you think there is a noticable difference between carb and efi, if so what are your thoughts.

[Scattcatt]

Originally Posted by msebastian

Thanks that lets me know that there are others and everything works together. What do you think of Jiggles comment about the yoshi. I have only heared the stock and danmoto jisu in person. I have heared videos but they are videos and not in person. Back to the gauge has anyone installed a seperate fuel gauge with the koso. I also want to put a GI and the efi light by the gauge. One more thing do you think there is a noticable difference between carb and efi, if so what are your thoughts.

Regarding Mr. @Jiggles's claim about Yoshi's being loud, I agree. I have never really been around a 250 with a stock exhaust though so I can't compare them. I certainly don't find it annoying, but I've always ridden with ear plugs in too so that makes a difference. As far as the neighbors are concerned, I pretty much throw the bike in 6th around my neighborhood and coast a lot just for the sole purpose of keeping the noise down.

The main difference that I noticed switching from the carbs to the EFI was how easy the cold starts were (obviously a main point, but I included it nonetheless) and the power on the low end around idle.

[Racer x]

I have the Yousi and it has a removable baffle. I use it as my street exhaust. Compared to the Nojima system it is quieter. I think it is OK and I don't like loud pipes.

Removing the air box will increase the volume of the engine noise.

[Scattcatt]

I kind of wish I would have bought my Ninja stock at times, mine came already modified, I wouldn't even know what the stock airbox looks like.

Did you ever get the opportunity to look up which resistance setting you are using for your fuel gauge @Racer x?

[Racer x]

You did not miss anything. You would have a box of parts in the garage and an exhaust hanging from the ceiling.

I will check my settings tonight . I will also test my sender. I think you might have a sender problem.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by Racer x

You did not miss anything. You would have a box of parts in the garage and an exhaust hanging from the ceiling.

You just described what my living room looks like... lol

[Racer x]

I cant find any record of what I set it at. I replaced the original unit I used when I had a gas gauge. I did measure the resistance, ,It was 40 ohms full and 200 ohms empty.

[Scattcatt]

You have the RX-2 right? You can just go back to the settings menu by clicking and holding both buttons for 3 seconds and cycling through the individual things. Something tells me you already know that though and there's another reason why you can't find it lol.

[Racer x]

The reason I can't do that is the dash I have now has never had gas a gauge. I broke my first Rx2 so I bought a new one.

[msebastian]

I deffinently want to do the ecotrons kit but I may not do the koso gauge. I think that the stock gauge does what it needs to do and I kind of dig the new white faced gauges. So I may just buy a new cluster and see if I can swap over the gauge faces or use the new cluster if the miles are close. I really would like a fuel gauge and if the koso does not work properly than I would rather stick with oem since it works. I may still do it but as of right now I don't know if it is worth the money. I am thinking new rims with the 4.5 wider rear and a bigger rear tire first.

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by msebastian

I deffinently want to do the ecotrons kit but I may not do the koso gauge. I think that the stock gauge does what it needs to do and I kind of dig the new white faced gauges. So I may just buy a new cluster and see if I can swap over the gauge faces or use the new cluster if the miles are close. I really would like a fuel gauge and if the koso does not work properly than I would rather stick with oem since it works. I may still do it but as of right now I don't know if it is worth the money. I am thinking new rims with the 4.5 wider rear and a bigger rear tire first.

The KOSO gauge will likely read as good as your stock one. There isn't anything wrong with the KOSO gauge, it is generally our fuel sending units that are wrong.

[msebastian]

Well after reading so much about both the efi and gauge I may not do either. I do not want to have to hassle with the efi everyday to get the system to run properly and I want the gauge to work without flaws as well. I have not heard anyone just install either product and they just work.

[dubojr1]

Originally Posted by msebastian

Well after reading so much about both the efi and gauge I may not do either. I do not want to have to hassle with the efi everyday to get the system to run properly and I want the gauge to work without flaws as well. I have not heard anyone just install either product and they just work.

Those that install and have no issues generally don't report that. My KOSO installed perfectly and has worked perfectly since day 1. I think your basing your opinion on the 2% of people that may have had a small issue with one of the kits. Is that really fair to the products? I think not.

[lgk]

Originally Posted by dubojr1

Those that install and have no issues generally don't report that. My KOSO installed perfectly and has worked perfectly since day 1. I think your basing your opinion on the 2% of people that may have had a small issue with one of the kits. Is that really fair to the products? I think not.

I agree with this.

[alex.s]

its know as a vocal minority. the same people that complain about video games. 98% of the people like or have no issues with something, but that 2% complain and complain and complain and make the public perception of the thing bad.

[choneofakind]

The efi is great. I'm just retarded at times and got myself all backwards because I take a little longer than I should to grasp new concepts sometimes. (again, ask alex.s about the day he tried to explain how the internet works... ) Its coming along nicely now.

I should add though, I'm not pushing you into anything. Just take your time and read about things. If you have any questions about the efi kit, email Matt. He really knows his stuff and does his best to answer questions for you.
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[Jiggles]

The internet is like an orgy

[choneofakind]

Sean were you on fbook that day with us? I'm pretty sure Justin was in there banging his head on his keyboard because of me as well haha
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[Jiggles]

No haha but they need to think in terms of a 20 year old so I think I can explain it

This is the internet

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Now remember there are millions of men plugging into these ports so even though they look nice and clean they are really festering with viruses. You're going to want an internet security program for that. I'd recommend purchasing Malwarebytes full version. It's thin walled protection that is going to give you maximum internet pleasure. You can also use Norton or McAfee but they are sort of the glad heavy duty of internet protection. Cumbersome and bulky, they are going to slow you down (and sometimes be uncomfortable ouch!)

Becareful when using the internet. Never drink and surf. You want to stick with attractive sites in the range of a 7-10

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[msebastian]

Originally Posted by alex.s

its know as a vocal minority. the same people that complain about video games. 98% of the people like or have no issues with something, but that 2% complain and complain and complain and make the public perception of the thing bad.

It is the 2% I guess that I have been reading about. I will see what happens after I install the yoshi and do the removal of the air box and emission delete. I will have the carbs jetted and shimmed and whatever needs done and see how I feel about the bike then. I am not trying to diss the products but I have heard alot of problems and do not want to be in the 2%. I have e-mailed Matt and talked to him on several occasions.