a little extra boost.

egb1108 · June 6th, 2011, 10:23 PM

does anyone know what mods i could make to help my 2011 ninja 250 keep up with cars at highway speeds more easily?

LoneRonin · June 6th, 2011, 11:38 PM

yea...wring the throttle. If its under 9k rpm you're doing something wrong. I'm assuming you just got the bike...the first 'mods' you need to do are to yourself and your riding habits. Get a feel for the bike and its strengths and weaknesses. You should have no problems cruising at 85-90 mph which is plenty fast for any North American highway

wtfh4xx · June 7th, 2011, 12:06 AM

If you are having trouble wringing it to full throttle without regripping then you might want to try the zip tie modification to the throttle handle.
Makes achieving wide open throttle easier, also shift above 10k.

Seriously, its fun.

For a few extra horses remove your air snorkel and shim your needles with a #4 washer.
See appropriate DIY's around the forum.

alex.s · June 7th, 2011, 12:09 AM

full exhaust, jet kit, pod airfilters, timing advance with aftermarket CDI, weight reduction, turbo.

wtfh4xx · June 7th, 2011, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

full exhaust, jet kit, pod airfilters, timing advance with aftermarket CDI, weight reduction, turbo.

Turbo, indeed.

rusninja · June 7th, 2011, 01:20 AM

only if there was a turbo 250r for sale :/ there would not really be a want of geting something faster XD

oroboros · June 7th, 2011, 06:00 AM

Consider moving to a 15 tooth front sprocket.

KGar · June 7th, 2011, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oroboros

Consider moving to a 15 tooth front sprocket.

That was my first mod, the 43t rear

backinthesaddleagain · June 7th, 2011, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusninja

only if there was a turbo 250r for sale :/ there would not really be a want of geting something faster XD

No NOT TURBO, oh now I have to go look at the turbo build (ahem, turbo talk about a build thread) that draws me in like a car crash. Don't want to look, but have to.

TXJ · June 7th, 2011, 06:52 AM

I'm 220lbs fully geared, no problem getting up to 70 and mingling with I-35 drivers. Just strangle the bike. Treat it like a rented mule. It won't mind.

kaiserz · June 7th, 2011, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXJ

Treat it like a rented mule. It won't mind.

The 250 can keep up with cars at highway speed, correct me if i'm wrong but I think it's even faster than some of the cars on the road today. like for example the new genesis coupe 4 cylinder turbo(sexy beast). goes 0 - 60 in like? 6 - 7 secs? I'm pretty sure the 250 can keep up with that.

Xoulrath · June 7th, 2011, 07:49 AM

If you are talking about keeping up with cars at the speed the traffic is moving, then you should have no problems there. The 250 will easily (and happily) do 80+ mph all day long.

If you are talking about passing power, well, there is none. Granted you may have a bit more than I had, as I weigh 270, but it still won't be much. The bike is quick enough in terms of acceleration to 60, but after that it slows considerably.

almost40 · June 7th, 2011, 07:56 AM

Area P and a jet-kit, pull the snorkel, swap the sprockets.

bdavison · June 7th, 2011, 08:16 AM

I dont know what people mean when they say they need power on the interstate. Im 185lbs and 6'3', and I run up the interstate all day long with no problems on a regular basis. Even passing cars when needed.

Now sure, Im not going to slingshot bullet pass them unless they are going 60 or less, but I have no problems passing cars even when they are doing 80mph.

Its got plenty enough power to get around those lumbering packs of semi's or the puttering grandma.

Twist the thing...it will go.

slolane · June 7th, 2011, 08:56 AM

First do a 15 tooth sprocket up front ($15), then shim the carbs ($1) OR go for a pipe and jet kit (a bit more $$).

That should help A LOT.

blink · June 8th, 2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slolane

First do a 15 tooth sprocket up front ($15), then shim the carbs ($1) OR go for a pipe and jet kit (a bit more $$).

That should help A LOT.

Is changing front to 15 difficult for a bike noob?
Do you know anywhere which has a picture thread? =]
It would be much appreciated!

coondog · June 8th, 2011, 01:03 PM

seems you don't have the experience to "ride with faster traffic" so just mantra i'll never be thee fastest. however as your experience and confidence grow you'll be cruising at 11k+rpm, 90mph, with enough to downshift and pass, especially after a 15T front sprocket is added. keep your warranty, be patient (smart) make your bones with your girl, then take one another where you each want to be. we're invisible out there, peace out.

slolane · June 9th, 2011, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blink

Is changing front to 15 difficult for a bike noob?
Do you know anywhere which has a picture thread? =]
It would be much appreciated!

Sure thing, THIS THREAD shows how to do the front and rear, check it out and let us know if you have any questions.

Jinx250 · June 10th, 2011, 08:21 AM

Quit short shifting. There's a reason the red line is so high.

egb1108 · June 10th, 2011, 08:29 AM

so i take it its best to shift in the 6-7k rpm range

egb1108 · June 10th, 2011, 08:30 AM

and if so is it ok to do that now. i'm sitting at 250 miles on my bike now.

algerath · June 10th, 2011, 08:38 AM

I am not touching the break in part of the question, you have to decide that, those threads get huge and everyone has a different opinion. However if you want to go faster, forget shifting at 6-7k like you said and start thinking 9-11k. Running it up to 10k for shifts makes a world of difference over 6k.

alex.s · June 10th, 2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

and if so is it ok to do that now. i'm sitting at 250 miles on my bike now.

250mi is already past breakin IMO. look at a photo of the torque curve for the 250... basically no power below 10k rpm. don't shift until at least 8 if you want any kind of power at all. i usually ride it between 10-12k rpm.

Green Streak · June 10th, 2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

does anyone know what mods i could make to help my 2011 ninja 250 keep up with cars at highway speeds more easily?

I was concerned about highway stuff when I was shopping around for a smaller bike like the 250. Once I got used to the higher RPM sound, I have had no issues at all. It loves the high RPMs and I do most of my miles on the highway. But I would rather be running through the twisties.

BTW I was riding in your neck of the woods last weekend. I was scouting for some good twisty roads over near N. Augusta/Edgefield area north of I20. I found one or two that were ok, but most of them had really bad paving jobs and were way too bumpy.

greg737 · June 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM

I've never had any problem with highway traffic.

However, I have noticed that the mere presence of a motorcycle makes some cagers act strangely. They seem to feel a very strong urge to pass or stay in front of any motorcycles they come across. I guess the motorcycle brings out some sort of competative "me first" emotions in some people.

And that's okay as long as you just let them go. But if you return this competative vibe by trying to keep pace with them you'll both be at big-traffic-ticket-speeds before you realize it.

So the question I'm asking the Original Poster is this: Are you having trouble keeping up with the normal people in the highway traffic flow, or are you trying to keep up with the crazy cagers that just absolutely have to pass you?

egb1108 · June 10th, 2011, 11:20 AM

I'm not a speed demon by any means. I believe if I was I would not have even bothered with a 250, but if I'm going 75 on the interstate and i need to pass someone don't you think I'll need a little more juice

TXJ · June 10th, 2011, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

I'm not a speed demon by any means. I believe if I was I would not have even bothered with a 250, but if I'm going 75 on the interstate and i need to pass someone don't you think I'll need a little more juice

My only question is, why do you have to pass someone if you're/they're already going 75? If they are going 5-10 below, you'd already be passing them quite easily with a lane change and maintaining speed.

The way you're inquiring seems like it's just out of curiosity, since if this was a recurring issue you'd know you can get up to 85 or 90 if you have enough space, tuck in and dropping a gear to overtake.

alex.s · June 10th, 2011, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

I'm not a speed demon by any means. I believe if I was I would not have even bothered with a 250, but if I'm going 75 on the interstate and i need to pass someone don't you think I'll need a little more juice

downshift.

Klink · June 10th, 2011, 04:23 PM

I seem to have good acceleration from about 75 to about 85 mph but then I only weigh about 145 lbs. I am going to do the gear change on mine and hope it gets just a little bit better.

gogoKawi · June 10th, 2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.s

downshift.

No can do. 75 mph is fifth gear red line.

I pass cars at that speed all the time with no problems. If you want to pass at that speed, you must plan accordingly. It's not instantaneous acceleration like a larger bike.

As you learn your bike, you will understand when you can accelerate and how long it will take to get up to certain speeds. For right now, I would say to take your time and get used to your bike

kkim · June 10th, 2011, 06:06 PM

to the OP... have you even ridden the bike at redline yet to see what it's capable of?

Reddoak · June 10th, 2011, 06:47 PM

Grappling gun. Wait for a passing squid on a Gixxer and hook onto his flip flops.

egb1108 · June 10th, 2011, 07:11 PM

no i have not ridden it to redline yet. im still confused on this whole break in deal everyone says not to ride it hard in the break in period.

kkim · June 10th, 2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

no i have not ridden it to redline yet. im still confused on this whole break in deal everyone says not to ride it hard in the break in period.

depends on who you've been asking.

http://www.ninjette.org/wiki/Break-in

demp · June 12th, 2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb1108

no i have not ridden it to redline yet. im still confused on this whole break in deal everyone says not to ride it hard in the break in period.

you will be pleasantly surprised when you do

June 6th, 2011, 10:23 PM	#1
egb1108 ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: Augusta, Ga Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Pearl White/ Ebony SE Posts: 18	a little extra boost. does anyone know what mods i could make to help my 2011 ninja 250 keep up with cars at highway speeds more easily?

June 7th, 2011, 12:06 AM	#3
wtfh4xx Opinionated individual :) Name: SecretNinjaMan Location: Nor Cal Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 Ninjette Special Edition (red/black) Posts: 342	If you are having trouble wringing it to full throttle without regripping then you might want to try the zip tie modification to the throttle handle. Makes achieving wide open throttle easier, also shift above 10k. Seriously, its fun. For a few extra horses remove your air snorkel and shim your needles with a #4 washer. See appropriate DIY's around the forum. __________________________________________________ Yoshi slip on, shimmed 2 washers, zip tie throttle mod, pre-load #2, snorkel delete 2010 SE 250R! Miles in the saddle: 1000

June 7th, 2011, 06:00 AM	#7
oroboros GDTRFB Name: Drew Location: SE PA Join Date: Nov 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250 - sold 2005 EX500R project Posts: 496	Consider moving to a 15 tooth front sprocket. __________________________________________________ I don't want a pickle Just want to ride on my motorsickle -Arlo Guthrie

June 7th, 2011, 07:49 AM	#12
Xoulrath ninjette.org sage Name: T Location: U.S. Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): Current: '11 ZX-6R; Previous: '09 Ninjette; '08 ZX-6R (Ex-Wife '09 TU250X) Posts: 981	If you are talking about keeping up with cars at the speed the traffic is moving, then you should have no problems there. The 250 will easily (and happily) do 80+ mph all day long. If you are talking about passing power, well, there is none. Granted you may have a bit more than I had, as I weigh 270, but it still won't be much. The bike is quick enough in terms of acceleration to 60, but after that it slows considerably. __________________________________________________ R.I.P EthioKnight (Alex)

June 7th, 2011, 07:56 AM	#13
almost40 ninjette.org Monkey Spank Name: Kevin Location: Illinois Join Date: Apr 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 250R Track-Bike Woodcraft clip-ons and rearsets FZ-6 track bike Posts: A lot.	Area P and a jet-kit, pull the snorkel, swap the sprockets. __________________________________________________ Black 250R Full Area P QC Dyno Jet Kit 100 main 41T Rear Sprocket

June 6th, 2011, 11:38 PM	#2
LoneRonin ninjette.org sage Name: Jason Location: Mississauga Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250r Posts: 634	yea...wring the throttle. If its under 9k rpm you're doing something wrong. I'm assuming you just got the bike...the first 'mods' you need to do are to yourself and your riding habits. Get a feel for the bike and its strengths and weaknesses. You should have no problems cruising at 85-90 mph which is plenty fast for any North American highway

June 7th, 2011, 12:09 AM	#4
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	full exhaust, jet kit, pod airfilters, timing advance with aftermarket CDI, weight reduction, turbo. __________________________________________________

June 7th, 2011, 01:20 AM	#6
rusninja Ninjette wanabe :D Name: Ruslan Location: San Jose Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): white 300 :D Posts: A lot.	only if there was a turbo 250r for sale :/ there would not really be a want of geting something faster XD

June 7th, 2011, 06:52 AM	#10
TXJ Cranky Old Fart Name: TXJ Location: TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 08 DRZ400SM Posts: 189	I'm 220lbs fully geared, no problem getting up to 70 and mingling with I-35 drivers. Just strangle the bike. Treat it like a rented mule. It won't mind.

June 7th, 2011, 08:16 AM	#14
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	I dont know what people mean when they say they need power on the interstate. Im 185lbs and 6'3', and I run up the interstate all day long with no problems on a regular basis. Even passing cars when needed. Now sure, Im not going to slingshot bullet pass them unless they are going 60 or less, but I have no problems passing cars even when they are doing 80mph. Its got plenty enough power to get around those lumbering packs of semi's or the puttering grandma. Twist the thing...it will go.

June 7th, 2011, 08:56 AM	#15
slolane Motorcyclist Name: James Location: Maryland Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2014 Ninja 300 ABS Posts: A lot.	First do a 15 tooth sprocket up front ($15), then shim the carbs ($1) OR go for a pipe and jet kit (a bit more $$). That should help A LOT.

June 8th, 2011, 01:03 PM	#17
coondog ninjette.org sage Name: john Location: Palm Beach County, Fl Sligo County, Eire Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ninja 250 street fighter, 2008 street fighter ninja 500, 2001 nsr 125 Posts: 812	seems you don't have the experience to "ride with faster traffic" so just mantra i'll never be thee fastest. however as your experience and confidence grow you'll be cruising at 11k+rpm, 90mph, with enough to downshift and pass, especially after a 15T front sprocket is added. keep your warranty, be patient (smart) make your bones with your girl, then take one another where you each want to be. we're invisible out there, peace out.

June 10th, 2011, 08:21 AM	#19
Jinx250 Smoker Name: Bob Location: SoCal Join Date: Dec 2010 Motorcycle(s): Guess.... Posts: 556	Quit short shifting. There's a reason the red line is so high.

June 10th, 2011, 08:29 AM	#20
egb1108 ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: Augusta, Ga Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Pearl White/ Ebony SE Posts: 18	so i take it its best to shift in the 6-7k rpm range __________________________________________________ "dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die today" - James Dean

June 10th, 2011, 08:30 AM	#21
egb1108 ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: Augusta, Ga Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Pearl White/ Ebony SE Posts: 18	and if so is it ok to do that now. i'm sitting at 250 miles on my bike now. __________________________________________________ "dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die today" - James Dean

June 10th, 2011, 08:38 AM	#22
algerath ninjette.org member Name: Andrew Location: Bloomington, IN Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2010 ninja 250 Posts: 91	If you want to go faster I am not touching the break in part of the question, you have to decide that, those threads get huge and everyone has a different opinion. However if you want to go faster, forget shifting at 6-7k like you said and start thinking 9-11k. Running it up to 10k for shifts makes a world of difference over 6k.

June 10th, 2011, 10:34 AM	#25
greg737 - Name: - Location: - Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): - Posts: A lot.	I've never had any problem with highway traffic. However, I have noticed that the mere presence of a motorcycle makes some cagers act strangely. They seem to feel a very strong urge to pass or stay in front of any motorcycles they come across. I guess the motorcycle brings out some sort of competative "me first" emotions in some people. And that's okay as long as you just let them go. But if you return this competative vibe by trying to keep pace with them you'll both be at big-traffic-ticket-speeds before you realize it. So the question I'm asking the Original Poster is this: Are you having trouble keeping up with the normal people in the highway traffic flow, or are you trying to keep up with the crazy cagers that just absolutely have to pass you?

June 10th, 2011, 11:20 AM	#26
egb1108 ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: Augusta, Ga Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Pearl White/ Ebony SE Posts: 18	I'm not a speed demon by any means. I believe if I was I would not have even bothered with a 250, but if I'm going 75 on the interstate and i need to pass someone don't you think I'll need a little more juice __________________________________________________ "dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die today" - James Dean

June 10th, 2011, 04:23 PM	#29
Klink ninjette.org member Name: Mike Location: Panama City Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: 10	75 mph I seem to have good acceleration from about 75 to about 85 mph but then I only weigh about 145 lbs. I am going to do the gear change on mine and hope it gets just a little bit better.

June 10th, 2011, 06:06 PM	#31
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	to the OP... have you even ridden the bike at redline yet to see what it's capable of?

June 10th, 2011, 06:47 PM	#32
Reddoak ninjette.org guru Name: Bill Location: Orlando Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250r - Traded for 2009 ER-6N Posts: 424	Grappling gun. Wait for a passing squid on a Gixxer and hook onto his flip flops. __________________________________________________

June 10th, 2011, 07:11 PM	#33
egb1108 ninjette.org member Name: Eli Location: Augusta, Ga Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250r Pearl White/ Ebony SE Posts: 18	no i have not ridden it to redline yet. im still confused on this whole break in deal everyone says not to ride it hard in the break in period. __________________________________________________ "dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die today" - James Dean

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