OEM turn signal not staying in place

[Brian]

EDIT: Problem solved!

I think it was ever since I low sided a couple months ago and replaced the whole side fairing the turn signal fits really loose inside its "socket". I had trouble with installing the turn signal rubber "socket" because the new fairing didn't come with it (or any of the freaking needed hardware) and I had to pry it off the damaged fairing.

It can be pushed in to place but after a ride it will be loose and look like this:


Here's some pics of it:


When I push it in:

[Kscreations08]

Really easy fix for that.

Take the stock ones off, plug these ones in

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

Really easy fix for that.

Take the stock ones off, plug these ones in

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But what's the point? And what do those screw in to?

[cuong-nutz]

Metal plate that the screw goes into needs to be on the backside of the fairing.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

Metal plate that the screw goes into needs to be on the backside of the fairing.

Seriously? Argrrrrgh I am not taking off the fairing again. What a complete hassle that was.

I'll try to reach my hand around the fairing.

[cuong-nutz]

You can do it from up top through the fairing/ upper cowling surround. Just turn the front wheel right to give you room. You'll have to take apart the turn signal and rerun the wires back though.

[Kscreations08]

Originally Posted by Brian

But what's the point? And what do those screw in to?

They are plug and play, fit exactly where the stock ones do. I recommend these because they are easy to hook up and didn't cause any damage to the bike or the lights when I crashed. The stock turn signals maul the **** out of your fairings when you go down.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

You'll have to take apart the turn signal and rerun the wires back though.

Yep, thanks.

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

They are plug and play, fit exactly where the stock ones do. I recommend these because they are easy to hook up and didn't cause any damage to the bike or the lights when I crashed. The stock turn signals maul the **** out of your fairings when you go down.

That is definitely on my list of stuff to buy, there's no need to remove the fairings, right? Also would it be okay to go with the flush mount versions instead of the ones that stick out like stock?

[Kscreations08]

Originally Posted by Brian

That is definitely on my list of stuff to buy, there's no need to remove the fairings, right? Also would it be okay to go with the flush mount versions instead of the ones that stick out like stock?

If you can install the stock ones without removing, then you can do these. I had the wiring pulled through before remounting the fairing so it really was a simple "this wire here, that wire there" and POOF. magic. I'm sure flushmounts will be fine. I just dont believe in them because of the reduced viz. These puppies here are nice and bright.

Keep in mind, while I have no experience with LED set ups, there is a lot of information on the forum about issues with blinking and needed certain relays or something. LEDS seem like a headache to me so it might be something to keep in mind.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

Keep in mind, while I have no experience with LED set ups, there is a lot of information on the forum about issues with blinking and needed certain relays or something. LEDS seem like a headache to me so it might be something to keep in mind.

Sounds good and yup, I'm going to stay away from LED's.

Thanks

[Kscreations08]

always happy to help man. It's what the forum is for. When you do get new lights mounted, make sure you take a picture and post it. Everyone likes to show off the new bits lol

[NevadaWolf]

Originally Posted by Kscreations08

Keep in mind, while I have no experience with LED set ups, there is a lot of information on the forum about issues with blinking and needed certain relays or something. LEDS seem like a headache to me so it might be something to keep in mind.

Originally Posted by Brian

Sounds good and yup, I'm going to stay away from LED's.

Since the original question was answered (yep, metal behind the fairing to hold the stalk in place) I'll answer this as I have LEDs.

Don't be scared of LEDs.

Very very simplistic reasoning.

Your stock lights with their normal incandescent bulbs draw X amount of power, that the stock thermal relay uses to turn on/off/on/off/etc.

LEDs draw much less power, which leaves the stock relay doing nothing because there isn't enough power to get it working.

Instead of relying on the heat, using an electric relay works as it will turn on/off/on/off/etc regardless of how much power is being drawn.

That's for if you have only two LEDs (like the front signals). Adding more, such as the rear tail light or rear blinkers) is when you get into needing a diode to prevent that electricity from wandering all over the place and lighting everything up. I went with the no-cut diode kit and the install was very easy when following the provided video.

Are LEDs worth it? Just this weekend, I had a rider following me who later asked if my lights were stock. He explained that my turn signals from behind were VERY bright and noticeable. That right there made them entirely worth it for me.

Don't write them off so fast, they are a good upgrade if you want.

[InvisiBill]

Originally Posted by NevadaWolf

Adding more, such as the rear tail light or rear blinkers) is when you get into needing a diode to prevent that electricity from wandering all over the place and lighting everything up. I went with the no-cut diode kit and the install was very easy when following the provided video.

Like the flasher, the stock setup is based on the inefficiency of incandescent bulbs. The blinkers aren't able to draw enough power through the dash bulb to light up from turning the other side on (but enough can get through to light up the more efficient LEDs). Personally, I think it's a pretty chintzy setup, and that everyone should do the diode mod. Note that it's also necessary if you want to use an LED in the indicator light (the stock setup flows current both ways, but an LED only works one way).

There's a pretty simple way to do this at the bulb by replacing it with two small LEDs and an additional ground wire, but I'm not sure how reasonable it would be to make a kit for it. I think Tri's no-cut kit is about the easiest way to do it in kit form.

[cbinker]

looks like you put it together wrong.

[Klondike1020]

Metal plate on the inside
rubber in the fairing stalk on the outside.

that way the rubber is squished between the stalk and the plate causing it to expand outward and holding it tightly in place.

[Brian]

Thanks for the help guys. Here's some pics from the work in case anyone in the future needs this thread! :


pull on the sides of the plastic case to pull out base

indicating long green wire and short black/yellow wire positions

the two wires, out of the bulb housing and feeding it around

tada!

[cuong-nutz]

Good job.