Sport tourers - Page 2

highpsiguy · July 24th, 2012, 06:43 PM

I keep waiting for a Goldwing REVERSE trike. Two wheels up front one in back. Unsure why one has not been developed. Basically a Can Am Spyder Wing.

Yasko · July 24th, 2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koenigcitizen

I replaced my 250 with Yamaha FZ6 (fazer) precisely for your reasons. I wanted to ride 2up with my wife, do some day trips, etc. She rides with me all the time.

Great all around bike. Loves the twisties, great commuter, great with a passenger.

I have no regrets

What kinda mpgs are you getting on the FZ6?

koenigcitizen · July 25th, 2012, 08:05 AM

I will be totally honest. I never tried to calculate it. But it is "supposed" to get around 45-50.
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folky15 · July 25th, 2012, 08:31 AM

haha, truly enjoying the sarcastic tone that this thread has evolved to

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I recently got into the look and ride of the Honda Goldwing. If you can get the package with the twin wheels on the back even better. They are very stable (except in corners) and have many comfort features. I've noticed many riders on these bikes to be in the upper age bracket so they must last a long time. The yellow ones are by favorite since you can see them from afar. The pulsing lights (both front and back ) set these bike apart from anything on the road.

Bill N · July 25th, 2012, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by folky15

haha, truly enjoying the sarcastic tone that this thread has evolved to

Me thinks several readers missed the sarcasm. Sport tourer with an attitude? Get a FJR. The Bandit when equipped properly is a poor mans ST with plenty of attitude and performance. The engine is bullet proof.
FJR Bill

250rr · July 25th, 2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

I believe the Gold Wing (3 wheeler) has the look of a modern jet fighter. Sleek, streamlined, ferocious, and very nimble. Smaller bikes might be a tad lighter but not by much. Lighter bikes are usually what they call beginner bikes because they are easier to pick up after slow speed crashes (since they aren't very fast). Sporty is in the eye of the beholder. The Gold Wing trike is one sexy bike.

I agree. I even would go so far to say that it would be even more sporty and stable if you added one more wheel to the 3 wheeler. Then you'd have a perfect motorcycle, IMO.

ninjamunky85 · July 25th, 2012, 01:45 PM

If I was going to get a sport tourer it would probably be one of these.

I love the way these bikes look, and you can pick one up used for a decent price. Don't know how much your passenger would like that exhaust though.

Whiskey · July 25th, 2012, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill N

Me thinks several readers missed the sarcasm. Sport tourer with an attitude? Get a FJR. The Bandit when equipped properly is a poor mans ST with plenty of attitude and performance. The engine is bullet proof.
FJR Bill

Yep, slightly after 01:30 here when I was replying.

Thought the guy just liked heavy bikes & 'plump' chicks, both built for comfort not speed

Yasko · July 25th, 2012, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

If I was going to get a sport tourer it would probably be one of these.

I love the way these bikes look, and you can pick one up used for a decent price. Don't know how much your passenger would like that exhaust though.

Great looking bike.

Bill N · July 26th, 2012, 01:46 PM

I see alot of SPORT in the VFR and very little TOURING. For me touring means long trips with the ability to carry tent, cloths, camping gear etc. for a week or longer trip. But hey that's just me.
FJR Bill (Gotta love the electric windshield, 145 HP ain't bad either)

CC Cowboy · July 26th, 2012, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill N

I see alot of SPORT in the VFR and very little TOURING. For me touring means long trips with the ability to carry tent, cloths, camping gear etc. for a week or longer trip. But hey that's just me.
FJR Bill (Gotta love the electric windshield, 145 HP ain't bad either)

That's camping! Touring is enjoying long trips on beautiful roads, nice hotels, hot showers, a comfy bed, great restaurants, not being a gypsy on a bike.

Whiskey · July 26th, 2012, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill N

I see alot of SPORT in the VFR and very little TOURING. For me touring means long trips with the ability to carry tent, cloths, camping gear etc. for a week or longer trip. But hey that's just me.
FJR Bill (Gotta love the electric windshield, 145 HP ain't bad either)

ninjamunky85 · July 26th, 2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

That's camping! Touring is enjoying long trips on beautiful roads, nice hotels, hot showers, a comfy bed, great restaurants, not being a gypsy on a bike.

+1 But if you do want to be a gypsy on a bike then go for a Connie. IMO a Goldwing isn't even a motorcycle, it's a couch on two wheels.

Bill N · July 27th, 2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

That's camping! Touring is enjoying long trips on beautiful roads, nice hotels, hot showers, a comfy bed, great restaurants, not being a gypsy on a bike.

Naa, not so much, it's camping while on a tour, enjoying the great outdoors. Motels are not prohibited. A gypsy tour is on a Harley Rat bike, with parts held on with bailing wire and pony tails flying in the wind. Searching for weed is paramount. Might be fun, haven't tried it.
FJR Bill

seanshawnS · July 27th, 2012, 02:11 PM

Blah, touring on a motorcycle should feel like touring on a motorcycle. Not traveling in a mini motor-home.

Bandits are popular tourers, as well as the gsx650f variant. Heavy(ish) but not too heavy, gives you a nice and planted feeling on those windy days.

Sv would be more work as far as making it comfortable for long trips. BUt plenty of people do it.

Fz6, which is too much power for me but if you dig it, it's been many a bikers traveling companion.

Then there's always the Motus.. if you have extremely deep pockets. I'd pay for that thing over a frickin Goldwing..nutters.

I'd head over to ADV rider for traveling tips. Plenty of sport-tourers over there.

Bill N · July 27th, 2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanshawnS

Blah, touring on a motorcycle should feel like touring on a motorcycle. Not traveling in a mini motor-home.

Bandits are popular tourers, as well as the gsx650f variant. Heavy(ish) but not too heavy, gives you a nice and planted feeling on those windy days.

Sv would be more work as far as making it comfortable for long trips. BUt plenty of people do it.

Fz6, which is too much power for me but if you dig it, it's been many a bikers traveling companion.

Then there's always the Motus.. if you have extremely deep pockets. I'd pay for that thing over a frickin Goldwing..nutters.

I'd head over to ADV rider for traveling tips. Plenty of sport-tourers over there.

I agree with the above and the Bandit is so under rated in many ways. Very comfortable bike with excellent sporting abilities. I took my 1999 model on a 3000 mile trip. No hard bags just a big duffel on the back seat and a large tank bag. Hit some of the twistiest roads in WV, and NC. I loved how the B12 performed. It truely provides best bang for the buck.
FJR Bill

Racer x · July 27th, 2012, 06:27 PM

For sport touring you can't beat the VFR 800. Ten time bike of the year winner.The bike is so perfect. Instant feeling of perfect ergos. Bar height foot peg placement is spot on.

The performance is not crazy fast. But fast enough and super smooth. The bike is very much at home on the highway.
Abs lniked brakes are just seamless and there is a knob on the abs model to adjust for two up riding. They even have water tight color matched hard bags.

Yasko · July 27th, 2012, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

For sport touring you can't beat the VFR 800. Ten time bike of the year winner.The bike is so perfect. Instant feeling of perfect ergos. Bar height foot peg placement is spot on.

The performance is not crazy fast. But fast enough and super smooth. The bike is very much at home on the highway.
Abs lniked brakes are just seamless and there is a knob on the abs model to adjust for two up riding. They even have water tight color matched hard bags.

What kind of mpgs on the VFR, on long trips and around the city?

Racer x · July 27th, 2012, 11:53 PM

That was one reason I like the ninja 250 better. City mileage as 20to30 mpg. Maybe 45 on the highway . I was not thrilled with the mileage. But it is better than most.

Yasko · July 28th, 2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

That was one reason I like the ninja 250 better. City mileage as 20to30 mpg. Maybe 45 on the highway . I was not thrilled with the mileage. But it is better than most.

Scratch the VFR off my list...

Racer x · July 28th, 2012, 04:38 AM

If was looking I would get an early VFR 750. The sound of the engine is amazing.

Yasko · July 28th, 2012, 06:14 AM

I was looking at 03-06 for the price.

What's the next best bike with good mpg? FZ6? sv650? Ninja 650? Versy? ER 6N? NT700? bmw f800 GS?

Racer x · July 28th, 2012, 06:16 AM

That the un spoken secret. Motorcycles get terrible mileage. I think the BMW 800 is a 650cc bike. They got a lot of flack for calling it an 800

CC Cowboy · July 28th, 2012, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

If was looking I would get an early VFR 750. The sound of the engine is amazing.

I agree totally.

Whiskey · July 28th, 2012, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer x

That the un spoken secret. Motorcycles get terrible mileage. I think the BMW 800 is a 650cc bike. They got a lot of flack for calling it an 800

Nope, other way around, the F-650GS twin (not the single) is a detuned 800, the thumper F650GS is 650cc AFAIK

650cc Single F650GS

800cc Twin F650GS

seanshawnS · July 28th, 2012, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

I was looking at 03-06 for the price.

What's the next best bike with good mpg? FZ6? sv650? Ninja 650? Versy? ER 6N? NT700? bmw f800 GS?

bmw f650gs? Tiger 800? Aprilia Shiver GT? suzuki gsx650f?

I think 45-60 would be about right for the SV.

BlackNinja8 · July 28th, 2012, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

I was looking at 03-06 for the price.

What's the next best bike with good mpg? FZ6? sv650? Ninja 650? Versy? ER 6N? NT700? bmw f800 GS?

If I ride my SV all highway in 6th gear at 70mph I'll get 55mpg. My normal 50/50 mixed driving gets me around 48mpg, haven't gotten less than 45 no matter how hard I've ridden on the street. I've since stopped measuring because its been consistent.

Sounds like mpg is very important to you. IMO you should get what fits your riding needs best as long as it is within 10mpg of the alternatives. Consider @ 5000mi/year the difference between 50 and 40mpg is only 25 extra gallons or $100/year @ $4/gal. You should get the most comfortable bike you sit on. All of the above will be more than capable sport tourers. You'll spend way more than your fuel savings on padded seat, bar risers, mirror extenders, etc. if you get the wrong bike because it has good fuel efficiency.

Just my 2c

seanshawnS · July 28th, 2012, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackNinja8

If I ride my SV all highway in 6th gear at 70mph I'll get 55mpg. My normal 50/50 mixed driving gets me around 48mpg, haven't gotten less than 45 no matter how hard I've ridden on the street. I've since stopped measuring because its been consistent.

Sounds like mpg is very important to you. IMO you should get what fits your riding needs best as long as it is within 10mpg of the alternatives. Consider @ 5000mi/year the difference between 50 and 40mpg is only 25 extra gallons or $100/year @ $4/gal. You should get the most comfortable bike you sit on. All of the above will be more than capable sport tourers. You'll spend way more than your fuel savings on padded seat, bar risers, mirror extenders, etc. if you get the wrong bike because it has good fuel efficiency.

Just my 2c

It's also worth noting that tank range is less important with a sport tourer than it is with an adventure tourer.

Yasko · July 28th, 2012, 10:53 AM

$15 every other day starts to add up very fast for me. That's why I love the Ninjette. Now It's time for me to get up to the 600cc+, and I would like a bike that's in the 50+mpg range.

My list before this weekend was 1st 09 Ninja 650, 2nd 07-09 FZ6, 3rd ER 6N, 4th 08 SV650, 5th 03-06VFR, 6th 09 Versy and 7th BMW F800GS

Looking to do lots of metro ridding, and small 600 mile road trips.

Motofool · July 28th, 2012, 11:07 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_touring

BlackNinja8 · July 28th, 2012, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yasko

$15 every other day starts to add up very fast for me. That's why I love the Ninjette. Now It's time for me to get up to the 600cc+, and I would like a bike that's in the 50+mpg range.

My list before this weekend was 1st 09 Ninja 650, 2nd 07-09 FZ6, 3rd ER 6N, 4th 08 SV650, 5th 03-06VFR, 6th 09 Versy and 7th BMW F800GS

Looking to do lots of metro ridding, and small 600 mile road trips.

I hear you and it sounds like you've thought it through. But I just think sometimes people get caught up over a couple mpg thinking that it will make a huge difference. It's not $15 every couple of days its really more like whether you spend $20 a week or $22 a week on gas (using my previous scenario).

But back to the question you were actually seeking advice on, I like your list and I would think you can't go wrong with any of them. I had a similar list when I got my SV and after sitting on a few at dealers I was easily able to narrow my list within seconds. Depending on your frame, strength, etc. some bikes simply will not feel right for you no matter how much the specs match what you are looking for. For example, the FZ sounded like exacly what I wanted but the moment I sat on it I realized it wasn't for me. Sure I could move the pegs, add clip ons, and tinker with an inumerable amount of variables, but suddenly the cost of doing so makes it not worth it.

From my experience with the SV, the SV "S" model which I have would be uncomfortable in its stock form for 600 mile trips. But for city, country, and 200 mile trips, it rocks. The SV naked has handle bars and a more upright seating position which makes it much more comfy but you lose the windcreen which would be helpful for long trips...

xSean13 · July 28th, 2012, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

Plenty of people would do that on the ninjette. Maybe not so many on the new-gen, but I certainly would have no problem doing a 400 mile day on my '04 250.

Just got back from a 400 mile trip, wasn't too bad, except for the rain/storms the whole way there and back (no rain gear :P)

The seat obviously isn't comfortable, and my throttle hand kept getting sore...but that could be due to how I was riding.

Motofool · July 28th, 2012, 12:04 PM

How the cylinders' number and configuration available for these bikes influences the analysis that you guys do?

Do V-twins', in-line fours' and parallel's engines fit the sport touring idea alike?

Whiskey · July 28th, 2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

How the cylinders' number and configuration available for these bikes influences the analysis that you guys do?

Do V-twins', in-line fours' and parallel's engines fit the sport touring idea alike?

So where do you put the viffer's V4?

Ot the tiger's I3?

BlackNinja8 · July 28th, 2012, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motofool

How the cylinders' number and configuration available for these bikes influences the analysis that you guys do?

Do V-twins', in-line fours' and parallel's engines fit the sport touring idea alike?

While I certainly am not a subject matter expert, I would think the sport touring capabilities would be more about ergos. And while the outlyers of each engine configuration may well make them less adept at ST, I bet you could make a good tourer out of any of the configurations that have good ergos and creature comforts. And I would add that fuel tank range would be a major factor as well.

Motofool · July 28th, 2012, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskey

So where do you put the viffer's V4?

Or the tiger's I3?

Included now !!

Yasko · July 28th, 2012, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackNinja8

If I ride my SV all highway in 6th gear at 70mph I'll get 55mpg. My normal 50/50 mixed driving gets me around 48mpg, haven't gotten less than 45 no matter how hard I've ridden on the street. I've since stopped measuring because its been consistent.

Sounds like mpg is very important to you. IMO you should get what fits your riding needs best as long as it is within 10mpg of the alternatives. Consider @ 5000mi/year the difference between 50 and 40mpg is only 25 extra gallons or $100/year @ $4/gal. You should get the most comfortable bike you sit on. All of the above will be more than capable sport tourers. You'll spend way more than your fuel savings on padded seat, bar risers, mirror extenders, etc. if you get the wrong bike because it has good fuel efficiency.

Just my 2c

Thanks. I'm going to wait for the off season price, and see what's on the market at that time. For now I'll check out the web site for each bike and see what I can find out good and bad on each bike.

Numbersix · July 29th, 2012, 03:36 PM

Sport-touring Ninjette, Pt. I (Coocase Wizard V36), complete:

seanshawnS · July 29th, 2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numbersix

Sport-touring Ninjette, Pt. I (Coocase Wizard V36), complete:

Any pics from different angles?

Edit:NM saw the other Thread

Yasko · July 29th, 2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numbersix

Sport-touring Ninjette, Pt. I (Coocase Wizard V36), complete:

Factory setup, or new gears?

July 24th, 2012, 06:43 PM	#41
highpsiguy ninjette.org guru Name: Kevin Location: Athens Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): 1981 Honda Cx500 Custom, 2002 Ninja 250 Posts: 289 Blog Entries: 1	I keep waiting for a Goldwing REVERSE trike. Two wheels up front one in back. Unsure why one has not been developed. Basically a Can Am Spyder Wing. __________________________________________________ "Rudeness is a weak persons attempt at strength."

July 25th, 2012, 01:45 PM	#47
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	If I was going to get a sport tourer it would probably be one of these. I love the way these bikes look, and you can pick one up used for a decent price. Don't know how much your passenger would like that exhaust though. __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

July 28th, 2012, 11:07 AM	#70
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_touring __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

July 28th, 2012, 12:04 PM	#73
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	How the cylinders' number and configuration available for these bikes influences the analysis that you guys do? Do V-twins', in-line fours' and parallel's engines fit the sport touring idea alike? __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

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Bill N ninjette.org member Name: Bill Location: Tampa Fl Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 250 Ninja Posts: 180	I see alot of SPORT in the VFR and very little TOURING. For me touring means long trips with the ability to carry tent, cloths, camping gear etc. for a week or longer trip. But hey that's just me. FJR Bill (Gotta love the electric windshield, 145 HP ain't bad either)

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seanshawnS ninjette.org member Name: SHAWN Location: NS Join Date: Jul 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja250r(2012PR) Posts: 86	Blah, touring on a motorcycle should feel like touring on a motorcycle. Not traveling in a mini motor-home. Bandits are popular tourers, as well as the gsx650f variant. Heavy(ish) but not too heavy, gives you a nice and planted feeling on those windy days. Sv would be more work as far as making it comfortable for long trips. BUt plenty of people do it. Fz6, which is too much power for me but if you dig it, it's been many a bikers traveling companion. Then there's always the Motus.. if you have extremely deep pockets. I'd pay for that thing over a frickin Goldwing..nutters. I'd head over to ADV rider for traveling tips. Plenty of sport-tourers over there.

July 27th, 2012, 06:27 PM	#57
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	For sport touring you can't beat the VFR 800. Ten time bike of the year winner.The bike is so perfect. Instant feeling of perfect ergos. Bar height foot peg placement is spot on. The performance is not crazy fast. But fast enough and super smooth. The bike is very much at home on the highway. Abs lniked brakes are just seamless and there is a knob on the abs model to adjust for two up riding. They even have water tight color matched hard bags.

July 27th, 2012, 11:53 PM	#59
Racer x ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Iowa City Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawmeracchi 350 2010 Project X Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 54 MOTM - Sep '18, Feb '16	That was one reason I like the ninja 250 better. City mileage as 20to30 mpg. Maybe 45 on the highway . I was not thrilled with the mileage. But it is better than most.

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July 28th, 2012, 06:14 AM	#62
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I was looking at 03-06 for the price. What's the next best bike with good mpg? FZ6? sv650? Ninja 650? Versy? ER 6N? NT700? bmw f800 GS?

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July 28th, 2012, 10:53 AM	#69
Yasko Texas Newbie Name: John Location: D/FW Texas Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 07 Ninja EX250, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	$15 every other day starts to add up very fast for me. That's why I love the Ninjette. Now It's time for me to get up to the 600cc+, and I would like a bike that's in the 50+mpg range. My list before this weekend was 1st 09 Ninja 650, 2nd 07-09 FZ6, 3rd ER 6N, 4th 08 SV650, 5th 03-06VFR, 6th 09 Versy and 7th BMW F800GS Looking to do lots of metro ridding, and small 600 mile road trips.

July 29th, 2012, 03:36 PM	#78
Numbersix ninjette.org member Name: Michael Location: MI Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): Honda Elite 110 (deceased), Green 2012 Ninja 250 (sold on Pi day); Grey/Green 2019 Ninja 400 ABS Posts: 238	Sport-touring Ninjette, Pt. I (Coocase Wizard V36), complete: