GoPro HD camera

Greg_E · October 18th, 2009, 11:30 AM

I just preordered the new GoPro HD motorsports version. I need to start uploading all the stupid driver things I see everyday, and I figure it will only get worse on my bike.

One of my biggest pet peaves is when I'm cruising down the highway at a little above the speed limit when a state trooper comes blasting past like I was going in reverse to catch a speeder (or just because it is donut time), and there are no flashing lights to worn me that he is coming at a rapid rate. Pretty sure they do this so that they can drive at 120+ and not have anyone see that they are doing it until the lights flip on, pretty sure that's when the camera with speed readout starts recording.

kkim · October 18th, 2009, 11:36 AM

I was looking at that camera online just the other night. I thought they were out already? Seems like a great camera for the price.

Greg_E · October 18th, 2009, 12:15 PM

Last thing I saw is that they are supposed to arrive the end of October, which is pretty close now. Revzilla had a decent price with a 4GB memory card and free shipping.

Greg_E · October 18th, 2009, 01:26 PM

I should add that I also now have $10 in Revzilla bonus something or other that will credit when my order ships.

kkim · October 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM

I was looking at the camera on GoPro's website. I was under the impression they were available now.

Greg_E · October 18th, 2009, 02:46 PM

Would be nice if it really is, then I'll get in next week. All of the retail sites say shipping end of October though. Either way I'll get it eventually.

Greg_E · October 20th, 2009, 01:50 PM

I just spent some time looking at the sample videos at http://www.goprocamera.com/hdheropreview/, specifically the Porsche and the other car racing video. I'm very impressed. I see a few things that could be a combination of compression, high electrical shutter speed, or image stabilization, but over all I am impressed. This comes from someone who has worked in the Broadcast level of TV production for the last 20 years on cameras that cost as much as $125,000 each and done some work with in car racing rigs with "throwaway" $2000.00+ cameras and RF equipment. I hope mine works as well as the ones that they used in the clips, I'm sure they picked the best of what they had for the website, but if the hardware works as it should, then I should be able to achieve the same results (or better). Too bad the snow is coming so fast that I may not have much use for it on my bike.

kkim · October 20th, 2009, 02:17 PM

I've read reviews where the playback on large screen HD TVs weren't all that impressive, but for computer internet use, the vid quality is amazing.

Just throwing this out there... are there any other $300 HD camcorders currently available that I should be looking at?

Greg_E · October 20th, 2009, 04:28 PM

I don't think so, some people say the Flip but I'm not sure.

Greg_E · October 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM

Here's something that should be better:
http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HXRMC1/ACC/

I'd be happier if it had 3 CCDs with the exmor clearvid sensor system, but I bet it still performs pretty well.

Ryosen11 · October 20th, 2009, 06:21 PM

I was looking at this ContourHD
http://vholdr.com/contourhd/helmetcam

I haven't done much comparison with GoPro yet because once I know which one I like there wouldn't be anything else to stop me from spending $300

(which I should be spending on a Corbin seat first because my butt hurts real bad when I ride all day)

Greg_E · October 20th, 2009, 06:30 PM

Your butt will get used to it, get a camera.

Kim you must have found this review:
http://www.actioncamerasblog.com/gop...t-hero-review/ because it is the only one I've found about lacking quality on a TV, and that review is the older less than standard definition camera. The few people that have seen the HD GoPro at some shows on the large screens there have said it is impressive. If I can't put it on my bike for a ride, I'll have to put it on the outside of my car for some testing.

kkim · October 20th, 2009, 06:33 PM

Greg,

Thanks for the correction. Yes, that is the review I read. I did a search for "Go Pro HD" and that one popped up. I need to get a better pair of glasses.

Greg_E · October 20th, 2009, 07:28 PM

Well, keep in mind that I work in this field, so when I get mine and give it my tests, my review will be based not just on the fact that it is only $300, but will be based on what they claim. They claim real 1080P resolution, and I intend to try and see if it really resolves that much, or if it is just upconverting the video. As I said, the video they have up is pretty impressive, wish I had access to the raw files, not happy with what the flash player could be doing to it.

The Contour HD seems to have the same features but a better form factor and is about the same price. Either one is probably decent except the GoPro has a water "proof" housing that is only $40 to replace when you get a stone chip in the lens area. I think they may also have the lens protector separately for less, I'll know more when it arrives.

Viper-Byte · October 27th, 2009, 10:55 PM

I too am looking at getting one of these, they seem like great like cameras looking at the footage on the website. Let us know how you get on Greg!

Greg_E · October 28th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Since Sunday is the first, I hope it ships on Friday.

HKr1 · October 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Superbike Supply is doing a group buy on these hd gp's. As seen on florida sportbikers, good thru end of oct

CALL US AT 828-287-2101

Greg_E · October 28th, 2009, 12:26 PM

What's the price of the group buy? I've seen them for $270 with either 4GB or 8GB card and free shipping with the pre-order from Revzilla and Helmetcam-something-or-other.

This for the motorsports package with all the vehicle specific clamps.

HKr1 · October 28th, 2009, 01:05 PM

4gb or 8gb, thats what...... 7 or 15 bucks. You need the 32gb card

You only get whats in the gp box:
http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php...2&productid=30

Greg_E · October 28th, 2009, 01:29 PM

Depends on the card. If they are Sandisk Extreme III than an 8GB is worth at least $30. The free card really did mean nothing since I have some cards I can use. ANd in the box is almost all the vehicle mounts. I did forget the option and extra roll bar mounts (2 of them) but I think that's about it for vehicle mounts. There is a strap system for on the helmet, chest straps, and a few other oddities that you can get for them too.

Since you are doing a group buy and I assume that buy is directly from GoPro, do you have a more firm shipping date that you can share?

HKr1 · October 28th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg_E

Since you are doing a group buy and I assume that buy is directly from GoPro, do you have a more firm shipping date that you can share?

Not "me", I was just C/P'ing

"They" said first week of NOV.

Fixed: > CALL "THEM" AT 828-287-2101

Speedster · October 28th, 2009, 05:23 PM

I want this camera! Looking forward for your review of this camera, Greg_E.

mike_sema · October 28th, 2009, 07:26 PM

I also am looking in on the gopro so what do you think greg e

Greg_E · October 29th, 2009, 06:55 AM

Revzilla just jacked the price up to $299 and no more free SD card, so it must be getting close to shipping.

Greg_E · November 2nd, 2009, 03:11 PM

Now delayed until the third week in November! Why is it that these small companies can never hit their release time tables?. Guess I can pretty much hang up the thought of getting it on the bike before April or May

. Heck might be April of May before they really ship them

RaceBikeRentals · November 5th, 2009, 07:14 PM

Superbike Supply had a killer price on the group buy, but its expired now. Sucks I won't have it for my next race.

kkim · November 5th, 2009, 07:16 PM

any chance of you selling them in your store?

RaceBikeRentals · November 5th, 2009, 07:19 PM

The next owner might, Kelly. He's got lots of connections so I wouldn't be surprised.

kkim · November 5th, 2009, 07:22 PM

cool... forgot that you're getting out of the business.

does that mean more poke' runs to Kauai?

RaceBikeRentals · November 5th, 2009, 07:31 PM

Lili was just saying we need to get back over there! I think we'll shoot for a 5 day-er in Jan or Feb. You on island then?

kkim · November 5th, 2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

Lili was just saying we need to get back over there! I think we'll shoot for a 5 day-er in Jan or Feb. You on island then?

yes, I'll be here!

RaceBikeRentals · November 5th, 2009, 08:36 PM

Cool.... she wants to stay at the Hyatt, so I gotta start looking for the deals

kkim · November 5th, 2009, 08:50 PM

have you considered Casa de la Kim?

RaceBikeRentals · November 5th, 2009, 08:53 PM

Hehehe... you know she won't be happy unless she's showing off all her latest fashions and scoping the eye candy at the hotel

OldGuy · November 5th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaceBikeRentals

Hehehe... you know she won't be happy unless she's showing off all her latest fashions and scoping the eye candy at the hotel

You need to take her to Smiths Luau for eye candy for both of you

Then go stay at Casa de la Kim.

Greg_E · November 17th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Go Pro says they have been shipping for a week, hopefully that means mine has been received at the dealer and is on the way to me.

Greg_E · November 21st, 2009, 08:42 PM

YouTube is starting to get a few things up about this camera. My connection at home is kind of sucking so it's hard to deal with these, but here is a review that I found that I'm trying to watch:

Link to original page on YouTube.

Greg_E · November 23rd, 2009, 06:41 PM

It's here, but no SD card so I'm going to have to clean one off before I can try it. Sent them (revzilla) an email to see what's up and expect they'll stick one in the mail tomorrow. Some parts look like decent quality, one of the mount accessories not so much quality. I'll probably have to cut that adapter out of aluminum so that it is decent. The suction cup is indeed impressive. I stuck it to part of the overly expensive and complete functionless after opening packaging and pulled as hard as I thought I dared. If I pulled harder I expect the suction cup to be damaged so I decided it was good enough.

Time to read the directions as it seems a little clumsy to navigate the menus with the 2 buttons on the camera.

bdavison · November 23rd, 2009, 07:26 PM

The GoPro is certainly nice. I have a Kodak Zi8 that I use. I modified it with a suction cup mount, so I just stick it on the tank or on the plastics or wherever.

The only thing I hate is that $&*#&$#@!@$&*#@& H.264 MP4 .mov garbage. What a colossal pain in the butt. If you're just dumping raw video up to youtube its fine...but if you actually want to do editing .mov files suck. Radtools is probably the best mov-to-avi/wmv converter for editing.

Your options for editing if you dont use a macbrick are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier....both of which are priced so high Bill Gates cant afford them. So if you want to edit it without taking out a second mortgage on the house....you gotta convert them.

Greg_E · November 23rd, 2009, 08:06 PM

These MP4 files work fine in WMP, except I'm trying to look at them on an 800Mhz processor. There are a few editors that I'm going to try and load to see if I can do some simple editing on this laptop, I'll write about them after I try them... I have Avid Media Composer and FinalCut Pro at work on relatively fast computers, so I will have a method to slice things down.

And the disappointment continues.... My camera has the old firmware so things like setting it to flip the image when the camera is upsidedown isn't here. The firmware is not yet posted on their site. Also it requires class 4 cards, all I have are class 2 cards so there is another $30 unless stuff happens to be on sale this week. I'm now fairly unhappy about the lack of included card, and the lack of the correct firmware on their site.

I was going to shoot some video on my way to work, but not sure if I'll bother since I have a feeling that the video will skip because of the slow card.

October 18th, 2009, 11:30 AM	#1
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	GoPro HD camera I just preordered the new GoPro HD motorsports version. I need to start uploading all the stupid driver things I see everyday, and I figure it will only get worse on my bike. One of my biggest pet peaves is when I'm cruising down the highway at a little above the speed limit when a state trooper comes blasting past like I was going in reverse to catch a speeder (or just because it is donut time), and there are no flashing lights to worn me that he is coming at a rapid rate. Pretty sure they do this so that they can drive at 120+ and not have anyone see that they are doing it until the lights flip on, pretty sure that's when the camera with speed readout starts recording.

October 27th, 2009, 10:55 PM	#15
Viper-Byte ninjette.org sage Name: David Location: Wellington, New Zealand Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): 08 Ninja 250R in Green! (Sold) Now 2011 Triumph Daytona 675 SE Posts: 564	I too am looking at getting one of these, they seem like great like cameras looking at the footage on the website. Let us know how you get on Greg! __________________________________________________ 2008 GREEN Kawasaki Ninja 250R. AreaP Quiet Core Carbon Fibre : 8000k HIDs : Dynojet Jet kit : Double Bubble Windscreen

October 28th, 2009, 07:26 PM	#23
mike_sema ninjette.org guru Name: mike Location: tucson az Join Date: Dec 2008 Motorcycle(s): ninja 250r Posts: 371	I also am looking in on the gopro so what do you think greg e __________________________________________________ 08 250R: sportisi VR full exhaust, Dynojet, custom seat, kleen air rmvd, rim tape, grips, fender chop,zg db windscreen,k&n air filter,15t front sprocket,sportisi-usa clipons,solo seat cowl

November 2nd, 2009, 03:11 PM	#25
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Now delayed until the third week in November! Why is it that these small companies can never hit their release time tables?. Guess I can pretty much hang up the thought of getting it on the bike before April or May. Heck might be April of May before they really ship them

November 5th, 2009, 07:14 PM	#26
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Superbike Supply had a killer price on the group buy, but its expired now. Sucks I won't have it for my next race. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

October 18th, 2009, 11:36 AM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I was looking at that camera online just the other night. I thought they were out already? Seems like a great camera for the price.

October 18th, 2009, 12:15 PM	#3
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Last thing I saw is that they are supposed to arrive the end of October, which is pretty close now. Revzilla had a decent price with a 4GB memory card and free shipping.

October 18th, 2009, 01:26 PM	#4
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	I should add that I also now have $10 in Revzilla bonus something or other that will credit when my order ships.

October 18th, 2009, 02:39 PM	#5
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I was looking at the camera on GoPro's website. I was under the impression they were available now.

October 18th, 2009, 02:46 PM	#6
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Would be nice if it really is, then I'll get in next week. All of the retail sites say shipping end of October though. Either way I'll get it eventually.

October 20th, 2009, 01:50 PM	#7
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	I just spent some time looking at the sample videos at http://www.goprocamera.com/hdheropreview/, specifically the Porsche and the other car racing video. I'm very impressed. I see a few things that could be a combination of compression, high electrical shutter speed, or image stabilization, but over all I am impressed. This comes from someone who has worked in the Broadcast level of TV production for the last 20 years on cameras that cost as much as $125,000 each and done some work with in car racing rigs with "throwaway" $2000.00+ cameras and RF equipment. I hope mine works as well as the ones that they used in the clips, I'm sure they picked the best of what they had for the website, but if the hardware works as it should, then I should be able to achieve the same results (or better). Too bad the snow is coming so fast that I may not have much use for it on my bike.

October 20th, 2009, 02:17 PM	#8
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	I've read reviews where the playback on large screen HD TVs weren't all that impressive, but for computer internet use, the vid quality is amazing. Just throwing this out there... are there any other $300 HD camcorders currently available that I should be looking at?

October 20th, 2009, 04:28 PM	#9
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	I don't think so, some people say the Flip but I'm not sure.

October 20th, 2009, 06:18 PM	#10
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Here's something that should be better: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-HXRMC1/ACC/ I'd be happier if it had 3 CCDs with the exmor clearvid sensor system, but I bet it still performs pretty well.

October 20th, 2009, 06:21 PM	#11
Ryosen11 ninjette.org member Name: sho Location: SoCal Join Date: Jun 2009 Motorcycle(s): CBR600RR Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: 144	I was looking at this ContourHD http://vholdr.com/contourhd/helmetcam I haven't done much comparison with GoPro yet because once I know which one I like there wouldn't be anything else to stop me from spending $300 (which I should be spending on a Corbin seat first because my butt hurts real bad when I ride all day)

October 20th, 2009, 06:30 PM	#12
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Your butt will get used to it, get a camera. Kim you must have found this review: http://www.actioncamerasblog.com/gop...t-hero-review/ because it is the only one I've found about lacking quality on a TV, and that review is the older less than standard definition camera. The few people that have seen the HD GoPro at some shows on the large screens there have said it is impressive. If I can't put it on my bike for a ride, I'll have to put it on the outside of my car for some testing.

October 20th, 2009, 06:33 PM	#13
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	Greg, Thanks for the correction. Yes, that is the review I read. I did a search for "Go Pro HD" and that one popped up. I need to get a better pair of glasses.

October 20th, 2009, 07:28 PM	#14
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Well, keep in mind that I work in this field, so when I get mine and give it my tests, my review will be based not just on the fact that it is only $300, but will be based on what they claim. They claim real 1080P resolution, and I intend to try and see if it really resolves that much, or if it is just upconverting the video. As I said, the video they have up is pretty impressive, wish I had access to the raw files, not happy with what the flash player could be doing to it. The Contour HD seems to have the same features but a better form factor and is about the same price. Either one is probably decent except the GoPro has a water "proof" housing that is only $40 to replace when you get a stone chip in the lens area. I think they may also have the lens protector separately for less, I'll know more when it arrives.

October 28th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#16
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Since Sunday is the first, I hope it ships on Friday.

October 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM	#17
HKr1 IC2(SW) Name: Kerry Location: Pensacola Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: A lot.	Superbike Supply is doing a group buy on these hd gp's. As seen on florida sportbikers, good thru end of oct CALL US AT 828-287-2101

October 28th, 2009, 12:26 PM	#18
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	What's the price of the group buy? I've seen them for $270 with either 4GB or 8GB card and free shipping with the pre-order from Revzilla and Helmetcam-something-or-other. This for the motorsports package with all the vehicle specific clamps.

October 28th, 2009, 01:29 PM	#20
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Depends on the card. If they are Sandisk Extreme III than an 8GB is worth at least $30. The free card really did mean nothing since I have some cards I can use. ANd in the box is almost all the vehicle mounts. I did forget the option and extra roll bar mounts (2 of them) but I think that's about it for vehicle mounts. There is a strap system for on the helmet, chest straps, and a few other oddities that you can get for them too. Since you are doing a group buy and I assume that buy is directly from GoPro, do you have a more firm shipping date that you can share?

October 28th, 2009, 05:23 PM	#22
Speedster ninjette.org member Name: Kham Location: elgin, il Join Date: Mar 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Kawasaki Ninj 250r (Blue) Posts: 23	I want this camera! Looking forward for your review of this camera, Greg_E.

October 29th, 2009, 06:55 AM	#24
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Revzilla just jacked the price up to $299 and no more free SD card, so it must be getting close to shipping.

November 5th, 2009, 07:16 PM	#27
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	any chance of you selling them in your store?

November 5th, 2009, 07:19 PM	#28
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	The next owner might, Kelly. He's got lots of connections so I wouldn't be surprised. __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

November 5th, 2009, 07:22 PM	#29
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	cool... forgot that you're getting out of the business. does that mean more poke' runs to Kauai?

November 5th, 2009, 07:31 PM	#30
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Lili was just saying we need to get back over there! I think we'll shoot for a 5 day-er in Jan or Feb. You on island then? __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

November 5th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#32
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Cool.... she wants to stay at the Hyatt, so I gotta start looking for the deals __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

November 5th, 2009, 08:50 PM	#33
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	have you considered Casa de la Kim?

November 5th, 2009, 08:53 PM	#34
RaceBikeRentals Pimpin Name: Richard Location: Ninja 250 Whorehouse Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): Bunch of em Posts: 973	Hehehe... you know she won't be happy unless she's showing off all her latest fashions and scoping the eye candy at the hotel __________________________________________________ -Richard MotoList.com <<<List your stuff!

November 17th, 2009, 06:26 PM	#36
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	Go Pro says they have been shipping for a week, hopefully that means mine has been received at the dealer and is on the way to me.

November 21st, 2009, 08:42 PM	#37
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	YouTube is starting to get a few things up about this camera. My connection at home is kind of sucking so it's hard to deal with these, but here is a review that I found that I'm trying to watch: Link to original page on YouTube. Last futzed with by Alex; November 22nd, 2009 at 07:25 AM. Reason: embedded the video

November 23rd, 2009, 06:41 PM	#38
Greg_E ninjette.org sage Name: Greg Location: central new york Join Date: Aug 2009 Motorcycle(s): 90 Suzuki gsx600f Katana, 03 Buell XB9R Posts: 868	It's here, but no SD card so I'm going to have to clean one off before I can try it. Sent them (revzilla) an email to see what's up and expect they'll stick one in the mail tomorrow. Some parts look like decent quality, one of the mount accessories not so much quality. I'll probably have to cut that adapter out of aluminum so that it is decent. The suction cup is indeed impressive. I stuck it to part of the overly expensive and complete functionless after opening packaging and pulled as hard as I thought I dared. If I pulled harder I expect the suction cup to be damaged so I decided it was good enough. Time to read the directions as it seems a little clumsy to navigate the menus with the 2 buttons on the camera.

November 23rd, 2009, 07:26 PM	#39
bdavison Wartown, USA Name: Bryan Location: Warner Robins, GA Join Date: Nov 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2009 Ninja 250R SE, 2007 Ninja 650R, and assorted other bikes Posts: A lot.	The GoPro is certainly nice. I have a Kodak Zi8 that I use. I modified it with a suction cup mount, so I just stick it on the tank or on the plastics or wherever. The only thing I hate is that $&#&$#@!@$&#@& H.264 MP4 .mov garbage. What a colossal pain in the butt. If you're just dumping raw video up to youtube its fine...but if you actually want to do editing .mov files suck. Radtools is probably the best mov-to-avi/wmv converter for editing. Your options for editing if you dont use a macbrick are Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier....both of which are priced so high Bill Gates cant afford them. So if you want to edit it without taking out a second mortgage on the house....you gotta convert them.