April 10th, 2011, 09:52 PM | #1 |
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Tools: It finally occurred to me why they don't sell sockets with screwdriver tips.
I feel pretty stupid, like I just found out something that's common sense and everyone already knows, but I've never seen it mentioned or demonstrated and I drew the wrong conclusion.
Basically, I've been wanting to replace my bar ends for quite some time due to the paint rubbing off. I even went as far as buying a mini pencil torch and some nice blue bar ends, but I can't afford a 12v impact wrench and I don't even have a decent set of screw drivers. Like my hex sockets that I use on the fairings, I wanted to find a #3 phillips snap-on socket for my $3 ratcheting socket set. I realized after not seeing them anywhere for a few months that they don't seem to exist. Hex socekts, Torx/star sockets, security bit variants, etc, all seem to exist, so why not those? It finally occurred to me: Because you just stick a regular bit into the right-sized socket and use it. Is that right? What sized socket fits it? I was wondering why it seemed that no ratcheting socket kit, no matter how complete, included them. It turns out that they are often included with ratcheting screwdriver kits instead, which I never noticed because they are always on a different aisle. Last futzed with by CZroe; April 11th, 2011 at 12:59 AM. |
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April 10th, 2011, 11:17 PM | #2 |
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I used to sell tools at sears and I've seen these screwdriver bit sockets many times. Heres a set that has # 1-4.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...3&blockType=G3 If you just need the #3 bit they sell those separately for around 7 bucks if I remember correctly. |
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April 10th, 2011, 11:19 PM | #3 |
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The single bits are hanging on the wall with the other standard hex sockets. They are just a little hard to find because of lazy employees like me hanging them up wherever.
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April 11th, 2011, 12:12 AM | #4 |
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i should have gone to that tech day......
if you want you can pm me your address and i'll mail you my phillips bit and socket and just mail it back to me when you're done.......? do you have a 1/4" drive ratchet? im in San Bernardino county btw |
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April 11th, 2011, 12:24 AM | #5 |
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Maybe you should look into a striking impact driver, wont help with the socket issue but it'll take of the bar ends cheaper than in 12v impact. I use them for getting rusty brake drums off.
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April 11th, 2011, 12:29 AM | #6 |
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Jet, we'll probably schedule another Tech Day soon if you can wait or we can schedule a time individually and I can remove them for you. We didn't even use heat for Keven's to remove his today and Dustin didn't use heat to remove his either. Maybe CA men are stronger?
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April 11th, 2011, 05:12 AM | #8 |
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Yeah, I would go with a standard bit in a socket. You can get a multipack of phillips driver bits from just about any hardware store. I'm guessing the bar ends are a #2, possibly #3.
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April 11th, 2011, 05:28 AM | #9 |
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You have a Jap bike use the right bit. JIS is what you need, unless you like buggered up slots.
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April 11th, 2011, 09:18 AM | #10 |
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Yes, I know this, but the bar ends are seeing the trash can after this and my replacements use hex. Also, why isn't the included screwdriver onder the seat JIS? The two phillips driver shafts don't seem to fit a single screw on the bike!
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April 11th, 2011, 12:13 PM | #11 | |
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dont forget about the Replacement warranty, just bring in the broken socket/bit (if it breaks) and get a new one for free if they still do that :-/ |
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April 11th, 2011, 07:38 PM | #12 |
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April 11th, 2011, 08:29 PM | #13 | |
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I always had to argue with my managers about this topic when i'd accept tool warranties for otherwise still functioning tools. But a letter from the VP of the tool division saying we'll accept a tool back for any reason quickly shut them up. |
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April 11th, 2011, 10:01 PM | #14 |
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To answer the original question, I believe standard size driver bits fit a 1/4" socket.
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April 12th, 2011, 09:57 AM | #15 |
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Just checked, the bar end screws and frame screws are philips head #3 not JIS.
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