No NA '13 250R Announcement Yet?

[gt_turbo]

Maybe because we are going to get the '13 Ninja 300R!

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/08/2...c-ninja-zx-6r/

A spreadsheet from the United States Environmental Protection Agency listing 2013 motorcycle certification data includes information about new an all-new Kawasaki Ninja 300 and the Ninja 400R, while also confirming reports the new ZX-6R will return to a 636cc engine displacement.

Appearing on the EPA’s spreadsheet doesn’t necessarily mean these models will be introduced to the U.S. market however. The Kawasaki Ninja 400R was included in a similar document for 2012 but was never introduced. The 2013 document does not include a Ninja 250 (pictured above) which was recently updated for other markets, so it is likely to be replaced by the new Ninja 300.

According to the EPA document, the 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 300 will be powered by a fuel-injected 296cc four-valve twin-cylinder engine. Power is listed at 29 kW (which translates to 39hp) at 11,000 rpm.The documents lists both an ABS and a non-ABS version.

The document doesn’t describe the styling, but it’s likely the Ninja 300 will resemble the recently re-designed 2013 Kawasaki Ninja 250.

The Ninja 400R however may not be likely to hit the market. As mentioned, the 400R was listed in the 2012 documents but to this date has only been available in Japan and Canada. The 400R is more or less a smaller-displacement version of the pre-2012 Ninja 650. The fuel-injected 399cc Twin is listed as producing 43 hp at 9500 rpm. It seems unlikely however Kawasaki will bring both a 300 and a 400 to the U.S. at the same time.

The EPA spreadsheet lists the 2013 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R as having a 636cc four-cylinder engine, confirming previous reports of a return to the larger displacement. The new engine is listed as producing 129 hp at 13,500 rpm. The documents do not include a smaller-displacement version to meet supersport racing homologation rules so a 599cc ZX-6RR may not be coming.

We’ve contacted Kawasaki for a comment. We will update this post when we receive a response.

[Source: EPA]

update:

[Jiggles]

Get your 2fiddys while you can!


Whose gna get the first 3hundo?

[gt_turbo]

this is amurrica! we need moar power!

[ninjamunky85]

Interesting. It would be excited to see a 300 or 400cc ninja. Not sure what to say about no 600cc, I guess the 636 is better for the street anyway.

[Alex]

I'm deadset against it being a 300, only because we then have to go back and find the troll who guaranteed it would be 300 and we'd all need to grudgingly admit he was correct.

[Jiggles]

Pretty sure such a person never existed

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Alex

I'm deadset against it being a 300, only because we then have to go back and find the troll who guaranteed it would be 300 and we'd all need to grudgingly admit he was correct.

There was a reason why he edited his post, and it wasn't because he was trying to be troll.

[choneofakind]

Interesting.

don't get me all excited about the 300 again. I'll sit here and read as things happen.

and a 636 would be cool.


Bah didn't that dude only make one post? I bet it was a random user made by someone here just to be a troll.

[Bentley813]

Guess this will be my first bike if there's no 250.

[EsrTek]

Steve you can buy mine and save 1-2k

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Bentley813

Guess this will be my first bike if there's no 250.

Get a 250, a 300 has too much power for a n00b

[PistolPete93]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Get a 250, a 300 has too much power for a n00b

After I wreck my 250, I think I'm going to get the 300. The 250 doesn't have enough power, so I think the 300 will be awesome

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by PistolPete93

After I wreck my 250, I think I'm going to get the 300. The 250 doesn't have enough power, so I think the 300 will be awesome

For real, thing is a goddamn wheelie machine

[NJ Ninjette]

The new 250 looks cool but is not enough for me to get off my 2012, but a 300 might be enough.

[Panda]

250cc eye four damn it.

[PistolPete93]

Originally Posted by NJ Ninjette

The new 250 looks cool but is not enough for me to get off my 2012, but a 300 might be enough.

I think I'm the only one who doesn't like the look of the 2013. Its too blocky

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by NJ Ninjette

The new 250 looks cool but is not enough for me to get off my 2012, but a 300 might be enough.

Add a full exhaust air intake mod and rejet and you will get the same horsepower gain and spend less money

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Add a full exhaust air intake mod and rejet and you will get the same horsepower gain and spend less money

Now imagine that, but without all the extra noise of a full intake/exhaust!!! That's what the 300 would do.

Now imagine that as the starting point, and adding a (as quiet as possible) full exhaust, snorkel delete, and good fuel map.

both sound nice to me. My bike is kinda loud at times, mostly my intake roar.

[menikmati]

mo' HP, want.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Now imagine that, but without all the extra noise of a full intake/exhaust!!! That's what the 300 would do.

Now imagine that as the starting point, and adding a (as quiet as possible) full exhaust, snorkel delete, and good fuel map.

both sound nice to me. My bike is kinda loud at times, mostly my intake roar.

I'm not saying having 300ccs would be bad, just that there is a cheaper way to get to that same power than selling a 2012 ninjette to get a 2013 ninjette. And if you get a correctly sized exhaust its no where near too loud.

Speaking of my area p race exhaust should be arriving this week. What's that k&n air filter everyone slaps into these bikes?

I may do a full DIY video, like all the way from lets get nekkid

[menikmati]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

I'm not saying having 300ccs would be bad, just that there is a cheaper way to get to that same power than selling a 2012 ninjette to get a 2013 ninjette. And if you get a correctly sized exhaust its no where near too loud.

Speaking of my area p race exhaust should be arriving this week. What's that k&n air filter everyone slaps into these bikes?

I may do a full DIY video, like all the way from lets get nekkid

I use the K&N R-0990.

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...px?Prod=R-0990

My exhaust is scheduled to come in tomorrow, I went with the 18" can.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

if you get a correctly sized exhaust its no where near too loud.

Speaking of my area p race exhaust should be arriving this week. What's that k&n air filter everyone slaps into these bikes?

it's a K&N R-0990.

I'll let you get back to me with how loud you think the bike is with a full intake vs a slightly opened air box I was shocked when I did the pod filters on mine.

Also, the full race exhaust is a little louder than the QC, even with the 18" can.

My Muzzy is an 18" can and it's really not that loud; louder than a QC can, but nothing compared to my Two Brothers cans. That damn intake howls though. WAAAY louder with a full intake.

[soundsfasterthanitis]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Add a full exhaust air intake mod and rejet and you will get the same horsepower gain and spend less money

You can get 39hp out of a rejet and exhaust? man guess I did mine wrong

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by soundsfasterthanitis

You can get 39hp out of a rejet and exhaust? man guess I did mine wrong

A 300cc engine is not going to do 39hp stock. In fact I doubt it would even get to 39hp without some major mods. If Kawi implements a ninja 300 I'll peg its stock hp at 31 on a dyno

And yes 31 is quite attainable from a 250

[EsrTek]

Originally Posted by soundsfasterthanitis

You can get 39hp out of a rejet and exhaust? man guess I did mine wrong

No you can't get 39HP... maybe jump it up to about 35HP, but most likely a re-jet and exhaust will get you from 25hp to about 30-32hp.

Someone posted a article about the ninjette's bottom end w charts, but the bottom line was 39+HP will blow the bottom end of engine out (in a nutshell)

[thurt88]

this info is great news however at this point, everything is speculation.

Is there a set date for when Kawasaki has to annouce its NA releases ? It's gotta be getting close.

[choneofakind]

Idk, but I'll be doing a demo day next season on whatever ninjette variation they release here

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Jiggles

A 300cc engine is not going to do 39hp stock. In fact I doubt it would even get to 39hp without some major mods. If Kawi implements a ninja 300 I'll peg its stock hp at 31 on a dyno

And yes 31 is quite attainable from a 250

Kawi always reports those numbers as crank numbers. The current bike is 31 hp stock as listed in the service manual (24-25 rear wheel). One rated at 39 hp at the crank, would be 30 - 31 rear wheel.

[Trailerboy531]

Originally Posted by Alex

I'm deadset against it being a 300, only because we then have to go back and find the troll who guaranteed it would be 300 and we'd all need to grudgingly admit he was correct.

This is exactly what i was thinking when I read the OP. I say we all ignore him and pretend it never happened either way!

[1994juggernaut]

I think it would be a great starter bike for people who have had a ton of dirt bike experience. Both 250's are low on power for people coming off of a 450 motocrosser so a 300 would be a cool way for them to get used to the street, not get bored, and not overshoot to a 600.

[1994juggernaut]

Also the existence of a brand new 300 would probably lower the price of the 2012 250's. Not used sale or MSRP but you could have more leeway during negotiations with dealers.

[Trailerboy531]

What I wonder, is, if the 250 was ditched out here for the 300 then what race class would a 300cc ninja compete in?

[soundsfasterthanitis]

Originally Posted by Alex

Kawi always reports those numbers as crank numbers. The current bike is 31 hp stock as listed in the service manual (24-25 rear wheel). One rated at 39 hp at the crank, would be 30 - 31 rear wheel.

Oh that explains it. Hanging my head in shame.

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

What I wonder, is, if the 250 was ditched out here for the 300 then what race class would a 300cc ninja compete in?

3hundos are just gna play with themselves in the corner

[triptronix]

check the link below:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/08/2...c-ninja-zx-6r/

300 to replace the 250 in NA markets and a new/reintroduction of the 400cc?? Also mentions the zx6r will go back to 636

[Jiggles]

Originally Posted by gt_turbo

Maybe because we are going to get the '13 Ninja 300R!

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/08/2...c-ninja-zx-6r/

Originally Posted by triptronix

check the link below:

http://blog.motorcycle.com/2012/08/2...c-ninja-zx-6r/

300 to replace the 250 in NA markets and a new/reintroduction of the 400cc?? Also mentions the zx6r will go back to 636

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by Trailerboy531

What I wonder, is, if the 250 was ditched out here for the 300 then what race class would a 300cc ninja compete in?

better question: how long can you convince the race orgs that it's actually a 250 and race your 300 in the 250 class?

[ddrmanxbxfr]

Originally Posted by Alex

Kawi always reports those numbers as crank numbers. The current bike is 31 hp stock as listed in the service manual (24-25 rear wheel). One rated at 39 hp at the crank, would be 30 - 31 rear wheel.

Got to work on your break in methods boys !

250r 2011 Everything stock except Yoshimura Slip on.

Dyno'd at the wheel.

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by ddrmanxbxfr

Got to work on your break in methods boys !

impressive numbers sir. Get a full system on that bad boy and jet it stat.

What did you do for your break-in period? There's loads of threads on this, but I'm interested now that you brought it up

[Jono]

I want a 300 or 400cc ninja in the 2013 ninja 250 body style!!! Please be true, please be true.