May 31st, 2019, 05:44 AM | #1 |
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16 tooth front sprocket -- Anyone with personal experience?
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has used or tried to use a 16 tooth front sprocket. Please reply with any helpful experience you might have. I'm particularly concerned about chain length and how much aluminum I need to grind away from the inside of the front sprocket cover.
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May 31st, 2019, 03:19 PM | #2 |
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Hi, I have 16th sprocket on both my pregen and newgen street bikes. Had to leave sprocket-cover off on pregen as it's too tight of a fit for chain to clear. I may grind clearance channel on inside of sprocket-cover and see if it'll go back on.
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June 1st, 2019, 01:05 AM | #3 |
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Thank you. Did you use it with a 45 tooth rear sprocket and a new 106 link chain? If not, do you believe to would fit?
I did some calculations and work on the sprocket cover clearance but won't know until it arrives and I install it. Geometric calculations indicate the 16 tooth sprocket needs 5.015 mm more radial space than the 14 tooth sprocket. I measured a 5mm thickness of pages from a magazine headed for recycling. After cutting a strip of these pages about 2cm wide, I was able to place it around the chain on the 14 tooth front sprocket and then_barely_ fit the front sprocket cover on over it. I used the splatter marks of the grime flung from the chain to the sprocket cover to mark, score, the relevant areas on the sprocket cover. Using a Dremel I removed 1-2mm of aluminum from the inside of the cover. Then I used some play do to 'see' under the cover. I pressed the play do on the inside cover, pressed the cover into place over the sprocket and chain to create a mould I could measure. Moving around, I couldn't find any place with less than 6-7 mm of clearance. I removed another 1mm of aluminum where there wasn't at least 7 mm of clearance around the chain and 14 tooth sprocket, so hopefully at least 2mm clearance around the chain and 16 tooth sprocket. When the 16 tooth sprocket arrives I'll try to mount the modified sprocket cover over it and listen carefully for any new noises as I ride. I'll also look for any marks suggesting any contact been the chain and sprockets cover the next few times I clean and lube the chain. I'm most concerned about grinding debris between the chain and sprockets cover, so I'll be looking for and signs of that. Last futzed with by Theorist; June 1st, 2019 at 10:54 AM. |
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June 2nd, 2019, 09:59 AM | #4 |
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Yes, stock 45t in rear. I just slide rear wheel forward 5mm using adjusters on swingarm.
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July 5th, 2019, 09:32 AM | #5 |
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In case anyone else wants to try using a 16 tooth front sprocket and the front sprocket cover, here's my experience.
I first ran them together after grinding away some aluminum from the inside of the sprocket cover to give the chain more clearance on the larger sprocket. I then removed the cover and found that the chain had rubbed against and eaten into the sprocket cover at the front and especially at the bottom, between 7mm and 21mm from the edge facing the transmission. I ground more aluminum away, so that a straight edge over these areas left a 2mm gap. After riding another 300 miles, the chain is no longer contacting or marring the sprocket cover. I'll inspect the inside of the sprocket cover again when I adjust or replace the chain. |
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July 5th, 2019, 11:22 AM | #6 |
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Thank you for that. Have you found any evidence of contact on anything other than the cover?
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July 31st, 2019, 08:53 PM | #7 |
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Nothing else rubs except for inside of sprocket cover. I found easier solution to 16t on pre-gen is to just use sprocket-cover from ‘08-12 new-gen bikes. No grinding needed whereas I couldn’t even put on pre-gen cover due to too much interference.
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