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Old December 4th, 2012, 11:49 AM   #1
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Installing Thermo-bob on NewGen 250

I know we have a thread about this going on a PreGen and Bill at http://www.watt-man.com/ says he's done several 2008+ 250s as well as a 300. So I've researched on the net as well as asked Bill via email a few more questions and he's been quick to respond and helpful. Ill try and make a DIY thread out of this when I get it installed a d a review as well.

Here's the two emails I exchanged with bill so far

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I've got a 2009 ninja 250 or second generation as some call it. I have an after market instrument cluster and it with a digital temp gauge. If it's cooler then 80degs then it just sets at 140f unless I not moving. Right now in the winter it seem to fluctuate back a forth between 130 & 140. I read in a old forum post that you helped a guy design a thermo-bob for a 2007 and older first generation 250 to solve this problem. I'm not sure if my system is the same as the first gen 250 or even the KLR but I would like I little help solving my cool running problem. my bike always runs great and never needs a choke but I'm worried about running the bike at such a cool temp is causing extra wear on the motor because the clearance tolerances are loss with the metals and alloys not up to temp.

Thanks for any help you can offer

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Hey Jason,

Yes, we have built a number of kits now for the newer 250... Even the 300 for 2013 has a very similar cooling system layout. I can build you a kit as soon as I get home on thursday (I'm out of town till then). You can order a ninja kit online and mention in the notes section that you have a 2009 bike, and i'll send the right kit when I return.

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You say order a ninja kit online but there's no ninja kit listed so do you want me to select one of the pre-made units and list what bike I have on the notes or select the universal kit and list my bike in the notes?

I ask because of the price difference between the two, also will I be getting the 180 or 195deg model.

I ride my bike year round and it can get quite hot in the tight canyons in the summer as well as when I take it to the race track when it's 120degs.

Thanks

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Good point. Order a normal klr650 kit for $125 and include a note that its for a 2009 ninja. To help you with the thermostat choice I'll build it with one stat and include a stat of the other temp for free.
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Old December 4th, 2012, 11:52 AM   #2
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You may have to look at a configuration different than the pre-gen. The spacing on the new-gen could be a problem. I looked at it already. Fitment on the the new gen would require the radiator fill neck to be moved and remounted about a 1" or more away from it's current location. Some type of flex hose would need to be used.
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You may have to look at a configuration different than the pre-gen. The spacing on the new-gen could be a problem. I looked at it already. Fitment on the the new gen would require the radiator fill neck to be moved and remounted about a 1" or more away from it's current location. Some type of flex hose would need to be used.
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Yes I'm aware of this but compared to some of the other stuff I've done to my bikes this should be easy. Thanks for the heads up anyways
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I think there are a few people who have installed the thermobobs. This DIY link includes a video partway down.
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Old December 4th, 2012, 01:37 PM   #6
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I think there are a few people who have installed the thermobobs. This DIY link includes a video partway down.
Yes that was the thread I was talking about but I missed the video on it the first time so thanks for pointing that out
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Your current temp sensor is reading Radiator temp?
I wouldnt want to run a 195deg thermostat...... First thing I always replace.
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Your current temp sensor is reading Radiator temp?
I wouldnt want to run a 195deg thermostat...... First thing I always replace.
My current temp sensor is reading the coolant coming out of the motor.
Not sure what you mean by first thing you always replace?
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So Bill has been a real pleasure to work with so far answering all my questions and giving some good advise. It only took him like 4 hours to send me an email conformation that my parts had shipped and even included a detailed DIY of the install with the same video link that Alex posted earlier. You'll notice in the picture there's an extra thermostat spring, he sent the BOB installed with the 195stat and included free of charge a 180stat for evaluation in our system. Ill be installing this tomorrow and with the help of a friend I hope to make a DIY video for those of us with 2008-2012 ninja 250s.

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