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Old August 17th, 2016, 02:36 PM   #1
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Wanna ride NCBike in Garysburg, NC for $125 on 9/10, 9/11?

I am a coach for Team Pro-Motion and just wanted to give everyone a heads up on a great deal! If you have never ridden with Team Pro-Motion (or track at all) you can get on NCBike for $125 9/10 and/or 9/11.


I copied and pasted this from the TPM coach's forum:

For any coaches that would like to bring a friend who hasn't ridden with TPM before to an event they will be coaching, we have the following special for the upcoming events:

Summit Point $100
NJMP $150 (plus $5 all access fee)
NCBike $125 per day

Gear is an additional $25

Again, all riders must be new riders to TPM

If they are interested, they can email me directly (barb@teampromotion.com) and I will get them set up



If you have any questions, please ask here or feel free to PM me.

And yes, there will be a group of 250/300's at each of these events. I will have an r6, a SV650 and 300 at NCBike both days. If you want to attend but have no way to get your bike to the track, let me know. I, or someone else may be able to help you out.

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Old August 17th, 2016, 02:44 PM   #2
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What are the njmp/ncbike dates. I have a friend that I've been trying to get to the track and this would help with that
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For comparison, here are normal track day costs:

August 22nd, 2016
MONDAY
Summit Point Raceway
Summit Pt Main
Fees based on membership level:
Outside Pass $210.00
Inside Pass $190.00
Full Throttle $165.00

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August 29th, 2016
MONDAY
New Jersey Motorsport Park
Thunderbolt
Dealer: Mt Holly Kawasaki
Fees based on membership level:
Outside Pass $220.00
Inside Pass $190.00
Full Throttle $165.00

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September 10th or 11th, 2016
SATURDAY
NCBIKE
NCBike
Dealer: Cycle Word
Fees based on membership level:
Outside Pass $225.00
Inside Pass $195.00
Full Throttle $170.00
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What are the njmp/ncbike dates. I have a friend that I've been trying to get to the track and this would help with that
I posted them just under your post, Ben. Are you making it to NCBike 10th and 11th?
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I will see if I can make ncbike, might have to give you some gas money if nobody around here has room on their trailer
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I will see if I can make ncbike, might have to give you some gas money if nobody around here has room on their trailer
No worries, I take an 18x8.5 trailer and can take up to 7 bikes if needed. I'm only bringing 2 myself.
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I posted them just under your post, Ben. Are you making it to NCBike 10th and 11th?
I'll be at summit and ncbike. The njmp date unfortunately falls on my first day of classes so I won't be around for that one

I'm going to see if my friend can make ncbike since it's a great first track to ride


Edit: it's a great feeling being able to look at all those numbers and not have to look at my bank account to figure out if I can go. I hope I can swing titanium again next year
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No worries, I take an 18x8.5 trailer and can take up to 7 bikes if needed. I'm only bringing 2 myself.
Just gota wire the bike, get some tires, an get a belly pan
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I'll be at summit and ncbike. The njmp date unfortunately falls on my first day of classes so I won't be around for that one

I'm going to see if my friend can make ncbike since it's a great first track to ride


Edit: it's a great feeling being able to look at all those numbers and not have to look at my bank account to figure out if I can go. I hope I can swing titanium again next year
You know TPM is offering something like 20% off for 2017 memberships, including Titanium memberships right now, right?
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Just gota wire the bike, get some tires, an get a belly pan
Actually, you don't need a belly pan or to wire up the bike. If you want to, that's cool. But we will not stop you from riding for those. Swapping water for the coolant is a really good idea though, and simple to do.

I'm sure tires will be available at NCBike if you have not gotten any prior to the event.
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Actually, you don't need a belly pan or to wire up the bike. If you want to, that's cool. But we will not stop you from riding for those. Swapping water for the coolant is a really good idea though, and simple to do.

I'm sure tires will be available at NCBike if you have not gotten any prior to the event.
I'd rather wire it... Swapping coolant won't be a problem, no belly pan
What else do I need? Food, sleeping bag, tent, redbull
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I'd rather wire it... Swapping coolant won't be a problem, no belly pan
What else do I need? Food, sleeping bag, tent, redbull

My quicky td list:

Cooler of ice
drinks (water/beer, etc)
Breakfast and lunch (dinners are usually at a restaurant with friends or a bbq at the track)
Snacks/fruit
Extra gas can
Chair(s)
Pop up tent for shade (I lost 2 last year to high winds and pit with friends now or use my trailer)
Sleeping accommodations: air mattress, tent, etc...
bike stands (if ya got 'em)
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I have a large tool box in the trailer which should have most any tool you'd need, so don't sweat tools.
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You know TPM is offering something like 20% off for 2017 memberships, including Titanium memberships right now, right?
Yeah, I heard about that. I've got tuition and other bills coming up in the next few weeks though
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BUMP!


If you've never been on a track before, Team Pro-Motion has a great class called Advanced Rider Training Level 1 (ART 1) which you will attend. It answers the questions you have and teaches the the basics of track riding. You have a classroom session, then you enter the track with a group of beginners and learn visual skills and the "race line" to begin with. There is a classroom session between each riding session. It is a controlled environment and each session adds to the experience. After Lunch, classes end and you are free to put what you have learned to use. You are always welcome to pull up to the coaches and ask for help. That's what we are there to do

Aside from a $500/day school like California Superbike School, this is the best way to get on track and learn as opposed to some other org's who give first timers a 30 minute brief and let you go on track. I took this class in 2006 for my first track day and I am honored to be able to assist it today and help others improve while having a great time and making friends.

If you are interested, please hit me up and get signed up soon. If you wait, it may get filled up!
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I am going! See you there. This will be my first time with TPM. Who can give me a tow?
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at NCBIKE on a 300?

I'll do the honors, give me a session to warm up though
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I'll do the honors, give me a session to warm up though
Yep on my 300. I usually ride with MX but I have been wanting to ride with TPM for a while. Just didnt bite the bullet on two org membership fees. I am super excited.
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Yep on my 300. I usually ride with MX but I have been wanting to ride with TPM for a while. Just didnt bite the bullet on two org membership fees. I am super excited.
Cool! We should have a good group of 300's to ride with.
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Mods, I tried to edit the title to update to the upcoming date but it seems to only have change the title within the thread? Is there any way to edit it to keep it looking like an old, irrelevant thread?
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I might be in for only one day since I need to work, not sure which day that would be
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If you plan on going and want the $125 entry fee (rather than $200+) you need to do it asap. I don't think you can get this price as a walk in. Just a heads up! PM me and you can drop my name in the email (provided in first post) to get this rate.

NCBike is a fun track!


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Rode with TPM for the first time at NCBike on 9/10 and had a blast riding with some of the 300 guys. Definitely doing more TPM days next year and planning on joining in on the 300 racing fun.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my most consistent session of the day. Any tips/advice would be appreciated!

Skip to 2:40 mark and also, look out at around the 9 min mark, @Mike K and @Dsheumaker make some smooth passes on me.

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Rode with TPM for the first time at NCBike on 9/10 and had a blast riding with some of the 300 guys. Definitely doing more TPM days next year and planning on joining in on the 300 racing fun.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my most consistent session of the day. Any tips/advice would be appreciated!

Skip to 2:40 mark and also, look out at around the 9 min mark, @Mike K and @Dsheumaker make some smooth passes on me.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Awesome video!! I see a few easy line adjustments that will drop some time for sure!
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Damn Shu! You were flying.

Jose-- Same as what David said. Look where you want to be. Look through the turn. It works.

You going on 10/22-23?
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Rode with TPM for the first time at NCBike on 9/10 and had a blast riding with some of the 300 guys. Definitely doing more TPM days next year and planning on joining in on the 300 racing fun.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some feedback on my most consistent session of the day. Any tips/advice would be appreciated!

Skip to 2:40 mark and also, look out at around the 9 min mark, @Mike K and @Dsheumaker make some smooth passes on me.

Link to original page on YouTube.

Good video by the way!
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Thanks for the feedback. I worked with Matt for a few sessions, he is a very talented coach and rider. If anyone has a chance to work with him, I highly recommend it.

After reviewing my videos I can definitely see my weakest turns are 2 and 6. I think I over brake on 2 and miss the line on 6.
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Thanks for the feedback. I worked with Matt for a few sessions, he is a very talented coach and rider. If anyone has a chance to work with him, I highly recommend it.

After reviewing my videos I can definitely see my weakest turns are 2 and 6. I think I over brake on 2 and miss the line on 6.
Jose, Nice video and pretty good riding man. Some fine tuning and you will be really moving. It's good to see you identified 2 of the 3 things that stuck out immediately to me.

First of all, let me ask you 2 things: what brake pads are you running and what tires are you running?

As for the things I see for easy improvement (the lap at 12 minute mark was good because you were free from traffic) starting at the braking zone, you are rolling off at the 500 (first) braking marker and coasting in a long way. In gradual increases in going deeper before letting off, you can go down to the 200 still on the gas and just downshift once for T1 (add light brakes for comfort if needed) and get back on it when you know your line will hit the apex. As comfort builds, you won't need brakes, just a downshift.

The short straight into T2, full throttle and get on the brakes later and harder. Again, this is a progression pushing your comfort levels a little bit at a time. This is why reference points are very important. Unless you are setting up to pass someone, stay on your marks.

I noticed something else starting at T2. You stayed in the same gear all the way until T8! This tells me you need to at least double downshift into T2. T2 is also a good trail braking corner, allowing you to brake later.

You are on a small bore bike that makes it's best power up in the rpm's. The rotational mass of the wheels, the faster they are turning, the harder the bike is to turn. The rotational mass of the engine offsets the rotational mass of the wheels. So by keeping your rpm's high, not only are you getting better power to the ground and better throttle response, you are able to change the direction of the bike easier too. That good thing T2-T3, T3-T4 and T4-T5.

On a 250, I downshift twice for T2, upshift 1 entering T3, upshift once entering T4. U[on exit of T5, get the bike vertical and full throttle into the inside of T6 and drop 1 gear while on the brakes turning the bike to hold a tight line into T6. T6 apex is usually 12 feet (or so) too late , so i fade out "early" there on the gas and upshift before turn in T7.

Turn in for T7 is important. It lets you get on the gas sooner when you have a knee over the grass at apex and stay on WFO all the way past the apex of T10. I upshift before T9 too.

Adding these tips will definitely bring your times down. Nothing major to correct.

Hope that helps you Jose

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Nate, really appreciate the detailed feedback. Gotta rewatch the video tonight and look at your notes.

To answer your question I am using EBC HH sintered pads and Dunlop Alpha 13s, but it seems like we dont need brakes at this track! (except for T2 and T11).

Cant wait to ride with TPM again, hoping for NC in Oct. I am definitely getting a membership for next season. Great coaches and members.
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Yeah, not much hard braking at NCBike. Those brake pads and tires are perfect.

I took art basic as my first track day in 2006 with TPM and loved it. I rode with 6+ other orgs over time, (and had a great time with most all of them) but choose to coach for TPM because they made me feel like family.

Hope to see you at the next one in October Jose!
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