Target Fixation

sheH4TEme2 · August 21st, 2012, 02:49 PM

me

Link to original page on YouTube.

zedzedR · August 21st, 2012, 02:55 PM

Are you alright?

csmith12 · August 21st, 2012, 02:58 PM

Holly crap! You good? That spikey branch/root/trunk looking tree didn't look good that close.

RiderOnTheStorm · August 21st, 2012, 03:02 PM

Such a terrible SR! I hope you're doing alright!

sheH4TEme2 · August 21st, 2012, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedzedR

Are you alright?

Road rash on elbow and swollen a bit. Swollen shin and a cut. And my confidence is crushed but other than that, I'm just fine!

EsrTek · August 21st, 2012, 03:10 PM

Happens to all of us at one point...hope you and the bike recover quickly.

alex.s · August 21st, 2012, 03:13 PM

almost had it too

RiderOnTheStorm · August 21st, 2012, 03:17 PM

Have you taken a MSF?

Your video reminds me of my first (and hopefully last) opportunity to test my leathers. I thought I was going wide and focused on that rather than going through the turn. This was prior to my MSF class. I had to think to react. Had I had my MSF, I would have turned more (I think) instead of mentally locking up and laying it down.

It looks like you went in a bit fast, but I'm confident more lean and throttle would have gotten you through. But that's easily said when I'm not in the situation!

Glad to hear you're ok though and not seriously injured. And I'd rather lay it down early in my career and grow from it.

Nemesis · August 21st, 2012, 03:21 PM

Do you need a hug?

zedzedR · August 21st, 2012, 03:24 PM

I hope for a speedy recovery! Were you able to ride the bike home or did it need a tow?

Lychee · August 21st, 2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheH4TEme2

Road rash on elbow and swollen a bit. Swollen shin and a cut. And my confidence is crushed but other than that, I'm just fine!

Glad you are fine. Might I suggest proper gear next time? Keep at it. Remember- unless you hear hard parts dragging or feel tires wiggling, you can lean more.

sheH4TEme2 · August 21st, 2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiderOnTheStorm

Have you taken a MSF?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

Do you need a hug?

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedzedR

I hope for a speedy recovery! Were you able to ride the bike home or did it need a tow?

Yes, I was able to ride the bike home. My frame sliders took most of it. No damage to fairings. Just my left turn signal came off. I just put it back on.

I went back to my crash site to get my confidence back, lol.

Link to original page on YouTube.

csmith12 · August 21st, 2012, 03:54 PM

Glad your good!

csmith12 · August 21st, 2012, 03:56 PM

Wait.... was that Steven Hawking doing the voice for the second vid? And did you see the SUV have an SR in that very same spot? hahahahahha

cuong-nutz · August 21st, 2012, 03:58 PM

Glad you're okay! It looked like it could've been worse! The revisit video doesn't count. Jeep in the way and you were traveling slower

toua70 · August 21st, 2012, 04:09 PM

target fixation is a no-no. I decided to try it for the first time couple months ago while riding GMR and almost ate it. I was curious about how so many people say target fixation was the cause of their crash. Luckily, I didn't crash but came VERY VERY close to hitting the curb around the twisties. Hope you're okay and recover soon.

austexjg · August 21st, 2012, 04:19 PM

Glad your okay - happy to hear the damage to the bike and rider were minimal - no damage to fairings is rare even with sliders.

Target fixation/Survial Reactions are the harest things to over come. I have tried riding with my eyes closed, but the result was no better.

cuong-nutz · August 21st, 2012, 04:20 PM

The rash on my bike is a constant reminder not to target fixate.

Link to original page on YouTube.

sheH4TEme2 · August 21st, 2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuong-nutz

The rash on my bike is a constant reminder not to target fixate.

Dang yo, did you have frame sliders?!

cuong-nutz · August 21st, 2012, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheH4TEme2

Dang yo, did you have frame sliders?!

Nope. I never really cared for them. The rashed fairings make my bike unique and stand out.

edxmon · August 22nd, 2012, 09:52 AM

You know, there is no limits on the amount of times you can retake the MSF course right?

RedOctober · August 22nd, 2012, 10:24 AM

Strangely enough target fixation has never been a problem for me. I certainly have had plenty of opportunities to do it but somehow just kept on thinking "let the bike do the work, keep looking that way, not at the gravel". I credit this to having watched TotWII about 5 times before even buying my first bike.
First (and so far only) crash has actually been due to deathgrip (on my D675, I would have been fine on 250).
At the last track day I've found, to my complete surprise, when I was off the line and trying to tighten up the turn, that instead of thinking "omg I'm gonna run off!" I had a quick "Ok, so if I tighten up too much and lowside here...meh, it's bound to happen eventually" thought.

edxmon · August 22nd, 2012, 10:36 AM

Look, Press, BELIEVE.

And everything will be alright.

Aggrotech · August 22nd, 2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheH4TEme2

I went back to my crash site to get my confidence back, lol.

I did the exact same thing when i crashed, although all i did was take a split second to see wtf the animal was doing, got stuck in a crack in the road during a turn and woop down i went. Went back the next day and did that **** properly.

koenigcitizen · August 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM

Wow, glad you are ok!
It could have been worse...

August 21st, 2012, 02:49 PM	#1
sheH4TEme2 ninjette.org member Name: Diefullah Location: youtube.com/sheh4teme2 Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250R Posts: 18	Target Fixation me Link to original page on YouTube.

August 21st, 2012, 02:58 PM	#3
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Holly crap! You good? That spikey branch/root/trunk looking tree didn't look good that close. __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 21st, 2012, 03:13 PM	#7
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	almost had it too __________________________________________________

August 21st, 2012, 03:21 PM	#9
Nemesis CVMA #74 WSMC #750 Name: Nemesis Location: On the track Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): All of them Posts: A lot.	Do you need a hug? __________________________________________________

August 21st, 2012, 03:54 PM	#13
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Glad your good! __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 21st, 2012, 02:55 PM	#2
zedzedR ninjette.org member Name: Ibrahim Location: GTA, Ontario Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): '01 ZZR 250 Posts: 38	Are you alright?

August 21st, 2012, 03:02 PM	#4
RiderOnTheStorm ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: El Paso, TX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Blue 08 250 - Blue Magic Posts: 162	Such a terrible SR! I hope you're doing alright!

August 21st, 2012, 03:10 PM	#6
EsrTek ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Eric Location: Murfreesboro, TN Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): '13 300 Posts: A lot.	Happens to all of us at one point...hope you and the bike recover quickly.

August 21st, 2012, 03:17 PM	#8
RiderOnTheStorm ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: El Paso, TX Join Date: Jan 2012 Motorcycle(s): Blue 08 250 - Blue Magic Posts: 162	Have you taken a MSF? Your video reminds me of my first (and hopefully last) opportunity to test my leathers. I thought I was going wide and focused on that rather than going through the turn. This was prior to my MSF class. I had to think to react. Had I had my MSF, I would have turned more (I think) instead of mentally locking up and laying it down. It looks like you went in a bit fast, but I'm confident more lean and throttle would have gotten you through. But that's easily said when I'm not in the situation! Glad to hear you're ok though and not seriously injured. And I'd rather lay it down early in my career and grow from it.

August 21st, 2012, 03:24 PM	#10
zedzedR ninjette.org member Name: Ibrahim Location: GTA, Ontario Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): '01 ZZR 250 Posts: 38	I hope for a speedy recovery! Were you able to ride the bike home or did it need a tow?

August 21st, 2012, 03:56 PM	#14
csmith12 The Corner Whisperer Name: Chris (aka Reactor) Location: Northern KY Join Date: May 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2010 250 (track), 1992 250, 2006 R6 (street/track), 2008 R6 (track) Posts: Too much. MOTY 2015, MOTM - Nov '12, Nov '13	Wait.... was that Steven Hawking doing the voice for the second vid? And did you see the SUV have an SR in that very same spot? hahahahahha __________________________________________________ Goal: Shake A Million Hands \| Look through the corners \| Track Day Prep \| Closest track? \| The Mid-Ohio School

August 21st, 2012, 03:58 PM	#15
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	Glad you're okay! It looked like it could've been worse! The revisit video doesn't count. Jeep in the way and you were traveling slower __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

August 21st, 2012, 04:09 PM	#16
toua70 ninjette.org guru Name: Toua Location: Long Beach Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 and Gsx-R 750 k8 (out of commission) Posts: 482	target fixation is a no-no. I decided to try it for the first time couple months ago while riding GMR and almost ate it. I was curious about how so many people say target fixation was the cause of their crash. Luckily, I didn't crash but came VERY VERY close to hitting the curb around the twisties. Hope you're okay and recover soon. __________________________________________________ Omoplariangle-bar

August 21st, 2012, 04:19 PM	#17
austexjg ninjette.org sage Name: J.G. Location: Austin Join Date: Oct 2009 Motorcycle(s): '09 zx6r Green/Black, (ex-)Diablo Black '09 Ninja 250r Posts: 959	Glad your okay - happy to hear the damage to the bike and rider were minimal - no damage to fairings is rare even with sliders. Target fixation/Survial Reactions are the harest things to over come. I have tried riding with my eyes closed, but the result was no better. __________________________________________________ Anyone can go fast in a straight line.... Once you go track, you never go back....

August 21st, 2012, 04:20 PM	#18
cuong-nutz RIP Alex Name: Cuong Location: Houston, TX Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): '10 250r, '09 265r Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 2	The rash on my bike is a constant reminder not to target fixate. Link to original page on YouTube. __________________________________________________ HalfFast Racing Team Serving Greater Houston Area Riders:WFO Riders MotoHouston HPC CMRA Ride Smart Fastline Lone Star Track Days

August 22nd, 2012, 09:52 AM	#21
edxmon ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: San Diego Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R (SOLD - 2/16/2013) Posts: 492	You know, there is no limits on the amount of times you can retake the MSF course right? __________________________________________________ Mods/Add-on list: DanMoto Jisu, Snorkel delete, Shimmed needles, K&N Drop-In filter, T-Rex frame sliders, Shogun swing-arm spools, CBR250 Rear Hugger, Buell XB Pegs. DIY polished rim lips

August 22nd, 2012, 10:24 AM	#22
RedOctober ninjette.org member Name: Andrei Location: Austin, TX Join Date: Aug 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Ninja 250, 2008 Daytona 675 Posts: 212	Strangely enough target fixation has never been a problem for me. I certainly have had plenty of opportunities to do it but somehow just kept on thinking "let the bike do the work, keep looking that way, not at the gravel". I credit this to having watched TotWII about 5 times before even buying my first bike. First (and so far only) crash has actually been due to deathgrip (on my D675, I would have been fine on 250). At the last track day I've found, to my complete surprise, when I was off the line and trying to tighten up the turn, that instead of thinking "omg I'm gonna run off!" I had a quick "Ok, so if I tighten up too much and lowside here...meh, it's bound to happen eventually" thought.

August 22nd, 2012, 10:36 AM	#23
edxmon ninjette.org guru Name: Ed Location: San Diego Join Date: Mar 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250R (SOLD - 2/16/2013) Posts: 492	Look, Press, BELIEVE. And everything will be alright. __________________________________________________ Mods/Add-on list: DanMoto Jisu, Snorkel delete, Shimmed needles, K&N Drop-In filter, T-Rex frame sliders, Shogun swing-arm spools, CBR250 Rear Hugger, Buell XB Pegs. DIY polished rim lips

August 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM	#25
koenigcitizen Russian Ninja :) Name: Andrei Location: Ocean City, MD Join Date: Oct 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Triumph Street Triple R, 2009 Yamaha FZ6, 2010 Kawi 250r (sold) Posts: 335	Wow, glad you are ok! It could have been worse... __________________________________________________ 2009 Fazer (2009 Yamaha FZ6), 2012 Triumph Street Triple R

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