August 22nd, 2011, 07:39 PM | #1 |
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Newbie ?'s
Alright, just got my bike today. I have to admit, it's the first time I've really ever even drove a bike besides a bicycle.
Took me a bit to get to where I wasn't crazily giving throttle and just letting go of the clutch to get going, but I finally got it down. Although I do have some questions that I hope can be answered. I've actually tried searching but have found no clear answers:
Thanks for any help! If you could answer in the format I used, that'd be great! Obviously, I'm new. I'm 16 and a 4.7 GPA student, but not with a Kawasaki Ninja. I'll ask a lot, search a lot, and try to learn as much as I can. That's just how I am. |
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August 22nd, 2011, 07:48 PM | #2 |
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Reece -
Split them into separate threads within individual questions/discussions, and you'll get more useful feedback. This isn't a tech thread if it has 7 unrelated questions whose only similarity is that one person is asking 'em. Oh - before even that, don't use *any* tire cleaner on a motorcycle. Ever.
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August 22nd, 2011, 07:58 PM | #3 | |
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I don't have time to make the threads, I will tomorrow. Could you answer in short why to not use tire cleaner? Slicken the tires? I'm guessing I can clean the rims and wax the bike, but it'd be best to just soap/water the tires to clean them up. I had some to black them out like cars.. *Feel stupid |
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August 22nd, 2011, 08:01 PM | #4 |
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Soap and water is on the rims is OK, but it's not a good idea to apply much of anything to the tires. Never put on any tire conditioner or cleaner (armor-all, tire shine, etc.). New riders do that exactly once, and realize why they shouldn't have after their bike goes sliding down the road at the first significant bend in the road.
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August 22nd, 2011, 08:03 PM | #5 | |
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So, could I use some rim cleaner I have if I make sure it doesn't get on the tires? |
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August 22nd, 2011, 08:09 PM | #6 |
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Yup.
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I'm just gonna make a quick brief response to help you search for better answers.
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August 22nd, 2011, 08:20 PM | #8 | |
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majority of your questions are answered in the forum. my answers/ opinions in red
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August 22nd, 2011, 08:23 PM | #9 |
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this is the only thing youll need to clean your bike.. rims, body, anything.. stuff is awesome! cycle gear carries it for sure.. http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...Cleaner-Polish
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August 23rd, 2011, 12:13 AM | #10 |
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what does ATGATT mean?
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August 23rd, 2011, 01:17 AM | #11 |
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August 23rd, 2011, 03:53 AM | #12 |
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Actually, a lot of these questions are related to each other. For example, from a standstill in neutral, attempting a clutchless shift at a high enough rpm to get you going without stalling out will answer your question about how to wheelie. Also, since your bike has a rev limiter, if you just wring it full throttle to 14k with the shifter preloaded, it will shift automatically againt without the clutch or throttle blips. It has an spark kill in the ignition, exactly the same way racebikes have quickshiters, so it works great (except downshifts where it WILL destroy an engine in less than one revolution)...but please, please, please don't do anything I've mentioned here. Learn to ride, learn to use your clutch, and then in a few months we'll tell you about life-threatening techniques like pneumatic shifters, wheelies, and waxing tires.
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:03 AM | #13 | |
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:24 AM | #14 |
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Just an FYI, premium gas being cleaner is just a marketing ploy. EPA already requires that all levels of gas have cleaning agents in them and anythig extra they put in premium won't have any significant effect and may actually hurt mpg.
Also, premium gas won't make it easier to start in the spring. Ethanol is what causes all the trouble in our carbs and premium gas definitely has it. A good storage process is the your best bet. While premium gas won't hurt any, it's completely unneccessary unless your engine is knocking/pinging for some reason. Regular gas does have the advantage for cold starts since the ignition point will be lower. http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...tos/aut12.shtm The government recommending spending less money |
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:38 AM | #15 |
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Not trying to start a debate here, but I've always run Shell premium in my bike and have never had any of the carb gumming issues that several others have talked about. Also, I usually get around 60 mpg and I don't baby it. My plugs were nice and clean when I changed them last year, and it runs good all the time. Maybe it is a waste (like I said in my original post that most would say that), but I'm happy with the results I have gotten from it and have no intention of switching. I guess I like spending the extra $.80 per tank. Not a big deal when you're talking 4 gallons to fill up. Now my Suburban with the 42 gallon tank? That's a different story!
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:43 AM | #16 |
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Reference thread here on Octane / premium fuel:
Octane, Money and You??? What do you run in your 250 and why?
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:45 AM | #17 |
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It definitely doesn't hurt the wallet too much since it's a small tank, but you're crediting premium gas for something that it may not necessarily deserve. If you look at the mpg poll, that's also what most people average. My bike sat from May 4th to last week without any storage prep, so I thought my jets would be gummed and they actually were clean.
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August 23rd, 2011, 07:00 AM | #18 |
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Doesn't running high grade gas lower horsepower on our bikes? lol
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August 23rd, 2011, 07:00 AM | #19 |
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Like I said, not trying to start a debate...
My reference to mpg was merely stating that I'm not getting worse mileage than those who use 87. Run what you want, I was not suggesting that it has to have 92. I was only saying that it is what I use. Quite frankly, this thread should be about educating a new 16 year old rider on the proper gear and technique. Not on how to debate about what kind of fuel one person prefers over another. Lets get back on topic here....
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August 23rd, 2011, 07:02 AM | #20 |
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I like to run my tires at 3psi over recommended pressue, and I've also never had any problems with my carbs gumming up, and I the spark plugs look good as new. I can't prove it's related, but I have no intention of changing it. Of course, this isn't costing me hundreds of dollars a year like running premium gas would. I'm not trying to change your mind or anything--run whatever you like. I'm mearly pointing that starting a post with "I'm not trying to start a debate, but here's a list of debateable reasons I think it's good to ignore the manufacturer's recommendations" isn't the best way to avoid a debate.
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August 23rd, 2011, 07:32 AM | #22 | |
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August 23rd, 2011, 09:42 AM | #23 |
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in first, ride forward at 2.5krpm, pull the clutch in and hit the throttle up to 10krpm, drop clutch and hold on.
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August 23rd, 2011, 09:58 AM | #24 |
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Was that the answer to how to touch-up the paint, or which grade of gas to use?
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August 23rd, 2011, 12:04 PM | #25 |
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Slightly off topic, but I thought 4.0 was the highest gpa? Maybe I haven't been in school in awhile...
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August 23rd, 2011, 12:17 PM | #27 |
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Really? Times have changed then, it didn't work like that when I was in high school. Good to know
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August 23rd, 2011, 12:22 PM | #28 | |
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August 23rd, 2011, 12:58 PM | #30 |
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I'm surprised no one's asked if he's taken his MSF course. Some of his questions could be answered during that class easily.
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August 23rd, 2011, 06:04 PM | #31 |
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Maybe we didn't ask, because were able to conclude, from his questions, that he hadn't taken it?
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August 24th, 2011, 08:56 AM | #33 |
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On my phone now. Thanks everyone that has posted!
I just have a lot of work and barely have time besides the weekends to get on. Anyway, waxed the bike last night and it looks great, pictures coming soon. Will fully reply soon, hopefully today if I get time. No, I have not taken a safety course and I'm new to bikes. Drive yesterday though and I believe I'm getting that clutch down! Also worked on leaning around turns. Just messed me up that you don't turn the handlebars when you turn. Lol. |
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August 24th, 2011, 09:02 AM | #34 |
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Do yourself and everyone around you a favor and go take an MSF class asap.
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August 24th, 2011, 09:25 AM | #35 |
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Definitely take the course because, yes, you do turn the handle bars when you turn. You turn them the opposite direction but you're probably just doing it instinctively.
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August 24th, 2011, 10:30 AM | #36 |
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+a million. Go take that MSF course. Honestly, I'd recommend that you don't ride until you take it.
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