2014 Formula 1 - Official Thread

camaroz1985 · January 27th, 2014, 10:10 AM

Here is a quick look at notable technical/rules changes for 2014
- New engine formula, 1.6L Turbocharged V6 with 8 speed transmissions
- KERS upgraded to allow 161 additional hp for 33 seconds per lap
- Lower nose heights mandated to increase safety and the hideous "stepped" nose seen last year is prohibited
-Fuel flow restrictions put in place to promote fuel economy. Drivers also need to return to pits under their own power.
- Exhaust outlet has changed to upward facing toward the rear wing to make blown diffusers much harder to achieve.
- Minimum weight increased to 1523 lbs.
- Midseason testing again returns. Will be held at 4 circuits following the corresponding grand prix. Teams are required to devote one of these test to helping Pirelli with tire development.
- Penalty points are utilized. Any driver that accumulates 12 penalty points will be banned from the next race.
- Engine limit reduced from 8 to 5 per driver for the year.
- Drivers will pick car numbers to be used throughout their career. Numbers available are 2-99, with 1 being reserved for the previous year's champion (similar to MotoGP number system).
- Final race of the year is worth double points.

Now for the team lineups and schedules (These are still not completely set in stone and will be updated as they are announced.)

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Teams and Drivers
Caterham F1 Team
Drivers : 9 Marcus Ericsson (SWE)
          10 Kamui Kobayashi (JPN)
Constructor : Caterham-Renault
Chassis : TBA
Engine: Renault Energy F1-2014

Infinity Red Bull Racing
Drivers : 1 Sebastian Vettel (GER)
          3 Daniel Ricciardo (AUS)
Constructor : Red Bull-Renault
Chassis : RB10
Engine: Renault Energy F1-2014

Lotus F1 Team
Drivers : 8 Romain Grosjean (FRA)
            13 Pastor Maldonado (VEN)
Constructor : Lotus-Renault
Chassis : E22
Engine : Renault Energy F1-2014

Marussia F1 Team
Drivers : 4 Max Chilton (GBR)
           17 Jules Bianchi (FRA)
Constructor : Marussia-Ferarri
Chassis : MR03
Engine : Ferarri 059/3

McLaren Mercedes
Drivers : 20 Kevin Magnussen (DEN)
            22 Jenson Button (GBR)
Constructor : McLaren-Mercedes
Chassis : MP4-29
Engine : Mercedes PU106A Hybrid

Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team
Drivers : 6 Nico Rosberg (GER)
          44 Lewis Hamilton (GBR)
Constructor : Mercedes
Chassis : F1 W05
Engine : Mercedes PU106A Hybrid

Sahara Force India F1 Team
Drivers : 11 Sergio Perez (MEX)
          27 Nico Hulkenberg (GER) 
Constructor : Force India-Mercedes 
Chassis : VJM07
Engine : Mercedes PU106A Hybrid

Sauber F1 Team
Drivers : 21 Esteban Gutiérrez (MEX)
          99 Adrian Sutil (GER) 
Constructor : Sauber-Ferrari
Chassis : C33
Enigne : Ferrari 059/3

Scuderia Ferrari
Drivers : 7 Kimi Raikkonen (FIN)
          14 Fernando Alonso (ESP)
Constructor : Ferrari
Chassis : F14 T
Engine : Ferrari Type 056

Scuderia Toro Rosso
Drivers :25 Jean-Eric Vergne (FRA)
           26 Daniil Kvyat (RUS)
Constructor : Toro Rosso-Renault
Chassis : STR9
Engine : Renault Energy F1-2014

Williams F1 Team
Drivers : 19 Felipe Massa (BRA)
          7 Valtteri Bottas (FIN)
Constructor : Williams-Mercedes
Chassis : FW36
Engine : Mercedes PU106A Hybrid

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2014 Test Calendar
Jan 28-31 -- Jerez
Feb 19-22 -- Bahrain
Feb 27-Mar 2 -- Bahrain


2014 Race Calendar
Round 01 – Australian GP – Mar 14-16
Round 02 – Malaysian GP – Mar 28-30
Round 03 - Bahrain GP - Apr 4-6
Round 04 – Chinese GP – Apr 18-20
Round 05 – Spanish GP – May 9-11
Round 06 – Monaco GP – May 22-25
Round 07 – Canadian GP – June 6-8
Round 08 - Austrian GP - June 20-22
Round 09 – British GP – July 4-6
Round 10 – German GP – July 18-20
Round 11 – Hungarian GP – July 25-27
Round 12 – Belgian GP – Aug 22-24
Round 13 – Italian GP – Sep 5-7
Round 14 – Singapore GP – Sep 19-21
Round 15 – Japanese GP – Oct 3-5
Round 16 – Russian GP – Oct 10-12
Round 17 - United States GP - Oct 31-Nov 2
Round 18 – Brazilian GP - Nov 7-9
Round 19 - Abu Dhabi GP – Nov 21-23

camaroz1985 · January 27th, 2014, 10:12 AM

Force India - 22 January (online)
Williams - 23 January (online)
Lotus - 24 January (online, DELAYED)
McLaren - 24 January (online)
Ferrari - 25 January (online)
Sauber - 26 January (online)
Toro Rosso - 27 January (Jerez)
Mercedes - 28 January (Jerez)
Caterham - 28 January (Jerez)
Red Bull - 28 January (Jerez)
Marussia - 28 January (Jerez)

adouglas · January 27th, 2014, 12:45 PM

Incredibly, both McLaren and Ferrari have come out with cars whose noses are even uglier than they were last year. Right proper anteater snouts.

Renault... er, I mean Lotus.... showed a block diagram of their power train, which is very cool. They appear to have eliminated turbo lag... the KERS battery spins up the turbocharger in the corner so it's already boosting when the driver punches it.

adouglas · January 27th, 2014, 12:54 PM

STR unveiled their car this morning. Another hideous nose.

It looks like either the snout of a tapir or a semi-erect p*nis.

You decide.

http://www.formula1.com/gallery/launches/2014/832.html

CC Cowboy · January 27th, 2014, 01:50 PM

Ferrari looks like an ant eater nose.

Alex · January 27th, 2014, 09:05 PM

Those noses are all ugly!

camaroz1985 · January 28th, 2014, 11:00 AM

Winner by a nose has an all new meaning.

More galleries added, most with hideous noses. I think Mercedes and Red Bull have the least offensive. Red Bull hides the appendage by leaving it bare carbon, but there is some interesting detail there in the opening.

camaroz1985 · January 28th, 2014, 11:07 AM

Day 1

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Pos Driver             Team                  Time        Gap     Laps
 1. Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari               1m27.104s            31
 2. Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m27.820s  +0.716s   18
 3. Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m30.082s  +2.978s    7
 4. Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m33.161s  +6.057s   11
 5. Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m36.530s  +9.426s   15
 6. Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m42.257s  +15.153s   7
 7. Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      No time               3
 8. Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault      No time               1

Day 2

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Pos Driver             Team                  Time        Gap     Laps
 1. Jenson Button      McLaren               1m24.165s            43
 2. Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari               1m24.812s   +0.647s  47
 3. Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m25.344s   +1.179s  35
 4. Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m25.588s   +1.423s  97
 5. Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m28.376s   +4.211s  37
 6. Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m33.270s   +9.105s  53
 7. Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault      1m37.975s  +13.810s  11
 8. Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m38.320s  +14.155s   8

Day 3

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Pos Driver             Team                  Time        Gap     Laps
 1. Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes      1m23.276s            52
 2. Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m23.700s   +0.424s  47
 3. Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m23.952s   +0.676s  62
 4. Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m25.030s   +1.754s  40
 5. Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m25.495s   +2.219s  58
 6. Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m26.096s   +2.820s  17
 7. Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m29.915s   +6.639s  30
 8. Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m30.161s   +6.885s  34
 9. Robin Frijns       Caterham-Renault      No time           -  10
10. Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      No time           -   3
11. Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      No time           -   5

Day 4

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Pos Driver              Team                  Time       Gap     Laps
 1. Felipe Massa        Williams-Mercedes     1m28.229s           86
 2. Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m29.145s  +0.916s  115
 3. Daniel Juncadella   Force India-Mercedes  1m29.457s  +1.228s  81
 4. Kevin Magnussen     McLaren-Mercedes      1m30.806s  +2.577s  110
 5. Lewis Hamilton      Mercedes              1m30.822s  +2.593s  41
 6. Jules Bianchi       Marussia-Ferrari      1m32.222s  +3.993s  25
 7. Adrian Sutil        Sauber-Ferrari        1m36.571s  +8.342s  69
 8. Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m36.951s  +8.722s  91
 9. Kamui Kobayashi     Caterham-Renault      1m43.193s  +14.964s 54
10. Daniil Kvyat        Toro Rosso-Renault    1m44.016s  +15.787s  9
11. Daniel Ricciardo    Red Bull-Renault      1m45.374s  +17.145s  7

camaroz1985 · January 31st, 2014, 09:30 AM

First test is over. Bad news for all Renault powered cars, especially for Red Bull. Guess that's what testing is for though.

CC Cowboy · January 31st, 2014, 05:23 PM

The booze is really getting to Kimi. His face and neck are all bloated. Good thing it doesn't affect his driving.

adouglas · February 1st, 2014, 02:57 PM

I'm sorry. There's just no getting away from it.

This car has a d*ck.

CC Cowboy · February 1st, 2014, 03:51 PM

That one is seriously ugly. However; I do like the green. It might even look good on a bike.

cbinker · February 1st, 2014, 04:11 PM

might have to take up another series to watch.

CC Cowboy · February 2nd, 2014, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbinker

might have to take up another series to watch.

The best thing to watch is Supercross.

algs26 · February 2nd, 2014, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

I'm sorry. There's just no getting away from it.

This car has a d*ck.

What is the car going to look like when they inevitably break off the front wing at turn 1?

Ah, yeeeeaaah...

cbinker · February 3rd, 2014, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

The best thing to watch is Supercross.

i used to watch that back when McGrath was dominating, then i got busy with other things.

camaroz1985 · February 3rd, 2014, 07:40 AM

I think the Toro Rosso is the most phallic.

Alex · February 3rd, 2014, 05:22 PM

What is it about the rules this year that now favors cars with these appendages?

CC Cowboy · February 3rd, 2014, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

What is it about the rules this year that now favors cars with these appendages?

They're allowed to rear end each other.

Boom King · February 3rd, 2014, 06:08 PM

Safety reasons. Reduce the risk of a car flying into the air if it rear ends another and reduce the risk of injury to another driver in a T bone crash.

algs26 · February 3rd, 2014, 07:35 PM

Autoblog's explanation and short history lesson:
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/31/w...es-ugly-video/

adouglas · February 4th, 2014, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

What is it about the rules this year that now favors cars with these appendages?

It's not that cars with these things are "favored." Like everything else in F1, it's an engineering solution created to meet a specific rule restriction.

As I understand it:

1) Back in the day, Colin Chapman revolutionized aerodynamics when he created the first ground effects car.

2) Everyone started making them and speeds got scary. Safety suffered.

3) FIA did away with ground effects by mandating flat, stepped floors (not all at once, but that's what we have).

4) This made the diffuser VERY VERY important in producing downforce. It became, and remains, the single most important part of the car from an aero standpoint.

5) The prime aero objective became flow management around the rear of the car.

6) The aero boffins realized that a high nose made it possible to manage the air going under/around the car much more effectively. The higher the nose, the better. The top of the nose doesn't matter all that much.... the underside matters a great deal.

7) Taken to the extreme (a flat upper deck at driver eye height), this high nose approach created a driver safety issue, because in a T-bone the nose could ride up over the top of the cockpit surround of the car being T-boned.

8) FIA mandates lower noses. Aero guys still want as much of the nose to be as high as possible so they keep the monococque high and step the nose. Ugly.

9) In an attempt to force the designers to make more sleek noses, this year the FIA mandated a very low nose tip.

10) A wide, swooping low nose tip blocks airflow, so the less imaginative designers came up with the obvious solution... keep the chassis high to allow as much air underneath as possible, and make a tube that obeys the letter of the rule. That's exactly what you see with Caterham, Force India and Toro Rosso.

Fortunately, most of the other teams have come up with more elegant solutions. RBR's pod is just fine. Mercedes' solution is also not bad at all. Lotus' is just goofy, but then they're always goofy anyway (remember the forward-firing exhaust?) McLaren doesn't look great in all-silver, but I'll bet that once the livery is finalized it'll look great.

Personally, I think it would be easy to fix this whole mess. Everything is driven by the maximum allowable height of the TOP of the monoccocque and the nose. If you turned that around and mandated the height of the BOTTOM of the nose, then the top would naturally follow. There would be no advantage to having a ludicrously high nose anymore.

camaroz1985 · February 17th, 2014, 08:10 AM

Rumor has it Martini will be back in F1 as a sponsor for Williams. Could make for some nice looking liveries.

adouglas · February 17th, 2014, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

Rumor has it Martini will be back in F1 as a sponsor for Williams. Could make for some nice looking liveries.

Indeed. I always loved those flowing lines.

Hey, there's an idea.... rather than planning the livery, just put wet paint all over the front of the car and go for a high-speed run. Let the aero do the design! Like Flo-Viz....

camaroz1985 · February 19th, 2014, 09:03 AM

Day 1

Code:

Pos Driver            Team                  Time       Gap     Laps
 1. Nico Hulkenberg   Force India-Mercedes  1m36.880s           78
 2. Fernando Alonso   Ferrari               1m37.879s  +0.999s  64
 3. Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes              1m37.908s  +1.028s  74
 4. Kevin Magnussen   McLaren-Mercedes      1m38.295s  +1.415s  81
 5. Sebastian Vettel  Red Bull-Renault      1m40.224s  +3.344s  14
 6. Adrian Sutil      Sauber-Ferrari        1m40.443s  +3.563s  82
 7. Robin Frijns      Caterham-Renault      1m42.534s  +5.654s  68
 8. Daniil Kvyat      Toro Rosso-Renault    1m44.346s  +7.466s   5
 9. Romain Grosjean   Lotus-Renault         1m44.832s  +7.952s   8
10. Felipe Massa      Williams-Mercedes     no time              5
11. Jules Bianchi     Marussia-Ferrari      no time              3

Day 2

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Pos Driver                Team                     Time       Gap     Laps
 1. Kevin Magnussen       McLaren-Mercedes         1m34.910s           46
 2. Nico Hulkenberg       Force India-Mercedes     1m36.445s  +1.535s  59
 3. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                  1m36.516s  +1.606s  97
 4. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes                 1m36.965s  +2.055s  85
 5. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes        1m37.328s  +2.418s 116
 6. Kamui Kobayashi       Caterham-Renault         1m39.855s  +4.945s  66
 7. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault         1m40.340s  +5.430s  59
 8. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Renault       1m40.609s  +5.699s  58
 9. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari           1m40.717s  +5.807s  55
10. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault            1m41.670s  +6.760s  18 
11. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari         1m42.511s  +7.601s  17

Day 3

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Pos Driver                Team                     Time       Gap     Laps
 1. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes                 1m34.263s           67
 2. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes         1m34.976s  +0.713s  103
 3. Felipe Massa          Williams-Mercedes        1m37.066s  +2.803s  60
 4. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari           1m37.180s  +2.917s  96
 5. Sergio Perez          Force India-Mercedes     1m37.367s  +3.104s  57
 6. Kimi Raikkonen        Ferrari                  1m37.476s  +3.213s  44
 7. Daniil Kvyat          Toro Rosso-Renault       1m38.974s  +4.711s  57
 8. Pastor Maldonado      Lotus-Renault            1m39.642s  +5.379s  26
 9. Daniel Ricciardo      Red Bull-Renault         1m40.781s  +6.518s  28
10. Marcus Ericsson       Caterham-Renault         1m42.130s  +7.867s  98
11. Max Chilton           Marussia-Ferrari         1m46.672s  +12.409s  4
12. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Mercedes        no time             55

Day 4

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Pos Driver              Team                    Time       Gap     Laps
 1. Nico Rosberg        Mercedes                1m33.283s           89
 2. Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes        1m34.957s  +1.674s  66
 3. Kimi Raikkonen      Ferrari                 1m36.718s  +3.435s  82
 4. Felipe Nasr         Williams-Mercedes       1m37.569s  +4.286s  87
 5. Pastor Maldonado    Lotus-Renault           1m38.707s  +5.424s  59
 6. Sergio Perez        Force India-Mercedes    1m39.258s  +5.975s  19
 7. Daniel Ricciardo    Red Bull-Renault        1m39.837s  +6.554s  15
 8. Jean-Eric Vergne    Toro Rosso-Renault      1m40.472s  +7.189s  19
 9. Kamui Kobayashi     Caterham-Renault        1m43.027s  +9.744s  17
10. Marcus Ericsson     Caterham-Renault        1m45.094s  +11.811s  4
11. Jules Bianchi       Marussia-Ferrari        no time              5
12. Adrian Sutil        Sauber-Ferrari          no time              7

Ninja Star · February 19th, 2014, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC Cowboy

They're allowed to rear end each other.

LOL I'm pretty sure you have a team of writers for your posts. One person can't be responsible for such shenaniganary.

Yes, that's a word.

Don't look it up.

I'll be rootin' for Vettel and Kimi, though I hate Ferrari >=(

Alex · February 21st, 2014, 09:35 PM

Interesting. Wonder if Red Bull is as screwed as these early times suggest.

camaroz1985 · February 24th, 2014, 08:15 AM

I don't think their pace is to be worried about, but the reliability issues are a bit troubling.

camaroz1985 · February 28th, 2014, 11:13 AM

Day 1

Code:

Pos Driver              Team                    Time       Gap      Laps
 1. Sergio Perez        Force India-Mercedes    1m35.290s           105
 2. Valtteri Bottas     Williams-Mercedes       1m36.184s  +0.894s  128
 3. Kimi Raikkonen      Ferrari                 1m36.432s  +1.142s  54
 4. Nico Rosberg        Mercedes                1m36.624s  +1.334s  89
 5. Adrian Sutil        Sauber-Ferrari          1m37.700s  +2.410s  89
 6. Kevin Magnussen     McLaren-Mercedes        1m37.825s  +2.535s  109
 7. Daniel Ricciardo    Red Bull-Renault        1m37.908s  +2.618s  39
 8. Max Chilton         Marussia-Ferrari        1m38.610s  +3.320s  44
 9. Daniil Kvyat        Toro Rosso-Renault      1m39.242s  +3.952s  55
10. Pastor Maldonado    Lotus-Renault           1m40.599s  +5.309s  31
11. Kamui Kobayashi     Caterham-Renault        1m42.285s  +6.995s  19

Day 2

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Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
 1.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m35.570s           33
 2.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m35.634s  +0.064s  45
 3.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m36.901s  +1.331s  20
 4.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari      1m38.198s  +2.628s  33
 5.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m39.041s  +3.471s  61
 6.  Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m39.323s  +3.753s  44
 7.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m39.756s  +4.186s  30
 8.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m40.428s  +4.858s  41
 9.  Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      1m40.867s  +5.297s  15
10.  Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault         1m41.762s  +6.192s  24
11.  Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault      1m42.516s  +6.946s  22

Day 3

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Pos  Driver            Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
 1.  Felipe Massa      Williams-Mercedes     1m33.258s           99
 2.  Nico Rosberg      Mercedes              1m33.484s  +0.226s  103
 3.  Kimi Raikkonen    Ferrari               1m35.426s  +2.168s  87
 4.  Kevin Magnussen   McLaren-Mercedes      1m35.894s  +2.636s  88
 5.  Daniil Kvyat      Toro Rosso-Renault    1m36.113s  +2.855s  81
 6.  Nico Hulkenberg   Force India-Mercedes  1m36.205s  +2.947s  115
 7.  Jules Bianchi     Marussia-Ferrari      1m37.087s  +3.829s  78
 8.  Marcus Ericsson   Caterham-Renault      1m38.083s  +4.825s  117
 9.  Romain Grosjean   Lotus-Renault         1m42.166s  +8.908s  33
10.  Adrian Sutil      Sauber-Ferrari                            1
11.  Sebastian Vettel  Red Bull-Renault                          0

Day 4

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
 1.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m33.278s           70
 2.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m33.987s  +0.709s  108
 3.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m34.280s  +1.002s  74
 4.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m35.577s  +2.299s  74
 5.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m35.701s  +2.423s  74
 6.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m36.467s  +3.189s  91
 7.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      1m36.835s  +3.557s  61
 8.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m37.303s  +4.025s  86
 9.  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m37.468s  +4.190s  77
10.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m38.111s  +4.833s  22
11.  Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault      1m38.391s  +5.113s  106
12.  Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault         1m39.302s  +6.024s  32

adouglas · February 28th, 2014, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex

Interesting. Wonder if Red Bull is as screwed as these early times suggest.

Testing is always misleading. We don't know what's actually going on, how much fuel, what they're trying to accomplish, etc. etc.

On top of that, the new engine packages are still a wild card. We keep hearing how Renault is having problems... but who knows how bad it really is? Might be something very simple. Might not.

For that matter, the first race or three usually don't mean much either... development happens fast. Remember in 2012 (first year of stepped noses/narrow rear wings)?

Mclaren dominated Australia, with two of the three podium spots... On his victory lap Button said "she's beautiful and she's quick." Alonso, by contrast, finished fifth and Massa didn't finish at all.

At the end of the year, Button wound up fifth in the driver's championship and Mclaren wound up third behind RBR and Ferrari.

adouglas · March 3rd, 2014, 10:27 AM

Not satisfied with giving their car a schlong, Toro Rosso have updated the nose to include room for the associated cojones.

CC Cowboy · March 3rd, 2014, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

Not satisfied with giving their car a schlong, Toro Rosso have updated the nose to include room for the associated cojones.

I believe they are trying to get more ladies into the sport.

camaroz1985 · March 12th, 2014, 10:19 AM

Date: 3/16/2014
Circuit: Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne
Circuit Length: 5.303 km (3.295 mi)
Number of Laps: 58
Race Lenght: 307.574 km (191.118 mi)
Lap Record: 1:24.125 - M Schumacher (2004)
2013 Winner: Kimi Raikkonen

Track Map

TV Schedule (All times ET, and shown on NBC Sport Network unless noted in bold below)

Thu, 3/13, 9:30PM - Friday Practice 1
Fri, 3/14, 1:30AM - Friday Practice 2
Sat, 3/15, 2:00AM - Qualifying
Sat, 3/15, 6:00AM - Qualifying (Replay)
Sun, 3/17, 2:00AM - Race
Sun, 3/17, 6:30AM - Race (Replay)

Results

Friday Practice 1

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap       Laps
 1.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m31.840s            20
 2.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m32.357s  +0.517s   23
 3.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m32.403s  +0.563s   27
 4.  Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m32.431s  +0.591s   19
 5.  Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      1m32.599s  +0.759s   26
 6.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m32.604s  +0.764s   17
 7.  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m32.793s  +0.953s   10
 8.  Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes      1m32.847s  +1.007s   28
 9.  Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari               1m32.977s  +1.137s   18
10.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m33.446s  +1.606s   30
11.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m33.533s  +1.693s   23
12.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m33.855s  +2.015s   24
13.  Daniil Kvyat       Toro Rosso-Renault    1m34.272s  +2.432s   27
14.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m35.578s  +3.738s   7
15.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m36.445s  +4.605s   13
16.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari      1m40.859s  +9.019s   6
17.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      1m46.922s  +15.082s  4
18.  Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault                           1
19.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes                                   1
20.  Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault                           1
21.  Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault                              2
22.  Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault

Friday Practice 2

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
 1.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m29.625s           37
 2.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m29.782s  +0.157s  31
 3.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m30.132s  +0.507s  28
 4.  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m30.381s  +0.756s  41
 5.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m30.510s  +0.885s  33
 6.  Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      1m30.538s  +0.913s  38
 7.  Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari               1m30.898s  +1.273s  32
 8.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m30.920s  +1.295s  38
 9.  Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes      1m31.031s  +1.406s  34
10.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m31.054s  +1.429s  33
11.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m31.060s  +1.435s  35
12.  Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m31.119s  +1.494s  31
13.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m31.283s  +1.658s  36
14.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m32.355s  +2.730s  36
15.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m32.468s  +2.843s  26
16.  Daniil Kvyat       Toro Rosso-Renault    1m32.495s  +2.870s  36
17.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari      1m33.486s  +3.861s  29
18.  Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault         1m33.646s  +4.021s  12
19.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      1m34.757s  +5.132s  29
20.  Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault                          1
21.  Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault
22.  Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault

Saturday Practice

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap      Laps
 1.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m29.375s             15
 2.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m30.766s  +1.391s    20
 3.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m30.876s  +1.501s    11
 4.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m30.919s  +1.544s    13
 5.  Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      1m30.970s  +1.595s    13
 6.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m30.978s  +1.603s    16
 7.  Kimi Räikkönen     Ferrari               1m31.156s  +1.781s    12
 8.  Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes      1m31.251s  +1.876s    22
 9.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m31.665s  +2.290s    17
10.  Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m31.723s  +2.348s    20
11.  Daniil Kvyat       Toro Rosso-Renault    1m31.925s  +2.550s    17
12.  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m32.255s  +2.880s    14
13.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m32.417s  +3.042s    16
14.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari      1m34.184s  +4.809s    15
15.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m34.188s  +4.813s    16
16.  Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault      1m34.413s  +5.038s    19
17.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      1m34.717s  +5.342s    15
18.  Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault         1m34.754s  +5.379s    15
19.  Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault      1m36.159s  +6.784s    21
20.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes                            2
21.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari                               2
22.  Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault                                4

Qualifying

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car              Time       Gap
 1.  Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes              1m44.231s
 2.  Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault      1m44.548s  +0.317s
 3.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1m44.595s  +0.364s
 4.  Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes      1m45.745s  +1.514s
 5.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari               1m45.819s  +1.588s
 6.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault    1m45.864s  +1.633s
 7.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes  1m46.030s  +1.799s
 8.  Daniil Kvyat       Toro Rosso-Renault    1m47.360s  +3.129s
 9.  Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes     1m48.079s  +3.848s
10.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes     1m48.147s  +3.916s
                   Q3 cut-off:           1m44.331s       **
11.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes      1m44.437s  +2.173s
12.  Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari               1m44.494s  +2.230s
13.  Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault      1m44.668s  +2.404s
14.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari        1m45.655s  +3.391s
15.  Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault      1m45.867s  +3.603s
16.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes  1m47.293s  +5.029s
                   Q2 cut-off:           1m34.274s       ***
17.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari      1m34.293s  +4.118s
18.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari      1m34.794s  +4.619s
19.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari        1m35.117s  +4.942s
20.  Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault      1m35.157s  +4.982s
21.  Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault         1m36.993s  +6.818s
22.  Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault

                   107 per cent:         1m37.129s

** Gap to 1st in Q2
*** Gap to 1st in Q3

Race

Code:

Pos  Driver             Team/Car                  Time/Gap
 1.  Nico Rosberg       Mercedes              1h32m58.710s
 2.  Kevin Magnussen    McLaren-Mercedes          +26.777s 
 3.  Jenson Button      McLaren-Mercedes          +30.027s 
 4.  Fernando Alonso    Ferrari                   +35.284s 
 5.  Valtteri Bottas    Williams-Mercedes         +47.639s 
 6.  Nico Hulkenberg    Force India-Mercedes      +50.718s 
 7.  Kimi Raikkonen     Ferrari                   +57.675s 
 8.  Jean-Eric Vergne   Toro Rosso-Renault      +1m00.441s 
 9.  Daniil Kvyat       Toro Rosso-Renault      +1m03.585s 
10.  Sergio Perez       Force India-Mercedes    +1m25.916s 
11.  Adrian Sutil       Sauber-Ferrari              +1 lap 
12.  Esteban Gutierrez  Sauber-Ferrari              +1 lap 
13.  Max Chilton        Marussia-Ferrari           +2 laps 
14.  Jules Bianchi      Marussia-Ferrari           +8 laps*  

* Not classified

Retirements:

     Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull-Renault               DSQ
     Romain Grosjean    Lotus-Renault              43 laps
     Pastor Maldonado   Lotus-Renault              29 laps
     Marcus Ericsson    Caterham-Renault           27 laps
     Sebastian Vettel   Red Bull-Renault            3 laps
     Lewis Hamilton     Mercedes                    2 laps
     Kamui Kobayashi    Caterham-Renault            0 laps
     Felipe Massa       Williams-Mercedes           0 laps

Driver's Championship Standings - After 1 of 19 Rounds

Code:

 1.  Nico Rosberg      25
 2.  Kevin Magnussen   18
 3.  Jenson Button     15
 4.  Fernando Alonso   12
 5.  Valtteri Bottas   10
 6.  Nico Hulkenberg   8
 7.  Kimi Raikkonen    6
 8.  Jean-Eric Vergne  4
 9.  Daniil Kvyat      2
10.  Sergio Perez      1

Constructor's Championship Standings - After 1 of 19 Rounds

Code:

 1.  McLaren/Mercedes      33
 2.  Mercedes              25
 3.  Ferrari               18
 4.  Williams/Mercedes     10
 5.  Force India/Mercedes  9 
 6.  Toro Rosso/Renault    6

algs26 · March 14th, 2014, 12:30 AM

I just don't know about these new cars...

adouglas · March 14th, 2014, 06:08 AM

Yeah, they sure do sound strange, don't they? We'll get used to it. These are not the most bizarre cars in the history of F1... far from it.

It was cool seeing Alonso lay down a huge black mark as the torque got away from him. The torque alone (and the driver's ability to manage it) is going to make for some interesting racing.

adouglas · March 14th, 2014, 10:00 AM

Kayso I just finished watching FP1.

What was interesting to me is how different the cars sound in the on-boards.

Sauber is quiet and smooth.

You can REALLY hear the turbo whistle on the McLaren

RBR sounds raw and unrefined.

I'm stoked to see Williams up there, evidently having a much better time of it than the big boys. How cool would it be if Massa became a title contender? Who knows... Sir Frank might actually crack a smile!

stubshaft · March 17th, 2014, 05:14 PM

I was slightly disappointed to see that Vettel didn't have a car that was competitive (let alone driveable). I don't know if it was the sound of the engines or not. But they seemed a lot slower than last year. What a boon for Pirelli now that the cars do not get enough speed up to ruin their tires. IIRC - They ran 28 laps on softs!

adouglas · March 17th, 2014, 08:57 PM

Completely different tire construction this year.

This year it's going to be about fuel, not tires. Last year strategy was ALL about the tires. Now it's going to be all about making it to the end of the race and/or conserving enough in the early and mid portions to open the spigot for a dash at the end.

Some great drives! And it's refreshing to see so many new faces doing well.

Fastest lap was about 3.5 seconds slower than last year. That's not too surprising and it's due more to the aero and tire changes than the engines. We've got a lot less downforce this year and tires are harder, so it's a lot more difficult to get power down.... acceleration is slower because there's so much torque it's easy to break loose. Cornering speeds are lower because of less downforce. The cars are a lot harder to drive overall.

Did you notice the tires screeching on every pit exit? I don't remember hearing that, ever before.

It all adds up to better racing, because driver skill plays a greater role than it did before.

They said during the broadcast that the FIA's objective has changed... for a while they were simply trying to make it a better spectacle. Now they want F1 to become the development ground for new technologies that can filter down to road cars. That's a FANTASTIC idea in my book.

camaroz1985 · March 18th, 2014, 12:03 PM

I agree. The new technology is pretty amazing, and I look forward to more of it. I don't think we can judge how the season will be based on one race, but I am still excited overall.

CC Cowboy · March 23rd, 2014, 04:04 PM

F1 comes back to Long Beach, CA.

January 27th, 2014, 10:12 AM	#2
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Car Launch Dates Force India - 22 January (online) Williams - 23 January (online) Lotus - 24 January (online, DELAYED) McLaren - 24 January (online) Ferrari - 25 January (online) Sauber - 26 January (online) Toro Rosso - 27 January (Jerez) Mercedes - 28 January (Jerez) Caterham - 28 January (Jerez) Red Bull - 28 January (Jerez) Marussia - 28 January (Jerez) Last futzed with by camaroz1985; February 19th, 2014 at 09:04 AM.

January 27th, 2014, 12:45 PM	#3
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Incredibly, both McLaren and Ferrari have come out with cars whose noses are even uglier than they were last year. Right proper anteater snouts. Renault... er, I mean Lotus.... showed a block diagram of their power train, which is very cool. They appear to have eliminated turbo lag... the KERS battery spins up the turbocharger in the corner so it's already boosting when the driver punches it. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

January 27th, 2014, 12:54 PM	#4
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	STR unveiled their car this morning. Another hideous nose. It looks like either the snout of a tapir or a semi-erect pnis. You decide. http://www.formula1.com/gallery/launches/2014/832.html __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.*

January 27th, 2014, 01:50 PM	#5
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	Ferrari looks like an ant eater nose. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

January 27th, 2014, 09:05 PM	#6
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Those noses are all ugly! __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

January 28th, 2014, 11:00 AM	#7
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Winner by a nose has an all new meaning. More galleries added, most with hideous noses. I think Mercedes and Red Bull have the least offensive. Red Bull hides the appendage by leaving it bare carbon, but there is some interesting detail there in the opening.

January 31st, 2014, 09:30 AM	#9
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	First test is over. Bad news for all Renault powered cars, especially for Red Bull. Guess that's what testing is for though.

January 31st, 2014, 05:23 PM	#10
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	The booze is really getting to Kimi. His face and neck are all bloated. Good thing it doesn't affect his driving. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 1st, 2014, 02:57 PM	#11
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	I'm sorry. There's just no getting away from it. This car has a dck. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.*
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February 1st, 2014, 03:51 PM	#12
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	That one is seriously ugly. However; I do like the green. It might even look good on a bike. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

February 1st, 2014, 04:11 PM	#13
cbinker Track Clown Name: Chris Location: Kingman, AZ Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): '08 250R, 21 MV F3 800, Kawasaki 400 build Posts: A lot. MOTM - Sep '15	might have to take up another series to watch. __________________________________________________ TEAM ALFALFA www.apexassassins.com

February 3rd, 2014, 07:40 AM	#17
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I think the Toro Rosso is the most phallic.

February 3rd, 2014, 05:22 PM	#18
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	What is it about the rules this year that now favors cars with these appendages? __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

February 3rd, 2014, 06:08 PM	#20
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February 3rd, 2014, 07:35 PM	#21
algs26 ninjette.org guru Name: al Location: NorCal Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ex300, gave up looking for a 250 Posts: 435	Autoblog's explanation and short history lesson: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/31/w...es-ugly-video/

February 17th, 2014, 08:10 AM	#23
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	Rumor has it Martini will be back in F1 as a sponsor for Williams. Could make for some nice looking liveries.

February 21st, 2014, 09:35 PM	#27
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Interesting. Wonder if Red Bull is as screwed as these early times suggest. __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

February 24th, 2014, 08:15 AM	#28
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I don't think their pace is to be worried about, but the reliability issues are a bit troubling.

March 3rd, 2014, 10:27 AM	#31
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Not satisfied with giving their car a schlong, Toro Rosso have updated the nose to include room for the associated cojones. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

March 14th, 2014, 12:30 AM	#34
algs26 ninjette.org guru Name: al Location: NorCal Join Date: Aug 2012 Motorcycle(s): ex300, gave up looking for a 250 Posts: 435	I just don't know about these new cars...

March 14th, 2014, 06:08 AM	#35
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Yeah, they sure do sound strange, don't they? We'll get used to it. These are not the most bizarre cars in the history of F1... far from it. It was cool seeing Alonso lay down a huge black mark as the torque got away from him. The torque alone (and the driver's ability to manage it) is going to make for some interesting racing. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

March 14th, 2014, 10:00 AM	#36
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Kayso I just finished watching FP1. What was interesting to me is how different the cars sound in the on-boards. Sauber is quiet and smooth. You can REALLY hear the turbo whistle on the McLaren RBR sounds raw and unrefined. I'm stoked to see Williams up there, evidently having a much better time of it than the big boys. How cool would it be if Massa became a title contender? Who knows... Sir Frank might actually crack a smile! __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

March 17th, 2014, 05:14 PM	#37
stubshaft Rode with the Dinosaurs.. Name: Joe Location: middle of the pacific Join Date: Nov 2013 Motorcycle(s): '08 Ninja 250 Posts: 486	I was slightly disappointed to see that Vettel didn't have a car that was competitive (let alone driveable). I don't know if it was the sound of the engines or not. But they seemed a lot slower than last year. What a boon for Pirelli now that the cars do not get enough speed up to ruin their tires. IIRC - They ran 28 laps on softs! __________________________________________________ *Fortune favors the brave!*

March 17th, 2014, 08:57 PM	#38
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Completely different tire construction this year. This year it's going to be about fuel, not tires. Last year strategy was ALL about the tires. Now it's going to be all about making it to the end of the race and/or conserving enough in the early and mid portions to open the spigot for a dash at the end. Some great drives! And it's refreshing to see so many new faces doing well. Fastest lap was about 3.5 seconds slower than last year. That's not too surprising and it's due more to the aero and tire changes than the engines. We've got a lot less downforce this year and tires are harder, so it's a lot more difficult to get power down.... acceleration is slower because there's so much torque it's easy to break loose. Cornering speeds are lower because of less downforce. The cars are a lot harder to drive overall. Did you notice the tires screeching on every pit exit? I don't remember hearing that, ever before. It all adds up to better racing, because driver skill plays a greater role than it did before. They said during the broadcast that the FIA's objective has changed... for a while they were simply trying to make it a better spectacle. Now they want F1 to become the development ground for new technologies that can filter down to road cars. That's a FANTASTIC idea in my book. __________________________________________________ I am NOT an adrenaline junkie, I'm a skill junkie. - csmith12 Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est. Heri historia. Cras mysterium. Hodie donum est. Carpe diem.

March 18th, 2014, 12:03 PM	#39
camaroz1985 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Ryan Location: Carlisle, PA Join Date: Nov 2008 Motorcycle(s): 2008 WR250R, 2006 Ural Raven (Sold), 2009 Versys Green (Sold), 2008 Ninja 250R Green (Sold) Posts: A lot.	I agree. The new technology is pretty amazing, and I look forward to more of it. I don't think we can judge how the season will be based on one race, but I am still excited overall.

March 23rd, 2014, 04:04 PM	#40
CC Cowboy ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Whodat Location: Ware Is.,MA Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): I pass the wind! Posts: A lot. MOTM - Mar '13, Jun '14	F1 comes back to Long Beach, CA. __________________________________________________ If everything seems under control; you're just not going fast enough!

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