May 28th, 2011, 03:38 PM | #161 |
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Um, are you kidding? Seriously, the driver of the truck was way out of line (literally and figuratively). Yeah, the trucker was innocent and driving like a sweet old granny himself, right? He was endangering way more lives than the biker who passed illegally (yes on a double yellow, but one w/ decent sight distance for his acceleration). Under your logic, since the angry truck driver was justified to behave the way he did, let's say he hit an oncoming motorcycle head on as he drove over the double yellow on corner after corner, it's ok because he was justified in behaving that way? Absolutely not. I'd love to know what the cops did.
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May 28th, 2011, 03:58 PM | #162 | |
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Even David Hough mentions in his book, Proficient Motorcycling, that many roads are painted double yellow these days when they shouldn't be. It's easier and cheaper to just paint them all consistently double yellow, so in some areas, that has been done. Yes, if the guy got caught passing, he deserved a ticket as anyone does who passes illegally (or speeds, or doesn't stop with both feet down at a stop sign, etc), but he did NOT deserve to be nearly run off the road and hit with a truck!
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May 28th, 2011, 03:59 PM | #164 |
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Difference between a driver not seeing the pedestrian illegally crossing, and a driver aiming for the pedestrian crossing, than driving all over the sidewalks and down one way streets just to run the jaywalker over.
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May 28th, 2011, 04:15 PM | #165 | |
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Well, if you've ever ridden in a group ride (or even a duo) in the mountains on a long trip, you know the rider in front stops at most intersections to wait on the other rider(s). I'm sure the rider had agreed to stop at the end of the road and wait for the other to figure out which direction to turn.
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May 28th, 2011, 06:26 PM | #167 |
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This video reminds me of a time I was targeted by rednecks in a big 4x4 truck with absolutely NO provocation! I was on a very popular road outside of Clayton, Ga called War Woman. This is a very tricky, technical road with varying tight turns, camber changes, and frequent debris in the corners. I was riding along at a nice spirited mountain pace when a huge jacked up truck appeared behind me and tailed me within inches. I'd lose him a bit in the corners, but he always caught up to me in the short straights. Hubby was way, way up ahead and wouldn't be able to see what was going on. I was on my own, a little chick on a 250 with 2 rednecks in a big a** truck scaring the hell out of me. My options: Ride like a bat out of hell and try to escape or pull over and be a sitting duck out there on my own. I rode it out thinking I had more of a chance with Lil' Ninj than I did on my own against those two! It was the scariest, most tense mountain riding I've ever done, but thank God I made it. Finally after about 10 miles, they turned onto another road.
Ever since then, yes, as a defensive method, I stereotype cars and drivers...soccer moms with the bumper stickers in mini-vans, rednecks in big trucks, and I won't keep listing, though there are many others. ;-)
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May 28th, 2011, 06:56 PM | #168 |
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May 28th, 2011, 08:05 PM | #169 | |
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you're absolutely right about understanding what was really going on in that vid but like i said...what does it show ? Maybe in front of Judge Judy the biker might possibly win the contest but in any court they'd both walk away with fines and while the trucker could be accused of being a crappy driver, the biker intentionally violated a law. If you dont know by now, you may find out....courts dont like us. |
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May 29th, 2011, 12:43 AM | #171 | |
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Plus anyone that can get that idea from that video is not a motorcyclist. No offense, but there is no way a judge and jury would get what you got from it. Just by suggesting it you make yourself look like less of a motorcyclist, just saying. The courts are far more intelligent then rednecks that might try to claim that's what happened. But anyone with 2 brain cells can plainly see that's nowhere near the truth. No trucker (especially a drunk driving redneck) will ever be scared of a single "crotch rocket" rider. I've known too many rednecks, they don't know how to be scared behind the wheel of a pickup truck. |
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May 29th, 2011, 02:42 AM | #172 | |
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May 29th, 2011, 04:08 AM | #173 |
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Assault with a deadly weapon. The biker should press charges and the dude in the truck should do time.
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May 29th, 2011, 05:22 AM | #174 |
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Uh, no. Apparently you haven't been following the whole thread, but the DA charged the redneck with DUI plus a few other things. I think reckless driving, brandishing a weapon and attempted manslaughter were in the mix. The illegal(?) pass was not considered because its only an infraction and not a felony. The redneck is facing 24 years unless he weasels out of it somehow.
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May 29th, 2011, 05:35 AM | #176 |
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If you look at the first pass by the biker there was a clear line of sight down the road for a good 1/4 mile. The truck on the other hand crossed the line completly with both wheels over the double yellow at least five times and crossed the yellow line numerous other times with no line of sight . He was crossing the yellow on blind curves.
If you listen to the audeo the redneck says it was because they where on rice burners .and he said he grew up on that road and could drive anyway he wanted. If the riders where on Harleys he would have let them pass. |
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That sounds horrible! I guess we should all learn to shoot backwards over our shoulders. I knew a guy with a beautiful laser sighted 44 automatic that would probably be perfect for biking. I think I'm going to get one.
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May 29th, 2011, 06:53 AM | #178 |
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OK I guess this thread had made its point. BUT now for the fun stuff.
How about a rocket launcher.instead of a .44 or a GUN that says Desert Eagle five point O http://youtu.be/qcQ5Xm1MZXw |
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But seriously, how about a short length of steel chain with fence staples welded to it. For malevolent tailgaters (as opposed to the idiots that just follow too close) just drop in in their tire tracks. Tie a 6' string to it so you can drop it again if you miss. Alternately, How about one of these. They can be mounted rear facing and have a range of about 4 feet. The flame is invisible and the moron wont even know what's happening until his radiator melts and the engine overheats. If there are plastic body parts in the way, they will be extra crispy. It might turn out to be a good, non-lethal method of controlling tailgaters. |
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I wouldn't have stopped, because that video would be key critical evidence if the driver had succeeded in killing the rider by rear-ending him. I'd feel horrible for the rest of my life if I'd stopped following, then came across my buddy's body, and no video to convict the driver with. Heck, the driver could claim, with no video of the collision, that he'd stopped following the rider and the rider just crashed out and died on his own.
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May 31st, 2011, 07:22 PM | #186 |
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I'd be curious as to what kind of cameras you have. I want some too, front and back, but haven't found any I like yet. I want something permanently mounted (concealed) in the bike and runs off the bikes battery. And also recycles the storage space on the memory card.
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So they were already cleared but this was posted on another forum discussing it:
"From one of the riders: TO ANYONE SAYING THE MOTORCYCLES BROKE THE LAW,YOU CAN PASS ON THE DOUBLE YELLOW IN KY,PA, AND SOME OTHER STATES WITHIN CERTAIN CONDITIONS. The police reviewed the videos and cleared both of wrong doing, the truck was going below the speed limit, driver was charged with attmepted murder.." So looks like I was correct that it wasn't even against the law to pass. Some of those laws are written with poor wording, where it says they would not recommend doing it but it never states you can't do it. If someone in KY can't confirm that it would be nice, I know that is how it goes in Vermont. |
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However, they run over $2,000 for a basic setup and I'm still debating if I want to pull the trigger on one. Until then, I'm still using my ContourHD, and may get a second one for aft recording. Disadvantages of it and the GoPro are the fields of view are so wide that even at HD resolution license plates are unreadable at distances further away than a car length. If you Google "motorcycle mobile dvr" you'll find some other units. |
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I'm gonna have to go with the redneck on this one.
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Got some more info on this....
Rumor has it, this guy was singled out by a larger group of riders a few miles before the 2 riders in the video. The larger group 15+ sport bikes all gave him a hard time as they passed. Talked to the sheriff in Pendleton Co., route 10 cuts through that county to and borders bracken county. He said he had no info on the charges that this guy had on him, but he did know of stepped up police presence on 10 and 22. This increase will be for a while and focus on weekends between 10am and 2pm. That to me seems focused on the bikers in general though. Also, a local cop said he had seen the vid and commented; if you look close, he didn’t attempt to willfully and knowingly harass any other rider (the single white bike in the oncoming lane). As I know this road and look at the video slowing it down right before the white bike passes by, you can clearly see the truck driver moves into his lane…. Still unacceptable, but shows further he must have been chasing down the first rider. The cop also mentioned… why did the truck driver stop in the first place and why did he stay knowing the cops where being called? He must have wanted his voice to be heard. The police that I talked to about this remained unbiased. “I know those bikers speed down that road. They go down every weekend and we gotta go clean up the mess.” “That guy in the truck is going to kill someone driving like that.” He ended with “Blocking like that only belongs on the TV watching Nascar or a race track. It is never acceptable to block in that manner on a public road.” "Getting out of the truck with a weapon is not good and further shows bad intentions." I also went to a little local store on route 10 just 1 mile from my house. The locals (bunch of old farmers) are resorting to throwing gravel and sand down in front of their houses to slow the bikers down (could be just a rumor). Interesting how different they treat me, as I road my ninja to that little store, chatting with them about the speeders (cars included) that fly by all the while dressed in leather, holding my helmet in hand. They don't know me, I don't know them but all it takes is a little respect for others on and off the road. Sad that the excessive speed of a few will ruin it for the others. The only “quality” item left to add to this thread is about education. If it looks fast, sounds fast, it must be going fast. That is the perception that most of the cagers have around here. When I tell them I keep my rpms up for the power coming out of curves, but only going 45mph, it starts to sink in that I am not the threatening speed demon they once seen me to be. “Sure it looks fast, sure it sounds fast, but compared to a car, I am not traveling much faster than you. And don’t tell me you have never went over the speed limit by 5mph”. |
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Very interesting Chris. Thanks for the update.
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Thanks for the update. I definitely want to know what happens to the drunk. Maybe they will make an example out of him. However, I'm trying to figure out how a bunch of guys on motorcycles could possibly harass a guy in a pickup truck as they passed. Perhaps the bikes each made a certain syllable as they passed similar to the Budweiser frogs. Ninja 250: "Yewwwwwwwwwwww" Cruiser: "Duuuuuhhhhhhmmmmmm" CBR 250R: "Reddddddddddddddddd" ZX-14: "Nnnnnnnnehhhhhk" I think realistically that if the redneck had not been drunk he would have been able to control his hatred of sport bikers a little better. As far as why he didn't run, there may have been any number of reasons. 1) He thought the sheriff would side with him; 2) He wanted to stay and fight; 3) He knew he couldn't possibly get away; |
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Don’t know how they harassed the truck driver, but your syllable theory is not only hilarious, but strangly accurate as well.
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Have you never seen The Road Warrior or played Road Rash? Every rider carries chains and clubs. Duh Sport bikes all come equipped with Katanas and Nunchaku. Tourers come with super soakers and nerf guns. And...
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