December 14th, 2013, 04:21 PM | #1 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Race Bike Build
OK since I'm working on building up a little racer too, I'll add to the merriment.
Here is what I've started with. Basically a pretty rashed street bike with about 8500 miles on it. |
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December 14th, 2013, 04:26 PM | #2 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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At home in the shop.
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December 14th, 2013, 04:28 PM | #3 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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And the Teardown begins.
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December 14th, 2013, 04:30 PM | #4 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Forks being prepped for emulators, springs and preload caps.
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December 14th, 2013, 04:32 PM | #5 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
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Quick mockup with bodywork to drill mounting holes.
This was a cheapy set off of ebay. Not bad for the cost. Mounted forks to check for fitment of woodcraft clip-ons. |
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December 14th, 2013, 04:33 PM | #6 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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And as it sits today.
Now to get started on stripping out the wiring harness and putting it all back together. |
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December 14th, 2013, 06:36 PM | #7 |
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So I'm following your progress. I look at each of your posts and noticed the time stamp on each and the amount of work done. Damn, you're fast at this rebuild. At this rate you should be done at about 10:00 tonight.
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December 14th, 2013, 08:32 PM | #8 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Mad skillz!
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December 15th, 2013, 07:32 PM | #9 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Pretty busy in the garage today.
Installed the woodcraft clipon riser spacers. I'll see if I truly need them when the triples arrive. Installed the Moto X rearsets on the frame. Fabbed up an engine stand, and tore down the top end for inspection. The cylinders look crappy, so I need to figure something out for a replacement. Will need to keep things stock for MCRA legality. Installed the woodcraft sharkfin. Also installed the tapered steering bearing races. Overall a productive day. More parts should arrive next week to allow more progress. |
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December 16th, 2013, 12:53 PM | #10 | |
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also, could you hook me up with a picture of your upper frame crossmember. it kinda looked in one of your photos that yours is crooked the OPPOSITE direction that mine is. i was kind of worried about mine being crooked at first, but the more frames i look at the more they all just look crooked. the picture makes mine look a little worse than it really is but you see what i'm getting at. good work man, can't wait to see it all put back together! |
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December 16th, 2013, 12:59 PM | #11 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Sure thing. I'll head out to the garage later and take a shot.
The sharkfin is to protect in a crash in case your hand or foot gets caught in the chain. |
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December 17th, 2013, 09:14 AM | #12 | |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Let me know if this helps.
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December 20th, 2013, 03:37 PM | #13 |
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thanks
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December 20th, 2013, 07:45 PM | #14 |
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Name: Josh
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Looks like fun. If you need an extra set of hands, let me know. Glad that the rules are sorted out for next season, can't wait for the racing to resume...
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December 20th, 2013, 08:02 PM | #15 |
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I love da builds
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December 20th, 2013, 08:23 PM | #16 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Yeah I'll have my hands full after Sunday.
SV motor will be done, and I'll start on the SV/Ducati hybred. Let's see... What else can I build? |
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December 27th, 2013, 08:41 AM | #17 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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Brief update as parts start arriving.
Triples and forks have been mounted as well as clip-ons. Will have to wait till I get the bike further along so I can sit on it and get the bar angles and heights correct. I really dislike the bodywork limitations with the clip-ons though... |
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December 27th, 2013, 09:26 AM | #18 |
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Cut it. Draik run clip-ons sans risers but we had to cut the bodywork to get them to be able to work.
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December 27th, 2013, 09:30 AM | #19 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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January 5th, 2014, 07:51 PM | #20 |
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Name: Rich
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Looks great! Where did you get the fork caps?
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January 6th, 2014, 09:29 AM | #21 |
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Sling Shot Racing sells them.
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January 6th, 2014, 09:59 AM | #22 |
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Name: Shane
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Fun build man.
Whatever you do DO NOT CUT THE SUBFRAME!!!! Seems like a great idea to shave weight and to avoid the subframe smacking the ground and bending, but it's illegal. You're not allowed to chop up or shorten the frame in many supersport rules from different organizations. A couple of us, ahem, have made this mistake. |
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January 6th, 2014, 10:27 AM | #23 | |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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It's actually legal here in St. Louis with MCRA. I still may cut it, but need to look closer at how strong the tail will be without the rear mounting points...
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January 6th, 2014, 10:29 AM | #24 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
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Some progress yesterday since it was snowing like crazy.
Engine is bolted back together and bolted in the frame. Exhaust test fitted as well. |
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January 6th, 2014, 05:37 PM | #25 |
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Name: Rich
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January 6th, 2014, 06:31 PM | #26 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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I realize that, but since MCRA decided to have their own 250 rules that don't align with any other organization, I'm pretty much stuck with their series. I don't have any plans to race it in CCS, CMRA, or WERA anyway. I have too many extra curricular activities as it is now, so the 5 or 6 MCRA weekends will have to suffice.
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January 7th, 2014, 07:48 AM | #27 | |
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January 7th, 2014, 08:34 AM | #28 |
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Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
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January 21st, 2014, 04:26 PM | #29 |
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hey mark, are those armour bodies plastics? that's what i'm using. couple questions for ya. i see there that with the upper mounted up you don't have the top fairing bracket bolted on, are you going to put that back in at any point or are you gonna go without it. i was looking at mine today, and i guess it doesn't really seem all that necessary. also, did you have trouble getting your tail section on? i was trying to get mine on and there is no way it will go over the cross member in the subframe. i don't want to force it, i feel like i'm going to break it. am i missing some trick to this? i bought the bike without the plastics so i have no idea how the stock ones fit or where they mounted up, and definitely no idea how these ones should go back on. any tips?
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January 22nd, 2014, 01:41 PM | #30 |
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Name: Kyle
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Great build so far! Could you show more pictures of how you mounted the rear reservoir? It looks as if you have it inside the tail fairing.
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January 22nd, 2014, 01:45 PM | #31 | |
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If your interested I've got a kit ill sell for $12 shipped.
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January 22nd, 2014, 01:49 PM | #32 |
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I see, it looked as if you still had the stock rear reservoir attached. I need to rear over the rules again and see if I can do away with the stock reservoir.
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January 22nd, 2014, 02:45 PM | #33 |
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Location: Kingman, AZ
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looking good, wish i had the space to work on my 250r like that.
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January 23rd, 2014, 06:56 AM | #34 |
It's a long boring story
Name: Ryan
Location: St. Louis
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Ok, school me on the advantage of removing the resevoir. Is the tubing that much lighter?
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January 23rd, 2014, 10:07 AM | #35 | |
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January 23rd, 2014, 10:09 AM | #36 |
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Form and function. I like it.
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January 24th, 2014, 08:47 PM | #37 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
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The reservoir removal for me, is simplicity and weight reduction/cleanup.
Anything that I can get away with eliminating goes in the trash can. It all ads up. Mark |
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January 24th, 2014, 08:50 PM | #38 | |
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Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
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Josh,
This was just a cheap set off of ebay. I don't have an upper fairing bracket fabbed up yet, but I will be making an aluminum one to hold the upper in place. I think even though it's pretty solid as it is, once you get up to speed it will need support. The tail is a bit of a PITA to get on, but it will go. Just had to figure out the way to make it fit. Patience. Quote:
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May 6th, 2014, 09:30 PM | #39 |
Full Time Survivor
Name: Mark
Location: Saint Louis
Join Date: Oct 2013 Motorcycle(s): 2012 Panigale S, 2010 Streetfighter, 2008 250r, 2002 Sv650, 1999 Sv650, 1965 CB160, 1963 Vespa GS160 Posts: 43
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OK, I've skipped a bunch of steps but if you're on the FB you can see progress there.
https://www.facebook.com/mark.cook1/...8480085&type=3 I made the folder public, so you should be able to see the photos. A few more things to do, and I'll be relatively satisfied with it. Made 35hp on the dyno. Not too shabby. |
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May 7th, 2014, 08:29 AM | #40 |
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35hp is pretty high for a Ninja 250. Obviously depends on the dyno, conditions at the time etc., but seems that ~31-32hp is more inline with "supersport" build on pump gas.
Do you mind sharing any power related mods? (airbox, oil weight, jetting) |
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