Is Clear Bra supposed to look this bad?

lolibater · February 24th, 2013, 02:34 PM

Ok guys, so I picked up my white ST3 about 2 weeks ago. I've never had a car that looks good enough to warrant a clear bra installation until I got this one. As I've had bad experiences with tint and what not in the past, I made sure to go to a 3M Certified installer. The tint came out perfect. The clear bra installation, is leaving much to be desired. I am really unsure if I am just being picky, or if anyone else agrees that the way this stuff was cut looks like complete crap. It seems that they just straight up skipped problem areas by simply not covering them. The lines are jagged and do not match up with the lines of the body work at all. There are bubbles under the part where it should be sealed on the bottom. I took it back to them yesterday to have them get out some of the big bubbles, but it seems that they just rushed it super fast and mangled the car. There are numerous spots that also have razor blade marks into my paint. I know this stuff isn't supposed to be "completely invisible", but this just seems unacceptable.

So much for me having paint worth protecting

I'm really at a loss of what to do. What do you guys think?

80MPHdownhill · February 24th, 2013, 03:02 PM

that looks like freeze dried ass.

sLick415 · February 24th, 2013, 03:14 PM

That is one ****ed up job lol. How much did you pay and what was covered?

CC Cowboy · February 24th, 2013, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80MPHdownhill

that looks like freeze dried ass.

without the freeze dried

CynicalC · February 24th, 2013, 03:50 PM

Nope that's terribad. I wouldn't even give the shop a chance to make good on it. Go straight to 3m and get them to set things right and reassess that certification.

lgk · February 24th, 2013, 10:07 PM

cuts look they were done with a dull blade. and dont line up with the lines of the car at all. they either stretched the wrong spots or did not apply enough heat.looked look they should have covered it in one piece instead of a bunch of small pieces.

looks terrible... would get my money back for sure...

lolibater · February 24th, 2013, 10:23 PM

I have an appointment with them 9am this Wednesday for them to remove the clear bra and process a full refund.

This place shouldn't be certified for ****.

Domagoj · February 24th, 2013, 11:32 PM

I was hoping for an invisible bra.

sLick415 · February 24th, 2013, 11:44 PM

Which shop was this?

ChaoSS · February 25th, 2013, 01:43 AM

If they scratched your paint I would ask for more than a refund, I would tell them that you expect them to pay for a body shop to fix it all up correctly.

adouglas · February 25th, 2013, 02:53 AM

Oh. I thought this was going to be a thread about lingerie.

choneofakind · February 25th, 2013, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

Oh. I thought this was going to be a thread about lingerie.

One can only hope

lolibater · February 25th, 2013, 05:51 PM

I'll post the shop name after I'm good with how they have treated the removal, refund, and payment for damages.

BlueHairSar · February 25th, 2013, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adouglas

Oh. I thought this was going to be a thread about lingerie.

I'm glad I'm not the only one...

Domagoj · February 26th, 2013, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHairSar

I'm glad I'm not the only one...

Well, I was the first but ignored as usual...

nautica · February 26th, 2013, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolibater

I'll post the shop name after I'm good with how they have treated the removal, refund, and payment for damages.

That is one half assed job. I have it on my 9-7x that was installed by the previous owner and the only way you can tell it's on there is if you're fairly close, and you're only supposed to see a clean outline following the bodywork. Hopefully they work with you, if not get a refund and go elsewhere. I'd also make them pay for paint scratches caused by them but that could be hard to do.

BlueHairSar · February 26th, 2013, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domagoj

Well, I was the first but ignored as usual...

Awww! It's only 'cause adouglas had a photo and I was skimming.

lolibater · February 26th, 2013, 09:38 AM

lol you guys are hilarious. There are no **** in here; gtfo.

mlj2093 · February 26th, 2013, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoSS

If they scratched your paint I would ask for more than a refund, I would tell them that you expect them to pay for a body shop to fix it all up correctly.

+1 on this. I have a actually worked with these several times. I have trouble believing that this came from 3M. It normally isn't a sheet that needs to be cut to the shape of the car. 3M makes a software that cuts them to the exact model of car. I might go as far as to say that what they used isn't even 3M (it looks much thicker than any that I have ever handled) and if it is it is just generic 3M clear vinyl.

http://www.Shop3M.com/3m-paint-prote...-patterns.html

If they claim to be certified this is the software that they should be using to get the cuts.

lolibater · February 26th, 2013, 10:08 AM

I have little faith that they are certified, but according to the 3M site they were

mlj2093 · February 26th, 2013, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolibater

I have little faith that they are certified, but according to the 3M site they were

I would send the pictures to 3M as well. They may have been at one point, but that work is terrible.

lolibater · February 26th, 2013, 10:48 AM

I will make sure to give 3M a call tomorrow after the removal. I will take pictures of the paint scratches too.

BlueHairSar · February 26th, 2013, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolibater

lol you guys are hilarious. There are no **** in here; gtfo.

Boobs? ... I think you're allowed to say that one

Also, if I were to start a thread saying: "Which thongs should I wear" you would more than likely go here:

instead of here:

You know it's true.

choneofakind · February 26th, 2013, 12:24 PM

^^ I'm totally fine with this idea. Loli, start another thread asking about sandals.

lolibater · February 26th, 2013, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueHairSar

Boobs? ... I think you're allowed to say that one

Also, if I were to start a thread saying: "Which thongs should I wear" you would more than likely go here:

instead of here:

You know it's true.

I said ****, not boobs.

Same thing lol.

But yeah, I can't wait to get this stuff taken off tomorrow morning. Hopefully this stuff removes easily.

NDspd · February 28th, 2013, 08:50 AM

Holy crap that's an absolutely *&^%y job...hell my mother with a pair of child scissors could do better.

Hope you get all that resolved.

alex.s · February 28th, 2013, 10:16 AM

saw title, was hopefull. saw thread, instant let down.

dfox · February 28th, 2013, 10:38 AM

that's a terrible, half-assed job. I could do a better job.

mlj2093 · February 28th, 2013, 11:24 AM

Any updates after the removal?

adouglas · February 28th, 2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlj2093

Any updates after the removal?

That's what SHE said.

adouglas · February 28th, 2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolibater

lol you guys are hilarious. There are no **** in here; gtfo.

That's what SHE said, looking down her shirt.

lolibater · February 28th, 2013, 07:41 PM

Removal went decent. Not as many scratches as I thought, but still a few. I couldn't get them to agree to pay for those, so I am having the new clear bra place do some touch up before they install the new one. Just dropped it off a few hours ago, and it should be ready by tomorrow night.

I'll be sure to post a picture of the new stuff for comparison. Just judging by the staff and shop location alone, this place will blow the other out of the water. They were wrapping a SLS, Panamera GTS, and a Tesla when I arrived there today. Fancy.

sLick415 · February 28th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Glad to hear everything worked out for the most part. Now which shop was this?

lolibater · February 28th, 2013, 07:51 PM

The crapjob shop was Windows Tinting Plus in Fremont. Do not go there. Actually, their window tint was great. Clear bra != window tint.

sLick415 · February 28th, 2013, 07:58 PM

Fremont huh. You took it to Premier this time didnt you.

lolibater · February 28th, 2013, 08:10 PM

Lol, I got an estimate from Premier, but chose to go with the "#2" place in the area, Elite Auto Films.

Premier is hands down the best in the area, but I can't justify their cost on a vehicle of my price.

That being said, I really didn't see much difference in quality whatsoever for Premier vs Elite. The only difference I saw was on one of the custom bumpers, but as the car was only at Elite, I couldn't really compare a similar car from Premier.

I opted for a custom full hood (hate that half hood line), rear deck lid, door edges and door cups, with pre cut front bumper, headlights, foglights (yellow clear bra), side mirrors and half fenders.

It's odd that upgrading from half fender to full fender is one of the most expensive options. I absolutely had to have the full hood though. We shall see how it comes out

ChaoSS · March 1st, 2013, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolibater

Removal went decent. Not as many scratches as I thought, but still a few. I couldn't get them to agree to pay for those,

A filing in small claims court should clear that up pretty quickly. They did damage to your vehicle, it's a pretty clear cut and dry case.

lolibater · March 1st, 2013, 07:54 PM

I really don't have the time or money to go to small claims court. I don't want any more headache with these people ever again. The place that I brought it for reinstallation did paint repair for me with the paint I brought them from the dealer.

I'll be picking it up in about 30 min

lolibater · March 6th, 2013, 05:36 PM

Went in for my follow up today to get a few bubbles removed. They also applied the precut yellow fog film, but it was too small in diameter. It allows for some white light to get around it.

The guy said he wanted it to be perfect, so he's going to custom cut some yellow film on friday and apply that for free. I really love this place.

Also got to check out their 1000+hp twin charged mazda w/ no2. God damn that car is mean.

Pics of my car to come friday or saturday

sorry for the delay.

lolibater · March 10th, 2013, 01:50 PM

Finally some sun out to show you guys the new stuffs. In all honesty, it was really hard to get pictures that show the clear bra; just how it should be. I'm 100% satisfied with the way it came out. You really can't see it unless you're looking for it. The full custom hood coverage was definitely a good choice. It looks so clean without that hood line.

February 24th, 2013, 02:34 PM	#1
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	Is Clear Bra supposed to look this bad? Ok guys, so I picked up my white ST3 about 2 weeks ago. I've never had a car that looks good enough to warrant a clear bra installation until I got this one. As I've had bad experiences with tint and what not in the past, I made sure to go to a 3M Certified installer. The tint came out perfect. The clear bra installation, is leaving much to be desired. I am really unsure if I am just being picky, or if anyone else agrees that the way this stuff was cut looks like complete crap. It seems that they just straight up skipped problem areas by simply not covering them. The lines are jagged and do not match up with the lines of the body work at all. There are bubbles under the part where it should be sealed on the bottom. I took it back to them yesterday to have them get out some of the big bubbles, but it seems that they just rushed it super fast and mangled the car. There are numerous spots that also have razor blade marks into my paint. I know this stuff isn't supposed to be "completely invisible", but this just seems unacceptable. So much for me having paint worth protecting I'm really at a loss of what to do. What do you guys think? __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 24th, 2013, 03:50 PM	#5
CynicalC ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Colin Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): '96 EX250 Posts: A lot.	Nope that's terribad. I wouldn't even give the shop a chance to make good on it. Go straight to 3m and get them to set things right and reassess that certification. __________________________________________________ Ç¥ñï©ª\| ßÿ Ñâ7µ®é. Äñt¡~§º¢Ïä\| ßý Çhøî©è.

February 24th, 2013, 10:07 PM	#6
lgk ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Dec 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2012 EX250, 2014 EX300 Posts: A lot.	cuts look they were done with a dull blade. and dont line up with the lines of the car at all. they either stretched the wrong spots or did not apply enough heat.looked look they should have covered it in one piece instead of a bunch of small pieces. looks terrible... would get my money back for sure... __________________________________________________ Ethioknight Memorial Fund- Sticker sale http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=111700

February 24th, 2013, 10:23 PM	#7
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	I have an appointment with them 9am this Wednesday for them to remove the clear bra and process a full refund. This place shouldn't be certified for ****. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 25th, 2013, 05:51 PM	#13
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	I'll post the shop name after I'm good with how they have treated the removal, refund, and payment for damages. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 24th, 2013, 03:02 PM	#2
80MPHdownhill ninjette.org member Name: Brian Location: Cal Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Yes, please. Posts: 121	that looks like freeze dried ass.

February 24th, 2013, 03:14 PM	#3
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	That is one ****ed up job lol. How much did you pay and what was covered?

February 24th, 2013, 11:32 PM	#8
Domagoj ninjette.org guru Name: Domagoj Location: Rijeka, Croatia Join Date: Aug 2010 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250r 2009 Posts: 396	I was hoping for an invisible bra.

February 24th, 2013, 11:44 PM	#9
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	Which shop was this?

February 25th, 2013, 01:43 AM	#10
ChaoSS ninjette.org sage Name: Tim Location: Goshen CA Join Date: Oct 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2012 red 250 ninja Posts: 740	If they scratched your paint I would ask for more than a refund, I would tell them that you expect them to pay for a body shop to fix it all up correctly.

February 25th, 2013, 02:53 AM	#11
adouglas Cat herder Name: Gort Location: A secret lair which, being secret, has an undisclosed location Join Date: May 2009 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia RS660 Posts: A lot. Blog Entries: 6 MOTM - Jul '18, Nov '16, Aug '14, May '13	Oh. I thought this was going to be a thread about lingerie.

February 26th, 2013, 09:38 AM	#18
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	lol you guys are hilarious. There are no **** in here; gtfo. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 26th, 2013, 10:08 AM	#20
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	I have little faith that they are certified, but according to the 3M site they were __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 26th, 2013, 10:48 AM	#22
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	I will make sure to give 3M a call tomorrow after the removal. I will take pictures of the paint scratches too. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 26th, 2013, 12:24 PM	#24
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	^^ I'm totally fine with this idea. Loli, start another thread asking about sandals.

February 28th, 2013, 08:50 AM	#26
NDspd 1/4 English, 3/4 Kick Ass Name: Jeremy Location: Dayton, OH Join Date: Sep 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Triumph Speed Triple 955i, '05 Suzuki SV650S(retired), '11 Ninja 250R(sold) Posts: A lot.	Holy crap that's an absolutely *&^%y job...hell my mother with a pair of child scissors could do better. Hope you get all that resolved.

February 28th, 2013, 10:16 AM	#27
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	saw title, was hopefull. saw thread, instant let down. __________________________________________________

February 28th, 2013, 10:38 AM	#28
dfox ninjette.org sage Name: Fox Location: Boston Join Date: May 2012 Motorcycle(s): 08 250R Posts: 881	that's a terrible, half-assed job. I could do a better job.

February 28th, 2013, 11:24 AM	#29
mlj2093 ninjette.org member Name: Matt Location: Norfolk, VA Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2011 Kawi 250 SE Posts: 105	Any updates after the removal?

February 28th, 2013, 07:41 PM	#32
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	Removal went decent. Not as many scratches as I thought, but still a few. I couldn't get them to agree to pay for those, so I am having the new clear bra place do some touch up before they install the new one. Just dropped it off a few hours ago, and it should be ready by tomorrow night. I'll be sure to post a picture of the new stuff for comparison. Just judging by the staff and shop location alone, this place will blow the other out of the water. They were wrapping a SLS, Panamera GTS, and a Tesla when I arrived there today. Fancy. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 28th, 2013, 07:45 PM	#33
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	Glad to hear everything worked out for the most part. Now which shop was this?

February 28th, 2013, 07:51 PM	#34
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	The crapjob shop was Windows Tinting Plus in Fremont. Do not go there. Actually, their window tint was great. Clear bra != window tint. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

February 28th, 2013, 07:58 PM	#35
sLick415 ninjette.org guru Name: Danny Location: San Francisco, CA Join Date: Dec 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250R Posts: 263	Fremont huh. You took it to Premier this time didnt you.

February 28th, 2013, 08:10 PM	#36
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	Lol, I got an estimate from Premier, but chose to go with the "#2" place in the area, Elite Auto Films. Premier is hands down the best in the area, but I can't justify their cost on a vehicle of my price. That being said, I really didn't see much difference in quality whatsoever for Premier vs Elite. The only difference I saw was on one of the custom bumpers, but as the car was only at Elite, I couldn't really compare a similar car from Premier. I opted for a custom full hood (hate that half hood line), rear deck lid, door edges and door cups, with pre cut front bumper, headlights, foglights (yellow clear bra), side mirrors and half fenders. It's odd that upgrading from half fender to full fender is one of the most expensive options. I absolutely had to have the full hood though. We shall see how it comes out __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

March 1st, 2013, 07:54 PM	#38
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	I really don't have the time or money to go to small claims court. I don't want any more headache with these people ever again. The place that I brought it for reinstallation did paint repair for me with the paint I brought them from the dealer. I'll be picking it up in about 30 min __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

March 6th, 2013, 05:36 PM	#39
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	Went in for my follow up today to get a few bubbles removed. They also applied the precut yellow fog film, but it was too small in diameter. It allows for some white light to get around it. The guy said he wanted it to be perfect, so he's going to custom cut some yellow film on friday and apply that for free. I really love this place. Also got to check out their 1000+hp twin charged mazda w/ no2. God damn that car is mean. Pics of my car to come friday or saturday sorry for the delay. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

March 10th, 2013, 01:50 PM	#40
lolibater ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Rick Location: Napa, CA Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2005 ZX6R, 2011 Sprint GT Posts: A lot.	Finally some sun out to show you guys the new stuffs. In all honesty, it was really hard to get pictures that show the clear bra; just how it should be. I'm 100% satisfied with the way it came out. You really can't see it unless you're looking for it. The full custom hood coverage was definitely a good choice. It looks so clean without that hood line. __________________________________________________ "The enemy is fear. We think it is hate, but it is fear." - Gandhi

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