Need some suggestions with this situation

bikermunda · September 9th, 2010, 12:27 AM

So everytime it is little cool outside i need to use the choke and then wait for 10-15 mins for the bike to idle properly before i can ride. I am okie with this when i am doing it at home but when i am outside late night to be honest i dont want to be sitting on the road on my bike for 10-15 because that damn thing takes that long or when i am with my friends they all have to wait for me

It is there a fix or solution that can improve the situation for me

kkim · September 9th, 2010, 12:59 AM

you can either shim the needles which will hasten warm up

or

leave the bike as is and ride off with the choke partially engaged. don't forget to turn the choke off after the bike is fully warmed up.

needless to say, no WOT until the bike is warmed up and the choke is off.

want1sobad · September 9th, 2010, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you can shim the needles.

ha! beat me to it

bob706 · September 9th, 2010, 06:42 AM

10-15 minutes seems excessive.

dubojr1 · September 9th, 2010, 07:14 AM

Definately time to shim. Well worth the effort!

demp · September 9th, 2010, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you can either shim the needles which will hasten warm up

or

leave the bike as is and ride off with the choke partially engaged. don't forget to turn the choke off after the bike is fully warmed up.

needless to say, no WOT until the bike is warmed up and the choke is off.

Kkim,

If say last year my bike was practically instantly ready to go, and this year it requires some time to warm up, would the cleanliness of the carbs not come into play with something like this? & yes dubojr1 I need to rip apart the bike this weekend anyways, so I will get the # off the batt, I can't seem to find the box it came in

dubojr1 · September 9th, 2010, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demp

Kkim,

If say last year my bike was practically instantly ready to go, and this year it requires some time to warm up, would the cleanliness of the carbs not come into play with something like this? & yes dubojr1 I need to rip apart the bike this weekend anyways, so I will get the # off the batt, I can't seem to find the box it came in

kkim is carb Yoda and he can prolly guide you to the solution but I would say if this is a developed problem with previous good history then yes there prolly is some concern of the carbs being dirty. Some guys rave about seafoam. Have you tried that?

demp · September 9th, 2010, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubojr1

kkim is carb Yoda and he can prolly guide you to the solution but I would say if this is a developed problem with previous good history then yes there prolly is some concern of the carbs being dirty. Some guys rave about seafoam. Have you tried that?

I think he may have given me the answer way back when - I tried some seafoam in the tank, but I think I'm going to try his other method tomorrow night

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...447#post211447

Alex · September 9th, 2010, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob706

10-15 minutes seems excessive.

> 1 minute seems excessive. OP is from California. Letting it sit and idle for that long isn't helping anything, even if it is a particularly cold-blooded bike. Getting it moving and running it under even any load will warm it up much better and quicker than just sitting there.

bikermunda · September 12th, 2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkim

you can either shim the needles which will hasten warm up

or

leave the bike as is and ride off with the choke partially engaged. don't forget to turn the choke off after the bike is fully warmed up.

needless to say, no WOT until the bike is warmed up and the choke is off.

I will love to shim the needles but i don't think i am up to it to do it. so will be looking to see if someone can help me do it

mrlmd · September 13th, 2010, 10:37 AM

Why do you need to wait 10-15 min for the bike to warm up before you can ride? All these bikes are cold-blooded and need the choke to start first thing in the morning or with a cold engine. After it starts, adjust the choke to 2500-3000 rpms at most and just slowly ride off and it will warm up quicker, turning down the choke gradually over a few minutes. It will warm up much faster riding it than letting it sit in the driveway running.

want1sobad · September 13th, 2010, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikermunda

I will love to shim the needles but i don't think i am up to it to do it. so will be looking to see if someone can help me do it

Vik,

shimming the needles is really easy, seriously. read the diy on the forum a few times so you have the concept down before you tear into the bike. make sure you have the proper tools and take your time - you'll learn more about your bike in the process

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showt...imming+needles

bob138 · September 13th, 2010, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demp

Kkim,

If say last year my bike was practically instantly ready to go, and this year it requires some time to warm up, would the cleanliness of the carbs not come into play with something like this? & yes dubojr1 I need to rip apart the bike this weekend anyways, so I will get the # off the batt, I can't seem to find the box it came in

If it sat too long then the pilot jets could be clogged. Happened to my buddies 2007 ex250. We had to spray the pilot jets and circuit pretty heavy. But. After that it ran like a dream

Bob

mrlmd · September 14th, 2010, 06:53 AM

Before you start taking things apart, why don't you try some Seafoam or Berryman's B12 Chemtool (better and cheaper) mixed in the gas -1 oz/gal - first and see if that clears up your problem? Much easier and much less chance of messing something up worse than you think it is now,

September 9th, 2010, 12:27 AM	#1
bikermunda Ninja World YAY Name: Vik Location: Bay Area Join Date: Feb 2009 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 102	Need some suggestions with this situation So everytime it is little cool outside i need to use the choke and then wait for 10-15 mins for the bike to idle properly before i can ride. I am okie with this when i am doing it at home but when i am outside late night to be honest i dont want to be sitting on the road on my bike for 10-15 because that damn thing takes that long or when i am with my friends they all have to wait for me It is there a fix or solution that can improve the situation for me

September 9th, 2010, 07:14 AM	#5
dubojr1 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Jason Location: Jacksonville, Florida Join Date: May 2010 Motorcycle(s): 09 Ninja 250R SE, 07 Honda CRF230F, 06 Honda CRF150F Posts: A lot.	Definately time to shim. Well worth the effort! __________________________________________________ 09 250R SE: Paying it forward one post at a time! Don't forget to add yourself to our Member Map

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September 9th, 2010, 12:59 AM	#2
kkim Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: Too much.	you can either shim the needles which will hasten warm up or leave the bike as is and ride off with the choke partially engaged. don't forget to turn the choke off after the bike is fully warmed up. needless to say, no WOT until the bike is warmed up and the choke is off.

September 9th, 2010, 06:42 AM	#4
bob706 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Sean Location: Mary Esther, FL Join Date: Jan 2009 Motorcycle(s): 2008 Ninja 250 1998 HD Road King Posts: A lot.	10-15 minutes seems excessive.

September 13th, 2010, 10:37 AM	#11
mrlmd ninjette.org sage Name: Marc Location: Crawfordville, Florida Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Suzuki S50, 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F, 1990 Honda PC800, 2000 Yamaha TW200 Posts: 848	Why do you need to wait 10-15 min for the bike to warm up before you can ride? All these bikes are cold-blooded and need the choke to start first thing in the morning or with a cold engine. After it starts, adjust the choke to 2500-3000 rpms at most and just slowly ride off and it will warm up quicker, turning down the choke gradually over a few minutes. It will warm up much faster riding it than letting it sit in the driveway running.

September 14th, 2010, 06:53 AM	#14
mrlmd ninjette.org sage Name: Marc Location: Crawfordville, Florida Join Date: Jan 2010 Motorcycle(s): 2005 Suzuki S50, 2006 Kawasaki Ninja EX250F, 1990 Honda PC800, 2000 Yamaha TW200 Posts: 848	Before you start taking things apart, why don't you try some Seafoam or Berryman's B12 Chemtool (better and cheaper) mixed in the gas -1 oz/gal - first and see if that clears up your problem? Much easier and much less chance of messing something up worse than you think it is now,