July 25th, 2012, 06:15 PM | #1 |
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New with sore butt
Ok, I thought the title would get some attention
My bike is 5 days old, for the first 3 days, the bones on my bottom were sore - kinda like breaking in a bicycle again. Is this normal? Am I riding wrong? Yesterday was the first day it was feeling better and we were able to get a few nice rides in, then we had to make a detour down a bumpy road and then - I got a sore butt again. Before I got my 250R, I rode my husbands Honda for a few days and did not have any problems and all I rode on were bumpy roads, I don't understand. I read thru the suspension section on wiki and I don't think I want to make it any harder, but I could be wrong. Any ideas? |
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July 25th, 2012, 06:18 PM | #2 |
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New seat, the stock one is made of wood
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July 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM | #3 |
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July 25th, 2012, 06:50 PM | #4 |
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Great title!! I did a double take on it
As for your cheeks, try standing up periodically to help blood flow, and standing up over bumps nd stuff as well. Might seem dumb riding a ninja like a klx, but it works for my posterior comfort level when I'm riding all day Posted via Mobile Device |
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July 25th, 2012, 06:53 PM | #5 |
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Haha the new-gen seat is terrible! So is the pre-gen one, especially for someone my height. I think my ass is finally getting used to it. I just did 320+ miles today and was in a lot less pain/sore than normal.
The Corbin seats look nice. http://www.corbin.com/kawasaki/kn250r8f.shtml |
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July 25th, 2012, 07:24 PM | #6 |
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OMG!!! Made of wood????? Well that explains it. My husband said I should look into a new seat, but it was getting better till the dreaded. . . . bumpy road.
I thought with a cleaver subject I could catch some takers -- and it worked I can be sneaky, so watch out. But I do appreciate the advice or shall I say my bottom thanks you. I guess with just starting out I didn't think of stopping and standing a bit, I am having too much fun and I just didn't want to stop. 320+ miles???? Dirty Nasty -- it is gonna be a while, oh it just hurts thinking of that many miles right now. |
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July 25th, 2012, 07:37 PM | #7 |
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I find that there is "growing pains" with anything that has two wheels. For BMX bikes it was my wrists. For motocross it was my whole body haha. For the street bike it has been my really long legs, bad knees and love for motorcycles that are designed for jockeys, not lanky goofballs like myself. Lately the pains in my knees have been getting a lot lighter. I think I'm merely adjusting. Although my left knee does feel blasted to all hell sometimes.
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July 25th, 2012, 07:46 PM | #8 |
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For real long rides you might also want to look into padded bicycle underwear, helps throw some padding on the bones without changing the bike. I use them when ever I take my bike on a long haul. Also use your legs a little more creating a couple inch gap between your arse and seat when on rough sections of the road, side benefit it will stop the bike from trying to buck you.
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July 26th, 2012, 01:41 PM | #9 |
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I went out for a short ride today and did use my legs to raise me and it helped. I just don't know how hot it would be with shorts under jeans right now, but if I get desperate, I may give it a shot, thank you for the advice I really appreciate all the help.
Dirty Nasty I can relate to your knee problems, I have had 4 knee surgeries myself and they do act up when I abuse them. Anyway, thanks again for all the suggestions, I really do appreciate all the help and I will try them to see what works for me. But something good has come out of this, I have officially named my bike: . . . . . . . HARDASS! |
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July 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM | #10 |
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I frequently stand on the footpegs. And sometimes, I use the passenger footpegs when my knees start hurting.
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July 26th, 2012, 03:18 PM | #11 |
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i put a little bit of weight on my pegs. also move my butt around a lot. helps with the monkey butt
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July 26th, 2012, 07:13 PM | #13 |
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Well I don't know if I am ready for standing yet. We went out for a ride this evening and I almost lost it big time. This huge gust of wind came out from the side, next thing I know I am blown off the road going towards the ditch and somehow (I don't know what happened) I ended back on the road again. I felt bad b/c we just got out chatterbox in our helmets and were trying them out and everyone heard me scream. I didn't know I what I was supposed to do, until we pulled over and my husband was telling me I should have corrected. Guess I need more experience. I thought I was getting the hang of things and feeling good about riding, now my confidence is out the window .
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July 26th, 2012, 07:22 PM | #15 |
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July 27th, 2012, 07:36 AM | #17 |
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Trust me EthioKnight, I am going to have to grow some big balls to get on the bike today, it is a little windy. I am going to practice countersteering at a slower speed around our house. My husband is going to create a course for me tonight so I can learn to zig-zag and swerve around objects better. He is a good man, I am a big chicken
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July 27th, 2012, 07:55 AM | #18 |
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Relax your arms and shoulders in the wind, or else the wind will have a direct input to the bars through your stiff upper body.
Ethio, dude that's ridiculous! They know you're supposed to stand up to cushion and goose it to lighten the front over bumps right? That's dumb. Just explain that's what you do on a bike or else you get bounced around. But be respectful. Police can be jerks, but they also can be great allies. They're just doing their job and are accustomed to people treating them like crap. Posted via Mobile Device |
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July 27th, 2012, 07:56 AM | #19 |
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on the long hauls i usually end up sitting on the passenger seat, it really helps out my knees and my bottom due to no one ever sitting back there alot more of the padding is left than up front
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July 27th, 2012, 04:28 PM | #20 |
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Well got on the bike today and started to learn how to countersteer and guess what????? Yep, looked in the rear view mirror and there is the local Sheriff and he was so kind to follow me into my driveway He looked at my bike and said, "I bet you don't have an endorsement for that thing do you?", I said "I sure do," and showed him my license and explained my ordeal yesterday and what I was doing to correct it. He seemed ok with it and told me to be careful. That gets me, earlier today I saw a car with no back lights turning - granted they were using their hands to signal WITH a sheriff BEHIND them and they did not get followed -- me swerving from side to side on the road and BAM I get asked to see my license. Oh well, I am feeling better about countersteering now
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July 27th, 2012, 04:47 PM | #21 | |
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July 27th, 2012, 05:16 PM | #22 |
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LOL, I think he is still worried about me increasing his life insurance -- don't think I have a chance getting him to stand in front of me
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July 27th, 2012, 06:18 PM | #23 |
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July 27th, 2012, 06:43 PM | #24 |
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Well mine is just a poor ol' country guy and I just keep looking for more and more life insur. policies, can't blame a woman for trying
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July 28th, 2012, 06:14 AM | #25 |
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+1 to all good advice above.
Standing on pegs over bumps saves my butt a lot. They even taught it in my MSF course. I feel there is a toughening stage for your butt to get used to the saddle - same as with a bicycle, same sit-bones too! It gets easier A new seat might be in the works, but also check your suspension. You can adjust it for your weight, so the rear suspension will actually *work* like it's supposed to (unless you're a featherweight like me lol, and out of the stock suspension range. I compensate by running a little less in my tires and standing up off the seat *a lot* until I can install a new spring and sort it out.) If your suspension isn't set up for you, it isn't absorbing any of those bumps, so they go straight to your butt. It's not very confidence inspiring in a new rider to be bounced all over the road, practically off the bike! |
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July 28th, 2012, 10:24 AM | #26 |
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One thing I have been working on is using the gas tank and lifting myself off the seat a bit and that has helped alot. I think also just riding and getting my rear end used to the seat has helped. Right now the bike is the perfect height for me so I am not wanting to raise it anymore so I fear raising the suspension any, but if I continue having problems, that may be another option. I have been checking into another seat, but the reviews don't look as promising as I hoped. Anyone change their seat and happy with the "comfort" level? Just curious.
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July 28th, 2012, 01:39 PM | #27 |
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I don't think changing the suspension changes the seat height. I certainly wouldn't want my seat any higher either!
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July 28th, 2012, 04:03 PM | #28 |
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Well that is good to know -- then I will give it a try for sure, thanks
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July 28th, 2012, 09:10 PM | #29 |
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Modifying the suspension can indeed change the seat height. I wish I could jack my Ninja up a good 3" on the seat height. I also want rear-sets and along with that I'd love a higher seat so that my knees wouldn't be as cramped. I'm 6'1", a lil' too tall for sports bikes I feel sometimes.
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July 29th, 2012, 06:22 AM | #30 |
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It does? So does it change seat height if you're just changing the collar adjustment on the rear shock, if you replace the spring, or if you swap out the whole rear suspension setup?
From what I've read rearsets can help really tall riders, I hope your knees aren't killing you! Ergonomics aside, I see plenty of tall people on low bikes, and short people on really big bikes. My sister is the same height as me and rides an R1, much taller seat! |
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July 29th, 2012, 07:59 AM | #31 |
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Adjusting the stock suspension does not change the seat height at rest. It will play with the sag. If you swap springs but maintain the stock uncompressed spring length, the seat height will be the same. If you replace the stock shock with another shock of unequal eye to eye length, you will change the seat height.
EDIT: One thing to keep the butt nice and comfy on long rides are biking shorts. I discovered that using my racing bibs not only makes it 10x easier to get in and out of sweaty leathers, but makes my butt hurt a lot less! I never realized how much they helped until I rode without them for more than 2 hours. |
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July 29th, 2012, 05:04 PM | #32 |
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You get used to it. It's like riding a bicycle for the first time in a long time. After a few weeks, you don't notice it. I took a 600 mile trip to Florida back in June and soreness didn't creep in until about 350 miles or so on the stock seat. Shifting your weight once in a while, standing on the pegs for a bit, or stretching your legs out on frame sliders helps. I can see how bicycle shorts would help, but I haven't tried yet. It's a little too warm here right now.
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July 29th, 2012, 05:14 PM | #33 |
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Being as I'm going to a 800+ mile trip here soon, this inspires me to do something.. I'm gonna go see what kinda foam/gel I can get, and add another more comfortable top layer to the seat.
Hopefully tackle it this week and see... will post up some more info once I start on this project. |
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July 29th, 2012, 06:43 PM | #35 |
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I don't know why some company hasn't created a gel type seat already -- I would buy it for sure. I do have biking shorts and wear them when we ride our bicycles, but now i have upgraded to my 250, lol.
I do think I need to get something with my bike name on it -- it fits her well - great idea R1Chronicles Rode my bike today with a little bit of wind gusts and I only freaked out a little bit, BUT I was able to counter steer - still a little shaky from the other day, but I am only human (I think). |
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July 29th, 2012, 08:14 PM | #36 |
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July 29th, 2012, 08:19 PM | #37 |
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Gelseats for a bicycle are a hoax! There are custom seat upholsters that put gel on top of the foam underneath the seat covering, some people swear by it, others don't.
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July 29th, 2012, 08:52 PM | #38 |
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This is the best $20 bucks I ever spent! Fits and conforms to the seat like it was made for it.
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July 30th, 2012, 06:46 AM | #39 |
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R1Chroncles - That was priceless, I love it. I can't wait to show my husband when he gets home tonight.
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July 30th, 2012, 06:48 AM | #40 |
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DaBlue1 where did you get that seat? Does it slide? How do you attach it to the bike? Do tell, it looks so comfy . . . . .
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