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Old March 18th, 2013, 01:43 PM   #41
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"speed limit" depends on the bike. my 250 is limited to 105ishMPH. but my 600 isn't limited until 145.
I know the title could be a little confusing, but I didnt know how to edit it that's y I added "marked speed limit" hoping it would help clarify things a bit.

sorry but i was asking whether you follow the road speed limit or not
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Got my 250 to read 115mph last weekend. So technically I guess that is my speed "limit". :P It's rare to have a clear straight long enough to accomplish that feat.

In all seriousness, I try to keep it no more than 15mph over the limit, 10 if I'm in an area with traffic and/or cops.

Edit: Just read through everyone's responses. Yep, what Alex said. :P
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Got my 250 to read 115mph last weekend. So technically I guess that is my speed "limit". :P It's rare to have a clear straight long enough to accomplish that feat.

In all seriousness, I try to keep it no more than 15mph over the limit, 10 if I'm in an area with traffic and/or cops.

Edit: Just read through everyone's responses. Yep, what Alex said. :P
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Got my 250 to read 115mph last weekend. So technically I guess that is my speed "limit". :P It's rare to have a clear straight long enough to accomplish that feat.

In all seriousness, I try to keep it no more than 15mph over the limit, 10 if I'm in an area with traffic and/or cops.

Edit: Just read through everyone's responses. Yep, what Alex said. :P
What.... 115? km or mph??? My 6fiddy will only go 122mph.... you go girl!
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What.... 115? km or mph??? My 6fiddy will only go 122mph.... you go girl!
I don't weigh much. And it was on a nice, LONG downhill straight with very good sight distance from all angles. So yeah, that one spot is where Little Ninj and I can hit records. LOL!

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Wait, we're suppose to follow the speed limit like cars and trucks do.



I always go faster than the traffic around me. I hate being stuck behind other vehicles.
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ummm... If you read my other posts you'll notice that I've progressed much faster than most people probably would expect in just a month and a half. I am confident in the way in which I ride in the streets whether slow or fast. I've put 1500 miles on the bike.. now that's a lot of riding if you ask me. (including a trip from Tampa to Miami). I asked the question not because I'm scared to ride on the street (regardless of traffic conditions), but rather because I didnt wanna get pulled over for speeding.. so I wonder how others were doing?

in my own mind, I figured if you're doing slightly less than the speed limit you risk getting stuck behind cars all the time which is not good if everyone is doing the speed limit or above it.. at least over here In Tampa near the school.
Don't get cocky too soon, 1500 miles is a good weekend's spin. Come back when there's another zero on the end & you'll have a reasonable start

Learn when you can give it a good wind on & when to reign in the throttle.

Usually I behave myself in residential areas, give it around the speed limit or a bit over on larger roads & completely ignore speed limits on twisty roads or motorways. (That just means that I use my own judgement, but anything goes where I see fit, 150+ on a mate's bike on a clear stretch of poker straight good surfaced road for example, 130ish test riding a Ducati with a pro in front of me, I could keep track of anything that caused him to adjust his ride, so I was happy to push the pace above what I would do on that stretch by myself)
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Old March 19th, 2013, 12:44 AM   #50
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Where I'm from the speed limit for bikes is about 30mph everywhere!!

That is the speed limit that they set when the caveman invented the wheel and the authorities never really got around to changing it, go figure

So I keep it varying from 40 to 60 mph just so that I don't get run over from behind
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Well, I can't talk for everyone or every place but over here people drive like they have something against you. if you stay behind a car for too long you risk getting boxed in or rear-ended by other cars, or they drive behind you in such away that you have to switch lane whether you wanted to or not.
The reality is that you will be behind and in front of some car or truck most of the times.

Constantly switching lanes is not the best approach, in my experience.

The car or truck next to you has much more power to sweep you away that those in front and behind you (rear ends are only 2% of all the motorcycle's accidents).

You have control over the car in front, keeping distance and away from the center of the lane (from where debris will suddenly come to you).

Move over for tailgaters after a little time, or, if not possible, slow down progressively until the driver decides to go around.

Speed up or slowdown as needed to stay away from blind spots and never idle next to a car/truck, even if it is far from your side.

During the first months of riding, the newbie is the greatest danger to himself.

She/he is developing skills that are non-natural, and that takes time, more for some, less for others.

After the rider learns the basic skills, immediately becomes overconfident, speeds up and lowers the guard.

It always takes a dangerous or complicated situation to trigger one or more survival reactions and to make that rider wake up to the realm that her/his basic skills are less than enough to survive in traffic, and that the need for education continues.

You want that unavoidable complicated situation to happen after you have trained emergency braking and evasive maneuvers long enough to make them automatic (you are on your own practicing those, you don't learn those during track days).

You may be a gifted rider, but please, don't allow yourself to become overconfident while you are learning to become one with your machine and to eliminate the natural SRs (survival reactions).

"The rider is the wild card, the unpredictable and variable component in the package. And his problem is with the SRs that are triggered, nothing else." - Keith Code
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No, when overtaking, i slow down to like 5-10 over their speed, but our highways are practically empty most of the time
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The reality is that you will be behind and in front of some car or truck most of the times.

Constantly switching lanes is not the best approach, in my experience.

The car or truck next to you has much more power to sweep you away that those in front and behind you (rear ends are only 2% of all the motorcycle's accidents).

You have control over the car in front, keeping distance and away from the center of the lane (from where debris will suddenly come to you).

Move over for tailgaters after a little time, or, if not possible, slow down progressively until the driver decides to go around.

Speed up or slowdown as needed to stay away from blind spots and never idle next to a car/truck, even if it is far from your side.

During the first months of riding, the newbie is the greatest danger to himself.

She/he is developing skills that are non-natural, and that takes time, more for some, less for others.

After the rider learns the basic skills, immediately becomes overconfident, speeds up and lowers the guard.

It always takes a dangerous or complicated situation to trigger one or more survival reactions and to make that rider wake up to the realm that her/his basic skills are less than enough to survive in traffic, and that the need for education continues.

You want that unavoidable complicated situation to happen after you have trained emergency braking and evasive maneuvers long enough to make them automatic (you are on your own practicing those, you don't learn those during track days).

You may be a gifted rider, but please, don't allow yourself to become overconfident while you are learning to become one with your machine and to eliminate the natural SRs (survival reactions).

"The rider is the wild card, the unpredictable and variable component in the package. And his problem is with the SRs that are triggered, nothing else." - Keith Code
it's not overconfidence when I mentioned my 1500 miles. I did it because I was annoyed with the fact that you were talking as if I just picked up a bike yesterday and decided to gun it down the road without knowing what the hell I was doing.

I classify myself as a newbie (again c my other posts you'll c a testament to that), and I don't think this label will be taken off anytime soon. I'm not that stupid to think after my long trip that I can do anything or I'm a pro. I still recognize my weaknesses every time I go for a ride, and I try to stay within the limit of my skills as much as possible..

I feel like I'm trying to convince you to concede with me with the way I ride. this was not the purpose of the thread, so I'm going to leave at that. you're right, am wrong. I'm right, you're wrong. it doesn't matter.
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Don't get cocky too soon, 1500 miles is a good weekend's spin. Come back when there's another zero on the end & you'll have a reasonable start

Learn when you can give it a good wind on & when to reign in the throttle.

Usually I behave myself in residential areas, give it around the speed limit or a bit over on larger roads & completely ignore speed limits on twisty roads or motorways. (That just means that I use my own judgement, but anything goes where I see fit, 150+ on a mate's bike on a clear stretch of poker straight good surfaced road for example, 130ish test riding a Ducati with a pro in front of me, I could keep track of anything that caused him to adjust his ride, so I was happy to push the pace above what I would do on that stretch by myself)
here's a little prayer I said every time I get on my bike.. " God please protect me, don't let me do anything stupid, or let me try to do stuff that are beyond my skill set.." I pray as such because I understand that cockiness is what will get you killed on these streets, regardless of your skills, or experience level...

so I'm not cocky. I don't think I ever will be. overconfidence is a safety hazard in my book. I mentioned the 1500 miles because I was annoyed with the guy's comment as I explained to him.
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.......I was annoyed with the fact that you were talking as if I just picked up a bike yesterday.......

I feel like I'm trying to convince you to concede with me with the way I ride......
Please, excuse me for annoying you with my presumptuous posts and for making you feel that you or I must admit something.

I may very well be wrong, as many other times.

I respect everyone's posts and your thread and I promise I will stay out of it.
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Please, excuse me for annoying you with my presumptuous posts and for making you feel that you or I must admit something.

I may very well be wrong, as many other times.

I respect everyone's posts and your thread and I promise I will stay out of it.
look man, I welcome everyone's advice, be it positive or negative. it's part of learning. I understand not everyone is going to agree with me. Even if I feel attacked and speak up, I value everyone's input.
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ummm... If you read my other posts you'll notice that I've progressed much faster than most people probably would expect in just a month and a half. I am confident in the way in which I ride in the streets whether slow or fast. I've put 1500 miles on the bike.. now that's a lot of riding if you ask me. (including a trip from Tampa to Miami).
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so just an ironic update of what i posted yesterday, i was following a cop for a couple miles and had to get over 2 lanes for my exit. Cars in both of those lanes and once a gap opened up i went over. Promptly got pulled over by said cop and he said i passed him like a bat out of hell. lol got the video if interested
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so just an ironic update of what i posted yesterday, i was following a cop for a couple miles and had to get over 2 lanes for my exit. Cars in both of those lanes and once a gap opened up i went over. Promptly got pulled over by said cop and he said i passed him like a bat out of hell. lol got the video if interested
Lol... I wanna see it.. ah ah
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Link to original page on YouTube.

it is still processing so you may or may not be able to watch it, the SUV in front of me is the cop and in heinsight i could have just went to the right behind the blue car but i didnt want to be behind that truck. And after he goes back into his car to run my stuff you can stop watching, im a lazy editor and its just me looking at the road until he gives me my stuff back and lets me go

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"speed limit" depends on the bike. my 250 is limited to 105ishMPH. but my 600 isn't limited until 145.
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so just an ironic update of what i posted yesterday, i was following a cop for a couple miles and had to get over 2 lanes for my exit. Cars in both of those lanes and once a gap opened up i went over. Promptly got pulled over by said cop and he said i passed him like a bat out of hell. lol got the video if interested

uhh, you DID speed up
you passed the cop
what you expect?

I would have filed in behind the mazda.
Seems like there was plenty of room and traffic was flowing at a good pace.

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i mean its not like i passed him going 85, was doing 70 - 73 and you cant pass someone without going faster than them
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He did say the speed limit was 55 and you were going a little faster than the cars in other lanes.

I'm gonna start yelling I'M DA BAT every time I pass somebody from now on.
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I always find I'm doing the damn speed limit or 5 under for some reason. There's times where I don't even notice I'm going 60. Luckily I have not been pulled over yet because I still need to get the bike inspected. Although here around Philly very few friends have their bikes inspected for some reason.
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The reality is that you will be behind and in front of some car or truck most of the times.

Constantly switching lanes is not the best approach, in my experience.

The car or truck next to you has much more power to sweep you away that those in front and behind you (rear ends are only 2% of all the motorcycle's accidents).

You have control over the car in front, keeping distance and away from the center of the lane (from where debris will suddenly come to you).

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Speed up or slowdown as needed to stay away from blind spots and never idle next to a car/truck, even if it is far from your side.

During the first months of riding, the newbie is the greatest danger to himself.

She/he is developing skills that are non-natural, and that takes time, more for some, less for others.

After the rider learns the basic skills, immediately becomes overconfident, speeds up and lowers the guard.

It always takes a dangerous or complicated situation to trigger one or more survival reactions and to make that rider wake up to the realm that her/his basic skills are less than enough to survive in traffic, and that the need for education continues.

You want that unavoidable complicated situation to happen after you have trained emergency braking and evasive maneuvers long enough to make them automatic (you are on your own practicing those, you don't learn those during track days).

You may be a gifted rider, but please, don't allow yourself to become overconfident while you are learning to become one with your machine and to eliminate the natural SRs (survival reactions).

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I go no more than 10 over at the highway because that's about the average speed everyone drives, in the city I go no over 5 because is easier for a cop to pull me over.
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Me: Depends mostly on whether I'm alone on the road. Speed of traffic for the most part. Alone, typically +5 to +10…. which is generally the speed of traffic anyway. If I'm truly alone on the highway, i might wind it up a bit… at 80+ I start to get worried about the police. I never open it up on side streets and definitely not in quiet neighborhoods.

Jiggles: Depends mostly on whether *crash*

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Old March 20th, 2013, 01:20 AM   #74
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highest ive gone is 90-100. majority of the time im goin 50.
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5-10 over or slightly faster then the flow of traffic.
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just slightly faster than traffic. reasoning: reduces the risk of being rear-ended and keeps you out of people's blind spots since you are moving through them. I am also an offensive-defensive rider/driver.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 01:27 PM   #78
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Usually 10 - 20 mph over but sometimes I'm just cruising at normal speeds.
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