bike wont start. fuse box is buzzing

rabies · October 5th, 2012, 02:03 PM

im stuck in some other city in the cold :/

i turn the key and hit the start button. and the fuse box buzzes.
i put my hand on the fuses n it buzzs right on the 30a fuse.
its not blown n i switched it with another.
lights come on and battery is somewhat new.
not sure what happened obviosuly. i rode it here then this

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 02:08 PM

sounds like the starter is not connected... try wiggling the wire going to the starter... it might be hard to get to it.

if you are stuck you might try bump starting it... put it in 3rd with the key on and kill switch on, push with clutch in, hop on and let the clutch out quickly but smoothely

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 02:38 PM

if you hear the relay click you know the problem is either the relay, the battery, or the starter.

rabies · October 5th, 2012, 03:50 PM

thumper64 came to the rescue with another battery and multimeter.
meter told me the battery was givin 13v
the other day i put a car charger on the battery. he said that could have killed the amprage of it.
yup.
switched out the battery, started right up

thumper64 · October 5th, 2012, 04:42 PM

Lesson of the day, use a motorcycle battery charger for motorcycle and ATV batteries. That's the only explanation, something inside the battery went wrong after that since the battery was supposed to be fairly new. Normally I would use a load tester since it tells you more about the batteries condition, however I don't know if a car battery tester would work on a bike battery. The battery had like 13.5 volts, which we both thought was enough. A load tester probably would have indicated something wrong.

alex.s · October 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM

you're lucky the battery didn't catch fire on that charger

rabies · October 5th, 2012, 09:09 PM

that would hav actualy been cool..jus sayn

Motofool · October 6th, 2012, 07:59 AM

Copied from http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...surface_charge

"During use, and especially on overcharge, the water in the electrolyte splits into hydrogen and oxygen. The battery begins to gas, which results in water loss. In flooded batteries, water can be added but in sealed batteries, water loss leads to an eventual dry-out and decline in capacity. Water loss from a sealed unit can eventually cause disintegration of the separator. The initial stages of dry-out can go undetected and a drop in capacity may not be immediately evident."

rabies · October 6th, 2012, 08:26 AM

can anyone tell me what this relay is for. and these 2 connectrs that hav been swingin since i got the bike

choneofakind · October 6th, 2012, 08:38 AM

Looks like the turn signal relay.

I can't really tell from that picture, but it's on the right side right underneath the curvy part of the seat, has 2 orange wires, and a 2-pin connector right? If so, that's the turn signal relay.

rabies · October 6th, 2012, 08:47 AM

yessir thank u

thumper64 · October 6th, 2012, 01:09 PM

Also, what are the two female spade connectors by the fuse box? There's also two up by the headlight. We both have these just dangling and neither of us have any idea what they're for. Special wiring for JDM grip warmers?

Motofool · October 6th, 2012, 01:12 PM

They are 12 v accessory plugs (always hot !!)

http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_ar...to_anything%3F

rabies · October 6th, 2012, 03:40 PM

i actualy jus opened up all the wiring today and deleted them. along with the turn signal wiring

October 5th, 2012, 02:03 PM	#1
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	bike wont start. fuse box is buzzing im stuck in some other city in the cold :/ i turn the key and hit the start button. and the fuse box buzzes. i put my hand on the fuses n it buzzs right on the 30a fuse. its not blown n i switched it with another. lights come on and battery is somewhat new. not sure what happened obviosuly. i rode it here then this __________________________________________________ The King

October 5th, 2012, 02:08 PM	#2
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	sounds like the starter is not connected... try wiggling the wire going to the starter... it might be hard to get to it. if you are stuck you might try bump starting it... put it in 3rd with the key on and kill switch on, push with clutch in, hop on and let the clutch out quickly but smoothely __________________________________________________

October 5th, 2012, 02:38 PM	#3
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	if you hear the relay click you know the problem is either the relay, the battery, or the starter. __________________________________________________

October 5th, 2012, 03:50 PM	#4
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	thumper64 came to the rescue with another battery and multimeter. meter told me the battery was givin 13v the other day i put a car charger on the battery. he said that could have killed the amprage of it. yup. switched out the battery, started right up __________________________________________________ The King

October 5th, 2012, 04:42 PM	#5
thumper64 ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Quad Cities Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 102	Lesson of the day, use a motorcycle battery charger for motorcycle and ATV batteries. That's the only explanation, something inside the battery went wrong after that since the battery was supposed to be fairly new. Normally I would use a load tester since it tells you more about the batteries condition, however I don't know if a car battery tester would work on a bike battery. The battery had like 13.5 volts, which we both thought was enough. A load tester probably would have indicated something wrong. __________________________________________________ Motorcycle noob, feel free to ignore me.

October 5th, 2012, 04:47 PM	#6
alex.s wat Name: wat Location: tustin/long beach Join Date: Sep 2009 Motorcycle(s): wat Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 5 MOTM - Oct '12, Feb '14	you're lucky the battery didn't catch fire on that charger __________________________________________________

October 5th, 2012, 09:09 PM	#7
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	that would hav actualy been cool..jus sayn __________________________________________________ The King

October 6th, 2012, 07:59 AM	#8
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	Copied from http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...surface_charge "During use, and especially on overcharge, the water in the electrolyte splits into hydrogen and oxygen. The battery begins to gas, which results in water loss. In flooded batteries, water can be added but in sealed batteries, water loss leads to an eventual dry-out and decline in capacity. Water loss from a sealed unit can eventually cause disintegration of the separator. The initial stages of dry-out can go undetected and a drop in capacity may not be immediately evident." __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

October 6th, 2012, 08:26 AM	#9
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	can anyone tell me what this relay is for. and these 2 connectrs that hav been swingin since i got the bike __________________________________________________ The King

October 6th, 2012, 08:38 AM	#10
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	Looks like the turn signal relay. I can't really tell from that picture, but it's on the right side right underneath the curvy part of the seat, has 2 orange wires, and a 2-pin connector right? If so, that's the turn signal relay.

October 6th, 2012, 08:47 AM	#11
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	yessir thank u __________________________________________________ The King

October 6th, 2012, 01:09 PM	#12
thumper64 ninjette.org member Name: Tim Location: Quad Cities Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Ninja 250 Posts: 102	Also, what are the two female spade connectors by the fuse box? There's also two up by the headlight. We both have these just dangling and neither of us have any idea what they're for. Special wiring for JDM grip warmers? __________________________________________________ Motorcycle noob, feel free to ignore me.

October 6th, 2012, 01:12 PM	#13
Motofool Daily Ninjette rider Name: Hernan Location: Florida Join Date: Mar 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2007 Ninja 250 Posts: A lot. MOTY - 2016, MOTM - Dec '12, Jan '14, Jan '15, May '16	They are 12 v accessory plugs (always hot !!) http://faq.ninja250.org/wiki/What_ar...to_anything%3F __________________________________________________ *Motofool* *.................................Never ride faster than your guardian angel can fly* "Mankind is composed of two sorts of men — those who love and create, and those who hate and destroy. Love is the bond between men, the way to teach and the center of the world." - José Martí

October 6th, 2012, 03:40 PM	#14
rabies time is running out.... Name: jesse Location: the land of corn Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): pregen ninjari Posts: 412 Blog Entries: 3	i actualy jus opened up all the wiring today and deleted them. along with the turn signal wiring __________________________________________________ The King

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