Don't get the 300 as a trip bike - Page 2

adouglas · April 25th, 2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

Plan is not the same as ride. take a 1000 mile trip then get back to us. It was not really that bad on a 600 I had the power to do 130+ so it take me less time.

Seriously? 130 on public roads?

How fast do you need to go? Are you actually suggesting that your 300 couldn't break the speed limit in a headwind?

Please. Give us a break. I will refrain from commenting on the… um… wisdom of doing 130 on public roads.

Look, I do have experience with this. Right after I bought my newgen in 2009 I did a 2500 mile tour. Consider this "getting back to you" about that experience.

I was not uncomfortable.

I was not unhappy with its performance. I was never unable to make a pass when I needed to and I routinely rode at or above the pace of traffic.

In short, I never did figure out why people say you can't tour on this bike. It worked just fine for me.

Why? Simple.

I didn't expect it to be able to travel at 130 mph and I for friggin sure didn't subject myself to 13 hours in the saddle. That's ridiculous.

I did 400 mile days. That was a nice target and it kept me from getting grumpy. If I wanted to get there sooner I would NOT have ridden my bike, I would have traveled by air. The point is the ride, not the destination.

If you spend too much time in the saddle -- regardless of bike -- you're not having fun. You're getting tired and sore. That makes you unsafe because you're fatigued and distracted. Add to that the fact that you're willing to go 130 to get there quicker and it sounds like an accident waiting to happen to me.

Just my $0.02.

vman1313 · April 25th, 2013, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thisisbenji

I mean 13 hours on a bike? That'd suck in a car.

My thoughts exactly! It sucks in a plane and you got pillows, a movie, food, and I am still miserable...HAHAHAHA!

fishdip · April 25th, 2013, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thisisbenji

Sounds like someone needs to harden the f*ck up. j/k. In all honestly what did you expect? I mean 13 hours on a bike? That'd suck in a car.

I did the same trip 3 weeks ago in my truck only stopping for gas I did it in 20h at 55mph the hole time it was very nice.

caps · April 25th, 2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

and I decided to get a newer zx-14 do a few mods like hard saddle bags bigger wind screen and a really nice seat.

You're going to bitch about that too. Get a touring bike for touring.

caps · April 25th, 2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

I also did 2,300 mile trip on a 50cc moped.

Then sack up and quit bitching

lgk · April 25th, 2013, 05:57 PM

Have done 10 hr trips on my 250, my leg got a little cramped but that was due to my rearsets.

ninjamunky85 · April 25th, 2013, 06:02 PM

I think you want one of these.

fishdip · April 25th, 2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjamunky85

I think you want one of these.

Yep that is the one I have been looking at.

Goom · April 25th, 2013, 06:32 PM

I'm not here to be a jerk about this, but riding a 250 requires me to defend the small displacement market on a regular basis. I like to remind everyone that large displacement bikes weren't always the norm. A "big supersport" was a 750cc pumping out a whopping 70-ish horsepower. There were plenty of smaller bikes roaming the streets, and their pilots were tough as nails. Guys would ride these things until their hands bled. They weren't afraid to take off on a little bike and ride coast-to-coast. No heated gear, no AAA, no cellphones, just brass balls and a sense of adventure.

Fast forward to the present. Your bike is like a space shuttle compared to those old monsters. It is far more advanced than anything that was on the street during the pioneering days of motorcycling. Add to this the fact that roads and gear have greatly improved over the years, and you are all out of excuses.

Now, don't get me wrong. I feel you. Motorcycles have come a long way, and that is a great thing. Bikes are now built with specific purposes in mind. Keep that in mind when bike shopping. If you want to take your bike on long trips, either buy a bike made for it, or nut up and do it the old fashioned way.

fishdip · April 25th, 2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goom

I'm not here to be a jerk about this, but riding a 250 requires me to defend the small displacement market on a regular basis. I like to remind everyone that large displacement bikes weren't always the norm. A "big supersport" was a 750cc pumping out a whopping 70-ish horsepower. There were plenty of smaller bikes roaming the streets, and their pilots were tough as nails. Guys would ride these things until their hands bled. They weren't afraid to take off on a little bike and ride coast-to-coast. No heated gear, no AAA, no cellphones, just brass balls and a sense of adventure.

Fast forward to the present. Your bike is like a space shuttle compared to those old monsters. It is far more advanced than anything that was on the street during the pioneering days of motorcycling. Add to this the fact that roads and gear have greatly improved over the years, and you are all out of excuses.

Now, don't get me wrong. I feel you. Motorcycles have come a long way, and that is a great thing. Bikes are now built with specific purposes in mind. Keep that in mind when bike shopping. If you want to take your bike on long trips, either buy a bike made for it, or nut up and do it the old fashioned way.

Every one thinks I am bashing little bike I am bashing the 300. I love the little 250 I got for my wife so much so that I have done over 5k on it and only hit 2k after the 900 mile trip to az on the 300. I think they did the older 250 ninja very well and wish I had gotten a few new ones for the same price as the new 600rr I got at the same time.

Jiggles · April 25th, 2013, 08:09 PM

wut

Goom · April 25th, 2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

Every one thinks I am bashing little bike I am bashing the 300. I love the little 250 I got for my wife so much so that I have done over 5k on it and only hit 2k after the 900 mile trip to az on the 300. I think they did the older 250 ninja very well and wish I had gotten a few new ones for the same price as the new 600rr I got at the same time.

Fair enough. Given the option, I'd take the 250. I got to demo a 300, and I honestly didn't fall in love with it like I had hoped. To be fair though, I haven't had a good enough amount of seat time on the 300 to really decide how I feel about it.

Xoulrath · April 25th, 2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigerpaw

most people don't ride ANY bike 13 hrs.

I would rock a Gold Wing for 13 hours no problem. Those damn things are basically like two-wheeled recliners.

choneofakind · April 25th, 2013, 09:33 PM

I would rock a Connie.

hexstylee · April 25th, 2013, 10:00 PM

If Harry and Lloyd can do a cross country on a moped you can do it on a 300 suck it.

cry me a river? lol xD

NathanUc · April 25th, 2013, 10:30 PM

Hey guys, don't get a ZX6R if you want help your friend move... guys seriously guys...

fishdip · May 13th, 2013, 09:17 AM

Well the good news is I sold the 300 I was using as a street bike. I still have the one I will be riding on the track but I am moving up to a concourse-14

LNasty · May 13th, 2013, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xSean13

Dude you beat me to it....hahahahahahahahaha

TheDementedDrummer · May 13th, 2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

Well the good news is I sold the 300 I was using as a street bike. I still have the one I will be riding on the track but I am moving up to a concourse-14

Pics or it didn't happen

Jiggles · May 13th, 2013, 10:05 AM

Next thread, do not get the concours 14 as a dedicated twisty bike

fishdip · May 13th, 2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

Next thread, do not get the concours 14 as a dedicated twisty bike

Funny you bring this up as a few weeks back I went on a group ride and one of the guys had a concours 14 and it was kicking ass in the twisty parts.

Jiggles · May 13th, 2013, 10:26 AM

I have a large shaft

drive bike too but guess which bike I take to the twisties and track

ai4px · May 13th, 2013, 10:48 AM

My 6-fiddy got a lot more tolerable once I got the seat spencerized and installed kury black ISO grips.

fishdip · May 13th, 2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

I have a large shaft

drive bike too but guess which bike I take to the twisties and track

This is why I am keeping the other 300 for track days. I will also keep the 250 for in town boring rides.

Jiggles · May 13th, 2013, 02:53 PM

Omg bro, we are like twins

RedPepper64 · May 14th, 2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

Well the good news is I sold the 300 I was using as a street bike. I still have the one I will be riding on the track but I am moving up to a concourse-14

Ummm just how many bikes do you have??

astricklin · May 14th, 2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedPepper64

Ummm just how many bikes do you have??

ninjamunky85 · May 14th, 2013, 03:12 PM

The one with the most toys wins!...

Havok · May 14th, 2013, 07:18 PM

I am shocked that a low displacement budget bike sucked at touring. WTF Kawasaki! Its not like you make a 650r that's good for moderate day trips or a ninja 1000 or a Concourse 1400.

Come on man seriously, of course its not a good bike for long trips. Its small, its cramped and its under powered. I wouldn't want to do trips like that on a SS either. Most people who buy a bike like this don't know what they are going to like the most out of riding. The 300 can do it but if you find you want to take lots of long trips your going to get a bike better suited to the task. Its not a mark against the bike its just not what its designed for.

tnr4 · May 14th, 2013, 08:42 PM

Just got back from a 1300 mile trip on the 300. It's not a touring bike for sure, but had a great time and it did everything it needed to. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

250rr · May 15th, 2013, 01:18 PM

My 250 was uncomfortable on trips. Hence, I am a man for doing it anyway.

KawiKid860 · May 15th, 2013, 02:03 PM

So I guess OP was expecting the 50cc bump in engine size to = the Ninja 250 transforming into something touring worthy? This thread is retarded.

astricklin · May 15th, 2013, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KawiKid860

This thread is retarded.

fishdip · May 20th, 2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KawiKid860

So I guess OP was expecting the 50cc bump in engine size to = the Ninja 250 transforming into something touring worthy? This thread is retarded.

So i guess your retarded and unable to read. If you look at my other post I talk about my love for the old 250. The old 250 was a true do it all bike the half ass work they did to make the 300 is sad.

Alex · May 20th, 2013, 09:35 AM

Please dial it down foks; the T.O.S. that you've each agreed to is quite clear (link in my sig).

joe_5700 · May 30th, 2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

So i guess your retarded and unable to read. If you look at my other post I talk about my love for the old 250. The old 250 was a true do it all bike the half ass work they did to make the 300 is sad.

Ok Fishdip, you rip the 300, but you say you have purchased two of them? Is this correct? What does the 250 do that the 300 cannot? Please explain. How was the 250 more comfortable on long rides?

Jiggles · May 30th, 2013, 01:08 PM

Aside from the crappy throttle, the 300 is all around better than the 250, I still prefer my 250 though.

fishdip · May 30th, 2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by joe_5700

Ok Fishdip, you rip the 300, but you say you have purchased two of them? Is this correct? What does the 250 do that the 300 cannot? Please explain. How was the 250 more comfortable on long rides?

Yep I got 2 of them. Why you ask I wanted to get in to racing and another member (peanut) who after seeing some of his runs on the track and talking to him said the 300 is a better bike for the track and it is. Now the bigest thing the 250 is doing better then the 300 is staying togeather. I went on a ride with another 300 owner and it was sad how much the farings don't stay in place. Or how rusted my pipe got in such a short time and to top off the other fact his bike keept dieing at stop lights. It's better in every way but the stock head lights

Jiggles · May 30th, 2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fishdip

It's better in every way but the stock head lights

The 250 or the 300?

Both 250s I've owned and the 300 seem to have the left side fairing pop out just a bit from the inner sort of dash fairing. Really weird that the pipe is rusting, mine is too. I sprayed some anti rusting jizz on it and I'll probably paint it all black.

My 300 has stopped dieing completely whereas 2 weeks ago it died at every stop, no idea what caused that change.

adouglas · May 30th, 2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggles

My 300 has stopped dieing completely whereas 2 weeks ago it died at every stop, no idea what caused that change.

It got over the fear that you'd crash it at any moment.

April 25th, 2013, 05:57 PM	#46
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April 25th, 2013, 06:02 PM	#47
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April 25th, 2013, 08:09 PM	#51
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May 13th, 2013, 09:17 AM	#57
fishdip ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Fish Location: co Join Date: Apr 2013 Motorcycle(s): 250/300 Posts: A lot.	Well the good news is I sold the 300 I was using as a street bike. I still have the one I will be riding on the track but I am moving up to a concourse-14 __________________________________________________ Hey Unregistered never go faster than your brakes can be applied...

April 25th, 2013, 06:32 PM	#49
Goom ninjette.org guru Name: Eric Location: Concord, NC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 1976 CB550 Cafe, 2011 Ninja 250, 1999 Honda CR125 Posts: 264	I'm not here to be a jerk about this, but riding a 250 requires me to defend the small displacement market on a regular basis. I like to remind everyone that large displacement bikes weren't always the norm. A "big supersport" was a 750cc pumping out a whopping 70-ish horsepower. There were plenty of smaller bikes roaming the streets, and their pilots were tough as nails. Guys would ride these things until their hands bled. They weren't afraid to take off on a little bike and ride coast-to-coast. No heated gear, no AAA, no cellphones, just brass balls and a sense of adventure. Fast forward to the present. Your bike is like a space shuttle compared to those old monsters. It is far more advanced than anything that was on the street during the pioneering days of motorcycling. Add to this the fact that roads and gear have greatly improved over the years, and you are all out of excuses. Now, don't get me wrong. I feel you. Motorcycles have come a long way, and that is a great thing. Bikes are now built with specific purposes in mind. Keep that in mind when bike shopping. If you want to take your bike on long trips, either buy a bike made for it, or nut up and do it the old fashioned way.

April 25th, 2013, 09:33 PM	#54
choneofakind ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: . Location: . Join Date: Feb 2011 Motorcycle(s): . Posts: Too much. MOTM - Feb '13, Feb '14	I would rock a Connie.

April 25th, 2013, 10:00 PM	#55
hexstylee ninjette.org member Name: Chris Location: los angeles Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): 2013 636, 2011 250R Posts: 70	If Harry and Lloyd can do a cross country on a moped you can do it on a 300 suck it. cry me a river? lol xD

May 13th, 2013, 10:05 AM	#60
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Next thread, do not get the concours 14 as a dedicated twisty bike __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

May 13th, 2013, 10:26 AM	#62
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	I have a large shaft drive bike too but guess which bike I take to the twisties and track __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

May 13th, 2013, 10:48 AM	#63
ai4px ninjette.org sage Name: Wes Location: Sumter SC Join Date: Apr 2012 Motorcycle(s): 650r 2009 Vulcan 800 2005 Posts: 557	My 6-fiddy got a lot more tolerable once I got the seat spencerized and installed kury black ISO grips. __________________________________________________ It's all about the curves. If you ride, you understand. If you have a stick skinny g/f and ride, you're 1/2 way there.

May 13th, 2013, 02:53 PM	#65
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Omg bro, we are like twins __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

May 14th, 2013, 03:12 PM	#68
ninjamunky85 Que Buenos Son!!! Name: Ryan Location: Grovetucky, OH Join Date: Jun 2012 Motorcycle(s): Aprilia Shiver 750, Husaberg FE 450, Ninja 300 (sold), xr100 Posts: A lot. MOTM - Nov '14	The one with the most toys wins!... __________________________________________________ Don't do something because it's easy,.. Do it because it's not! If you aren't going forward, then you're falling behind. "Drive it like you stole it"!!!

May 14th, 2013, 07:18 PM	#69
Havok Internet Slut Name: Jeff Location: L.A. Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): 04 FZ1, 07 FZ6 Posts: A lot.	I am shocked that a low displacement budget bike sucked at touring. WTF Kawasaki! Its not like you make a 650r that's good for moderate day trips or a ninja 1000 or a Concourse 1400. Come on man seriously, of course its not a good bike for long trips. Its small, its cramped and its under powered. I wouldn't want to do trips like that on a SS either. Most people who buy a bike like this don't know what they are going to like the most out of riding. The 300 can do it but if you find you want to take lots of long trips your going to get a bike better suited to the task. Its not a mark against the bike its just not what its designed for.
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May 14th, 2013, 08:42 PM	#70
tnr4 ninjette.org sage Name: Travis Location: Washington, DC Join Date: Sep 2012 Motorcycle(s): Suzuki GSX650F! Past: Kawasaki Ninja 300 (Sold); Triumph Street Triple (Sold); Kawasaki Ninja 250 (Sold) Posts: 664	Just got back from a 1300 mile trip on the 300. It's not a touring bike for sure, but had a great time and it did everything it needed to. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

May 15th, 2013, 01:18 PM	#71
250rr ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Mark Location: Portland Join Date: Sep 2010 Motorcycle(s): Cheap Italian Suit. Otherwise known as Dew Kitty Posts: A lot.	My 250 was uncomfortable on trips. Hence, I am a man for doing it anyway.

May 15th, 2013, 02:03 PM	#72
KawiKid860 ninjette.org certified postwhore Name: Murphey Location: Eastern Washington Join Date: Apr 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2002 Honda 919, 2004 Ninja 500R NAKED Posts: A lot.	So I guess OP was expecting the 50cc bump in engine size to = the Ninja 250 transforming into something touring worthy? This thread is retarded.

May 20th, 2013, 09:35 AM	#75
Alex ninjette.org dude Name: 1 guess :-) Location: SF Bay Area Join Date: Jun 2008 Motorcycle(s): '13 Ninja 300 (white, the fastest color!), '13 R1200RT, '14 CRF250L, '12 TT-R125LE Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 7	Please dial it down foks; the T.O.S. that you've each agreed to is quite clear (link in my sig). __________________________________________________ Montgomery Street Motorcycle Club / cal24.com / crf250l.org / ninjette.org ninjette.org Terms of Service Shopping for motorcycle parts or equipment? Come here first. The friendliest Ninja 250R/300/400 forum on the internet! (especially Unregistered)

May 30th, 2013, 01:08 PM	#77
Jiggles Jigglin' your Jiglets Name: Sean Location: San Jose, Ca Join Date: Jun 2011 Motorcycle(s): 2009 K1300S, 2013 Ninja 300, 2011 Ninja 250R, Faster than Unregistered's ninjette Posts: Too much. Blog Entries: 1 MOTM - Apr '13	Aside from the crappy throttle, the 300 is all around better than the 250, I still prefer my 250 though. __________________________________________________ If the Ninja 250 doesn't have enough power for you, then you don't know how to ride it. AFM #676 Supersports are for n00bs

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