[motorcycle.com] - 2017 Honda CBR250RR Announced

[Ninjette Newsbot]

Honda‘s Indonesian subsidiary Astra Honda announced the new CBR250RR, the production version of the Light Weight Sports Concept showcased last year at the Tokyo Motor Show. The double-R is a significant step up from the CBR250R, offering aggressive styling, an all-new Twin-cylinder engine, throttle-by-wire, selectable engine modes and other features usually expected from larger-displacement sportbikes.



At the moment, the CBR250RR has only been confirmed for Indonesia and Japan; Honda will likely introduce a larger-displacement version for western markets to compete against models like Yamaha‘s YZF-R3 and KTM‘s 390 Duke.

The CBR250RR is powered by a newly developed water-cooled four-stroke parallel-Twin. No performance figures are available yet, but Honda says it is aiming for class-leading performance. A throttle-by-wire system allows for three selectable power modes to suit different needs.



The chassis is comprised of a steel truss frame with an asymmetric aluminum swingarm design with the right side shaped so the exhaust can be positioned closer to the center line, allowing for a slimmer shape and more lean angle. The swingarm is hooked up to a Pro-link monoshock with five-step preload adjustability. Up front, the CBR250RR uses an upside-down fork.

A twin-piston Nissin caliper is paired with the single 310mm front disc while a single-piston caliper is fitted to the 240 mm rear rotor. ABS is optional, at least for the Indonesian market.



The CBR250RR’s face is a menacing grimace that is a dramatic departure from the CBR250R’s relatively friendly visage. The dual LED headlights appears to match the design patent that we first uncovered in April. The sharp lines continue through the sculpted 3.8-gallon fuel tank design and back towards the sharp tail.

The 2017 Honda CBR250RR is offered in three colors: Anchor Graymetallic, Honda Racing Red and Mat Gunpowder Black Metallic.



2017 Honda CBR250RR SpecificationsEngine Type4-stroke, 8-valve, parallel-Twin cylinderDisplacement249.7 ccCooling SystemLiquid cooled with auto electric fanFuel Supply SystemPGM-FIThrottle SystemThrottle-by-wire system with accelerator position sensorBore x Stroke62.0 x 41.4 mmCompression Ratio11.5 : 1Transmission ManualManual, 6-speedStarting SystemElectric starterClutch SystemMultiplate wet clutch with coil springOil Capacity0.5 gallonsFrame TypeTruss FrameFront BrakeHydraulic disc, dual piston (STD Type & ABS Type)Rear BrakeHydraulic disc, single piston (STD Type & ABS Type)Front SuspensionInverted telescopic front suspensionRear SuspensionAluminum swing arm (5-way adjustable mono suspension with Pro-Link system)Front Tire Size110/70 – 17 54S (tubeless)Rear Tire Size140/70 – 17 66S (tubeless)Length81.1 inchesWidth28.5 inchesHeight43.2 inchesWheel Base54.7 inchesGround Clearance5.7 inchesSeat Height31.1 inchesFuel Tank Capacity3.8 gallons2017 Honda CBR250RR Announced appeared first on Motorcycle.com.



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[Alex]

Interesting.

[kdogg2077]

They have my attention.

[CC Cowboy]

I wonder if it's fast in the corners?

[choneofakind]

Power modes, huh? Interesting. Seems like they should name them "newb" and "intense"

Interested to see how they do this for a US model, potentially. I'm laughing that the engine bore and stroke are so similar to the newgen 250. Wonder if that was on purpose

[nickjpass]

Honda has my attention.

[Snake]

I'm still not comfortable with throttle by wire in cars and trucks so throttle by wire in a bike would be hard to get used to.

[broken neck]

Nice little motorcycle...

I like it a lot in its red delivery...

I don't know if Suzuki will catch the train with something more than the GW250...

[kdogg2077]

Originally Posted by broken neck

Nice little motorcycle...

I like it a lot in its red delivery...

I don't know if Suzuki will catch the train with something more than the GW250...

I think Suzuki is a lost cause but at least they fixed the SV650 after that mistake they called the Gladius.

[Abu_Mishary]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Power modes, huh? Interesting. Seems like they should name them "newb" and "intense"

Interested to see how they do this for a US model, potentially. I'm laughing that the engine bore and stroke are so similar to the newgen 250. Wonder if that was on purpose

True indeed. I remember reading it somewhere (might be released by Boon Siew Honda Malaysia) that Honda will concentrate on the single piston engine for their quarter litre as it was the best engine for the category.

But I am more intrigued if the USD fork could reply the OEM on the new gens. Hopefully it would. Starting to foresee an upgrade for mine!

[AwDang]

Originally Posted by Ninjette Newsbot

The CBR250RR is powered by a newly developed water-cooled four-stroke parallel-Twin. No performance figures are available yet, but Honda says it is aiming for class-leading performance. A throttle-by-wire system allows for three selectable power modes to suit different needs.

....in Honda fashion, they'll fall just short of the mark. Sadly I have little faith in Honda being able to producing anything the stirs the soul.

[Sirref]

I'm giving honda a shot here, I'll try the bike but I'm not sold on it just yet. At this rate the new kawasaki 300 will be coming soon which has me a bit more interested in that as an option

not to mention the sv650 has been stirring my soul wanting me to get a few of them for track and street use so it has stiff competition for my $$$

[InvisiBill]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Interested to see how they do this for a US model, potentially.

This. Keep in mind that this version is in a market not saturated with huge supersports. I wonder how much of a mini-supersport this will still be when it gets to the US. We may end up with the same stripped-down, budget, entry-level bike we're used to getting, but with new plastic and LED headlights.

This looks like a neat little bike, but I'm worried that price and "It's a beginner bike" will win out on the US model.

[Sirref]

Originally Posted by InvisiBill

This. Keep in mind that this version is in a market not saturated with huge supersports. I wonder how much of a mini-supersport this will still be when it gets to the US. We may end up with the same stripped-down, budget, entry-level bike we're used to getting, but with new plastic and LED headlights.

This looks like a neat little bike, but I'm worried that price and "It's a beginner bike" will win out on the US model.

This is entirely possible, I do hope for it to not be the case though seeing as there is already a budget option on the table from honda

[Brother Michigan]

I have a serious case of 250cc 4-cylinder blue balls now...

[AwDang]

Originally Posted by Brother Michigan

I have a serious case of 250cc 4-cylinder blue balls now...

Unless major racing body's or governments have rule changes. i think those days are long past.

[adouglas]

Originally Posted by InvisiBill

This. Keep in mind that this version is in a market not saturated with huge supersports. I wonder how much of a mini-supersport this will still be when it gets to the US. We may end up with the same stripped-down, budget, entry-level bike we're used to getting, but with new plastic and LED headlights.

This looks like a neat little bike, but I'm worried that price and "It's a beginner bike" will win out on the US model.

This segement as a whole has never truly been about mini-supersports. It's about sporty, entry-level bikes with street-friendly ergos and geometry. That's the formula Kawasaki has followed with the Ninjette since day one, and it's the formula that all of its competitors are also following.

The best you can reasonably hope for is what the Ninjette delivers: A budget street machine that's a hoot when you ride it really hard.

This bike isn't a mini-supersport to begin with, so there's nothing to "strip."

To me, a real supersport has a few defining characteristics:
- Aggressive geometry
- Aggressive ergonomics
- Stiff, aluminum perimeter frame
- Fully adjustible suspension, front and rear
- Serious brakes

A few other telltales, like actual clip-ons vs. fixed bars that kind of look like clip-ons, also come to mind.

This bike, just like the Ninjette, R3, RC390 and existing CBR300, lacks all of these. It's just another in the field.

Having said that, I do like the looks a lot and the ergos appear to be maybe just a tiny bit more aggressive than the norm.

[csmith12]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Power modes, huh? Interesting. Seems like they should name them "newb" and "intense"

Modes: NTN (Next to none), LIL (Lil' bit), ASG (All she's got)

[tgold]

Originally Posted by choneofakind

Power modes, huh? Interesting. Seems like they should name them "newb" and "intense"

Interested to see how they do this for a US model, potentially. I'm laughing that the engine bore and stroke are so similar to the newgen 250. Wonder if that was on purpose

More like newb level one and newb level two. There is nothing intense about a 250 twin like the CBR or Ninja. Just sayin'.


Oh yeah.... Dibs on the first salvage CBR250RR for a racebike!

[tgold]

Originally Posted by AwDang

Unless major racing body's or governments have rule changes. i think those days are long past.

I would still like to find an old FZR250R to flog on the track. 16,000 rpm redline baby!

[AwDang]

Originally Posted by tgold

There is nothing intense about a 250 twin like the CBR or Ninja. Just sayin'.

You should try it in the upper 3 gears and wot.....Just say'n

[tgold]

Originally Posted by AwDang

You should try it in the upper 3 gears and wot.....Just say'n

I have. And I was drumming my fingers on the gas tank while waiting for the next corner to come up

[choneofakind]

Originally Posted by tgold

There is nothing intense about a 250 twin like the CBR or Ninja. Just sayin'.

Oh contraire, sir!

It goes a little something like this:
(start at 1:39 unless you like Teen Titans GO!)

Link to original page on YouTube.